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Cynthia Uh-huh.                 Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| Explain how Notre Dame can have 10 wins, be whoomped twice and still be in a BCS bowl. :\
And no, I don't want to hear "because they're Notre Dame" as an answer. I mean, there's gotta be a team or two more deserving of it. It'll be interesting to see if some upsets (say, Rutgers winning this weekend to get in) mix things up like crazy. |
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Silvershield   580     Since: 11-19-05 From: Emerson, New Jersey Last post: 6321 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by ColinOh, you better believe it. Big East Champs, baby. And Rose Bowl, too.  |
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drjayphd Torosu OW! BURNY!  Since: 11-18-05 From: CT Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by Colin Because they're Notre Dame. No, for reals, there's no good reason. Booking ND in your BCS bowl is basically your very own personal money-printing license. Consequently, they'll be overrated (oh yeah, I Went There). Hopefully, this won't screw Boise State out of a good BCS bowl (and stick them in, you know, the shitty BCS bowl). Oh, and since Our Injury gets all the money and doesn't have to share it with the rest of a conference, they make out better than anyone else. The real losers are the fans.  |
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MathOnNapkins 1100  In SPC700 HELL Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by drjayphdOriginally posted by Colin I'd have to totally agree, even being an ND fan. I'd rather ND put more effort into shining in the regular season than get an easy pass into a bowl game. Lately they've been getting killed in bowl games when they manage to get into one. Why? There's a huge gap in talent. We try hard, but damn there's a huge gap in talent. That's Charlie Weis' job to fix. Seeing ND get trounced in bowl games is more embarassing than the regular season. |
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Young Guru Snifit  Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6315 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by neotransotaku NO! Bowl season is why college football is great and a playoff system will ruin it. I know that people will complain about not getting into the championship game, but as mike and mike so thoroughly proved with their "Shut The Hell Up" poll last week, everyone calling for a playoff needs to shut the hell up. I do think that we could do with removing the BCS computers from it and go back to just the votes because I think that would be better. (Sorry for coming off a little harsh on you, but I've heard way to much call for a playoff and I felt I needed to say it like it is). As for ND, it is because we are ND, and unlike any team in sports (except for the Yankees) we are the most hated/loved and nothing in the middle team there is. Other great schools don't draw the passion like we do (Sorry Ohio State, Mich, Miami (well, I think everyone hates miami right now), USC, you're great, you have tons of fans and national follow, but you don't have the country wide love/hate that ND does). And yes, we are like a printing press for the bowl, and let's face it, that's the main reason of the bowls outside of the national championship game which is firstly money and close second determining the national champion. Also, the NCAA (or BCS i don't remember) changed the rule on how much an individual school can bring in from a bowl so that we can't walk on home with 20 mil from a game, I think it got capped at 4 mil (but schools in conferences will still get the full money to split with the conference). And to everyone hating on ND getting into a potential BCS bowl, lets look at the last three losses ND has had, hmm, Ohio State (1st in the Nation, unanimously), Michigan (3rd, debateably 2nd), and USC (2nd, debateably 3rd). So that makes the only losses ND has had since losing to Mich. State last year being the number 1, 2, and 3 teams in the nation, is that really so bad (actually, in my book it is, any loss is bad, but not bad enough for me not to want us in the Rose Bowl). And I think this coming recruiting class will be great because Charlie has something to offer that a lot of coaches don't have, the rings. I mean, if you're an elite high school player and you want to play in the pros you're going to the guy that has won in the pros. He's working on getting that national title winning clout that ND used to have, but he'll always have the I'll get you into the pros ability more so than anyone else (let me tell you, holding one of those rings is quite an experience, and it weighs a ton). |
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NSNick Gohma IF ALL ELSE FAILS USE BOOZE  Since: 11-17-05 From: Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6311 days |
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Originally posted by Young Guru Eh, I actually like the BCS version better. They try to determine the top two teams and get them to play each other, which I like more than simply choosing the top team should the top two not happen to play each other. But either way, I agree that a playoff is: a) impractical to implement - can you imagine trying to completely rework the entire CFB schedule and either get rid of the bowls or somehow work them into this grand scheme? b) unfair - say a 2 loss non-conference winner gets into the tourney and wins it. Can anyone honestly say that a 2-loss non-conference winner deserves to have a shot at winning the NCG? Also, Urban Meyer needs to STFU. He whines about everything. |
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Young Guru Snifit Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6315 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| I believe we have a misunderstanding. What I meant by the BCS computers is the computer ranking. I think that we should just drop it down to two human polls (or maybe implement a third one) and determine bowls the same way we do now. Basically, I've never liked the computer rankings of teams, they never really seem to be that accurate, but I definitely don't want to go back to a time where Ohio State, Mich and USC might not even play eachother (well, actually, we'd have the same championship game if we were back in the day, it would just be USC v Ohio State at the Rose Bowl) in the bowl games and then it would have to be arbitrarily decided. Just scrap computers making a third of the selection process and keep everything the same. And yes, Urban, STFU. | |||
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Dr_Death16 970 Since: 05-07-06 From: Iowa Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by Dr_Death16Guys, this is what we need. Plus-one system: bowls stay the same as they are, with the exception of the BCS bowls; Top 4 teams play in a small playoff in two of the bowl games (1 v. 4, 2 v. 3), and then the winner of those two advance to the National Championship in a third BCS bowl (rotate sites of course). This is what I think would keep more teams happy than the current system. A full playoff system truly would not ever happen; this at least keeps the bowls as they already exist, but just adds an extra game for the two best teams. |
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NSNick Gohma IF ALL ELSE FAILS USE BOOZE Since: 11-17-05 From: Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6311 days |
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Originally posted by Young Guru Aha, I see now. |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| The ONLY way that there's no controversy is if two teams go unbeaten and are ranked 1-2 at the end of the year. That's it. If three teams go unbeaten, then... yeah. You have a problem and even if a team's schedule is weaker, that might not be a valid argument if they whipped their opposition all the time.
