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Posted on 11-28-06 08:23 PM Link | Quote
Hey, I'm no scientist. I was just pointing out that viruses do mutate.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 11-28-06 10:14 PM Link | Quote
HIV is not a fucking cold, that's slightly the point. Also, loved all your horridly unspecific examples; makes you look really ignorant and it was just very amusing. Please do some research in the future, because, hahaha. It's like you have no idea why AIDS does what it does.

There is empirical evidence that AIDS is caused by HIV. If you have done research and have no found this evidence, it is because your research is selective and you want to be contrary... Which makes you not worth arguing against, so I shall make no further points on this subject. Please do other people a favor and stop talking, though.

(edited by Alastor the Stylish on 11-29-06 05:16 AM)
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Posted on 11-29-06 03:48 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jilkon
The entire thing they suggest is that the virus actually mutates inside the body to adapt to the immune system. That's not what happens with common colds, they don't exactly stay in your body your whole life and just learn how to fight against you.


The common cold isn't HIV. HIV mutates rapidly because the reverse transcription process by which it integrates itself into a host nucleus is highly imperfect. Couple this with rapid multiplication and you get a variety of different HIV virii in the body at any one time. Antibodies and whatnot are HIGHLY specific in what they target. The new mutations may be resistant to defenses which are already in place. That's how it works.

Originally posted by Jilkon
Another interesting thing to note is the cases of aids without hiv, something they've solved by adding more things to the list of "aids diseases" and by actually declaring such cases not aids. Which means a patient with aids + hiv gets the diagnosis of aids immediately, while the other guy with, say, EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME SYMPTOMS is only sick in the particular diseases and suffering from some weird immune system disorder that is not aids.
Also, you guys aren't even willing to accept that there might be a different answer, which proves at least one of my points right. Standard scientific procedure when shit doesn't work out is to try a different way, scientists have been hellbent on this one same thing for decades and no one is allowed to even think that it might be wrong.


What the fuck are you talking about?

*edit* Actually, don't answer that. Please refer to Alastor's comment about not talking anymore =P

(edited by Kasdarack on 11-29-06 10:49 AM)
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Posted on 11-29-06 03:55 AM Link | Quote
There's some theories that the fall of WTC was caused by the goverment, or that the holocaust didn't happen, or that we didn't land on the moon.

But of course, thoose theories are quite weak. And I don't really see why there's a need for a AIDS conspriancy. Please don't even get me started about people who thinks HIV only happens to gay people.
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Since: 11-27-05
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Posted on 11-29-06 11:35 AM Link | Quote
If it wasn't for the fact that I'm just a doubter and not a fanatic believer in "the other side", coupled with the fact that there are severe restrictions and discriminations in areas for hiv-people, I'd get infected just to prove it wrong.

Well in any case, since you people always like wikipedia, read. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy or anything, I just think there IS in fact reason to research other areas.

I don't like being told that "there is evidence". All I've ever heard about the hiv->aids relation is that there is evidence, I've never actually seen/been shown the evidence. If there is evidence it is easy to just show it, there's no reason to keep it secret. (Scientific stuff is usually public material, I think I read that this is not the case for aids research.)
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Since: 06-17-06
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Posted on 11-29-06 01:00 PM Link | Quote
Those people are known as quacks. Or maybe idiots.
Read the wikipedia about HIV itself if you want to read a wiki. It talks about most of the things I learned about the virus in cellular/molecular class. THEN tell me how there's no connection between HIV and AIDS.
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