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Guy Perfect Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Though all things considered, there are better things to think about than a black hole that doesn't influence our everyday lives. And if ever it does, it's not like we'll be able to do anything about it, so be productive! Make a difference in someone's life!
/public service announcement |
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Stalle Red Goomba Since: 11-20-06 From: Atlanta, GA Last post: 6376 days Last view: 6376 days |
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Heh, that's a very narrow-minded way of thinking.. joking or not..
Theoretical maths effect lives every day.. Hiroshima is the best example of that I can think of. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Posting on a message board completely invalidates your point!
YOU LOSE! WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Dude, don't you know the only valid and worthwhile activities are personally tending to the sick and hungry, or posting on the internet? | |||
Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Well, technically if there is enough mass in a certain area, a black hole is a certainty. Physics dictates that if you compress any amount of matter into a small enough volume you will create a black hole, you just have to use enough force. The natural force that creates black holes is gravity. I'm unsure how they've proven that a supermasive black hole exists in the centre of our galaxy, but it seems logical that there is a sufficient mass at the centre to capture the rest of the stars in the galaxy in it's gravitational field. With the amount of stars at the centre of our galaxy, it's reasonable to suggest that if there is a single object at the centre, it's mass is more than high enough to reach critical mass.
If our galaxy has existed for many millions of years, perhaps it's safe to assume that whatever body at the centre of our galaxy has also sustained an equilibrium for that time? I would guess that the supermassive black hole isn't feeling too hungry at this time. (edited by Kasumi-Astra on 11-27-06 09:31 PM) |
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Stalle Red Goomba Since: 11-20-06 From: Atlanta, GA Last post: 6376 days Last view: 6376 days |
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As I said, current techniques are judging speed as a result of gravity from said black hole.
The first galaxy we used this technique on was Andromeda. |
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Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Doesn't it have something to do with objects that for some reason have broken with a natural orbit in our galaxy, and have been drawn towards the centre? If they accelerate to the point of the speed of light and are flung out again in a highly eliptical orbit, then this suggests a single, super-dense object at the centre of our galaxy, instead of a large group of stars?
I guess that utterly disproves Star Trek V. Stupid Shatner. What I'd take away from this thread is that if Google doesn't have the answer, Wikipedia doesn't have the answer, and we don't have the answer, then it's a fair bet that no-one does (edited by Kasumi-Astra on 11-27-06 09:43 PM) |
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Stalle Red Goomba Since: 11-20-06 From: Atlanta, GA Last post: 6376 days Last view: 6376 days |
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Shatner IS the real slim shady.. all you other slim shadys.. are just imitating.
*cough* Sorry. |
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Lakithunder Darknut Since: 09-18-06 From: The Wind Fish's Dream Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Stalle He ain't slim, dawg, he is faaaat... Good rap song though...in a way.... |
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Stalle Red Goomba Since: 11-20-06 From: Atlanta, GA Last post: 6376 days Last view: 6376 days |
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Oh come on, It's a Futurama reference. | |||
FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra Actually it's not really fair at all, there's plenty of information out there not to be seen on the Internet. |
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Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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But the likelihood of him finding it is looking pretty bad | |||
Jilkon Cappy Since: 11-27-05 From: Teh Sweden Last post: 6393 days Last view: 6342 days |
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Originally posted by TanksOriginally posted by Stalle It has already been proven over and over again that global warming exists and we're in deep shit. It's just that the global companies would much rather make money than save the planet, thus they lobby against the entire idea. As for the black hole deal, it kinda reminds me of Gunbuster. Watch that, it has a nice twist to it. |
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Tanks Spiny Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Jilkon NO.... not really, there's always another side to the issue. Many other scientists think that global warming is natural just like the ice age was natural. Green house gases and other pollutants can cause problems in small areas, such as Mexico City, but it didn't cause a hole in the O-zone layer. that was probably their also. and plus the polar ice caps melting wouldn't raise water levels, it would lower since ice is more dnse than water. I'm not saying, screw the enviorment but rather these things are most likely natural, we're not in deep shit, and go plant a damn tree for mother nature. do it or father time will smite you |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6319 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Tanks Err... Aside from the fact that ice is LESS dense than water, that theory seems to have a slight flaw. Is all of the ice that would be melting already in the ocean? No, no it's not. If you've forgotten, Antarctica definitely has GROUND beneath it. Furthermore, the fact that ice floats on water means that even if there was no ground beneath Antarctica (meaning, if it was like the Arctic minus Russia/Canada/etc.), the ice is STILL not already in the oceans, as half of it (plus or minus) is floating on top. I could swear the ozone layer hole was supposedly caused by CFCs, but that's only tangentially related to that. |
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Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Global Warming is fact. That's clear. The world has warmed significantly in the past century.
For global warming to be natural, something must be releasing gasses into the atmosphere that intensifies the greenhouse effect. In the past, natural phenomena that altered the climate has included volcanoes, meteorites and thick polar icesheets from ice ages. What natural phenomena do you propose is causing global warming, because it's not any of the above... |
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l0rca Since: 07-23-06 Last post: 6391 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by Danielle That won't really help. The M-Theory, while helpful, is even more theoretically-inclined. But the first 150 pages are great. I don't remember much about super massive black holes in it though. (edited by l0rca on 11-29-06 07:22 PM) (edited by l0rca on 11-29-06 07:22 PM) |
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Tanks Spiny Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra That still doesn't mean global warming is a proven fact even if alot of things do point to it... It could be a natural cause we don't know about... If it is a synthetic cause, I would bet it's mostly nuclear power. I was just thinking about this though, what will we say when we have our next little ice age. There's to much ozone being emitted by our "insert whatever waste emmiting thing you want here" global cooling will kill us all! |
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Kasumi-Astra Flurry Since: 11-18-05 From: Sheffield England Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Tanks Whoah, nelly- I said that global warming is a fact- whether synthetic or natural it is most certainly warmer on Planet Earth than two centuries ago. Pleading ignorance is not good enough- in another two centuries there will be dire consequences for the fragile ecosystems in the world. There will be grave losses of human life. You can't just say "there might be something we don't know about". The fact is that we know that emissions into our atmosphere can affect the greenhouse effect. We know that the hole in the OZone layer has increased in size throughout the 20th century. We know that sea levels are rising and that we are seeing unprecedented examples of extreme weather. How do you explain these away? You can't. As for nuclear power, it has much less emissions than gas and coal powerstations, and won't contribute nearly as much carbon as the world's fleet of cars. How do can you suggest that it is to blame if you simply don't know? |
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l0rca Since: 07-23-06 Last post: 6391 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1690658&lastnode_id=1140332 |
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