Just hope that it's always clear-cut. It won't be. |
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Toxic 250 TOX4ADMIN  Since: 11-17-05 From: I'm keeping a list. Last post: 6310 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| Somebody needs to rep FLA here...
Wouldn't you be pissed if you were the coach of a 1 loss team, not even being mentioned? I mean, USC lost to an unranked team; Florida at least lost to the number 10 team at the time. Of course, people will point to narrow victories at FSU and home vs. South Carolina, but not mention that FSU/UF is of course a huge rivalry, and The Ole Ball Coach rolled up with all guns blazing. It was his first time back at the Swamp, and of course he put everything into that game. |
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NSNick Gohma IF ALL ELSE FAILS USE BOOZE Since: 11-17-05 From: Last post: 6311 days Last view: 6311 days |
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| Eh, just from eyeballing, USC seems like a better team than Florida does. For that matter, so does Michigan. | |||
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Young Guru Snifit Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6315 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by Toxic Not that I usually do this, but Michigan lost to the number 1 team (ranked that way both when they played and right now) and they're pretty much out of contention for the title game if USC beats UCLA (and you never know with rivalry games, but I'd be shocked if they lost). And yeah, FLA's wins haven't looked that impressive. Same situation ND would have been in if we beat SC because our only loss would have been to Michigan, but our victories didn't look that spectacular (I'll admit it, they looked like crap). |
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drjayphd Torosu OW! BURNY! Since: 11-18-05 From: CT Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by Toxic And thusly, Urban Meyer has a point. The reason no one's really talking about Florida as contenders is that their wins have been less than impressive. If they roll into the SCC champeenship and pound the snot out of Arkansas, then they'll have... what, one dominant win on the year?  (Editor's note: Like probably most of the voters, I haven't watched Florida's games, so I don't know how well they've been playing. Like I said, most of the voters haven't either. ) |
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Toxic 250 TOX4ADMIN Since: 11-17-05 From: I'm keeping a list. Last post: 6310 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| 34-7 vs Central Miss
42-0 vs. Central Fla. 62-0 vs. Western Carolina None of them were ranked, but I really don't care that much. I just needed to rep FLA, however briefly. |
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Dr_Death16 970 Since: 05-07-06 From: Iowa Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by ToxicTwo I-AA teams and a Big East team don't help Florida look good in my opinion. However, I like their in-conference schedule; they probably thought when making it that the SEC scheduling alone would be enough to have them in the championship if they were in this position. However, without any good out-of-conference wins, Florida doesn't look quite so good as USC at this point. If only they hadn't melted down against Auburn in that showdown game... (I remember all that ESPN 360 coverage, it only turned out to be an okay game though, lol). |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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And UCLA just beat USC. 
Michigan or Florida vs. Ohio State for the title. Take your pick. |
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Danielle 6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE   Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6310 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| All I have to say is:
HAHA USC YOU JUST LOST TO UCLA <3 |
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Dr_Death16 970 Since: 05-07-06 From: Iowa Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| Lol... I hope those BCS nerds have fun trying to sort this out; funny thing is, either team that goes to the title game, one thing remains the same: THE BCS LOSES for their idiotic system having failed once again to clearly determine the 2 title contenders.
Edit: Of course, Florida has to WIN first... jumped the gun on that after seeing them up 17 in the 2nd quarter, but it's now 17-7, so its not a given yet.  (edited by Dr_Death16 on 12-02-06 08:04 PM) |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| Technically, you could put Ohio State vs. Boise State since they're both undefeated.
(It's just that, you know, people would still cry foul.) |
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