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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - Hardware / Software - Wireless Networking / Router help (Basics I'm sure) |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin                    Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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| So, my dad randomly decided to switch from Yahoo SBC DSL to Comcast Cable. In doing this, he had to get rid of our other modem that had wireless capabilities. So I went out and boughty a Linksys Wireless - G router for myself.
Well, I guess I just need to know how to setup a secured wireless network for our home. Right now my laptop can 'find' the connection to the linksys router, but its an open connection (not good I'd say), and from there ... I can't do anything on the net, or can't access anything. Its not like I don't have the permission, everything just doesn't work (alright, same thing basically but you know what I'm trying to say?). My 360 / Wii also cannot connect. So how would I go about setting up a secured network? I guess that's my question here. My Laptop / 360 / Wii were all connected wirelessly before, which is what I need to figure out again here. Right now I'm on our family computer, the only one that can actually do anything on the net. But its directly connected to everything. (Computer - Router - Modem). My friends are telling me I can just go to My Network Places then 'Setup a wireless network for a home or small office', but that really didn't seem to work, and just didn't do much ... |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828  Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6335 days Last view: 6335 days |
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| Windows sometimes has trouble with wireless networking, but out of the box it usually works alright. You should see an icon in the system tray indicating your network status. If it's disconnected, double-click it to open a list of available networks, then click Refresh List to actually view the list. Find the one you want and double-click it.
Now here's the fun part. If you set it to automatically connect to any given network, and you want to connect to another while this one is still in range, you pretty much have to delete all reference to it by clicking Change Order Of Preferred Networks. Basically to get it reliably connecting to your network when available, you have to fiddle with this a LOT. If it's asking for a network key when none is needed or it's already stored, you need to reboot and/or remove all the networks this way.  When you have a nice clean list with nothing starred, find yours, click Connect, and with any luck it'll do that correctly from then on.
Now if the icon shows what kinda looks like two computers and a bell slowly moving back and forth, then it's busy setting up a connection. If it keeps doing that or is always in this state then your signal is probably too weak. Also, make sure the router is set up correctly. As for security, WPA is best but I don't know if Wii can do it. DS can't.  WEP is ridiculously easy to crack. |
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Zidane Koopa  Since: 07-14-06 From: Melbourne, FL Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6341 days |
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| When you buy a Linksys, the first thing you have to do is configure the router through a direct connection to it. Along with the router, you should of gotten a CD and an instruction manual that says to use the CD for first-time installation. :p Just hook up your laptop through Ethernet and run the CD. You'll go through a wizard that is pretty easy to understand. Once you've got everything working, you won't need that CD again, even if you hard reset the router. Just remember to keep your wireless connection off while directly connected to the router for setup.
Unless you're worried about your neighbors using your connection, you shouldn't even bother with wireless security. And unless you've got some files on the computer that must never be viewed outside of the house, you're just as good with WEP as you are with WPA. WEP cracking is involved and time consuming. It is a waste of time. Anyone who is able to do it has better things to do, unless he or she just wants to use your connection. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6335 days Last view: 6335 days |
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| WEP can be cracked about 4 minutes nowadays. | |||
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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| Alright, now here's a dumber question ... is there a way I can find out my routers IP?
Yeah, I've looked around, and tried all of the defualt ones but none of them worked. |
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DarkSlaya   930 Gamma Ray  Since: 11-17-05 From: Montreal, Canada Last post: 6335 days Last view: 6334 days |
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| Wait, your router's IP?
Like, 192.168.1.1 ? I have a Linksys router, and that does the trick. |
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FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos  Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker Four minutes long? More like 45 seconds. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6335 days Last view: 6335 days |
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Originally posted by Racer Xeo "ipconfig" in a console. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by DarkSlaya Yeah, I've tried that and a few other IP's similar (default ones). It always times out. 
So ... yeah. 
Originally posted by Zidane So I've run the configuration on my family computer (days ago), the one directly connected to the router and modem. Should I connect my laptop to the router and then run setup on it or something? I dunno, we might just have some guy come up here and set this all up for us. |
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Tanks Spiny  Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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| I'm glad someone started a thread about this, Ive got a D-Link router that went offline one day and the rested itself, I hooked it back up and it was and unsecure network, I tried to acess router options to resecure it but it won't work, and Network magic doesn't work with my network either. My family can still connect but it's still unscure. | |||
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Zidane Koopa Since: 07-14-06 From: Melbourne, FL Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6341 days |
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Originally posted by Racer XeoOriginally posted by DarkSlaya It's going to time out because you aren't even connected to the router. :p You can set the router IP to whatever you want, but it defaults to 192.168.1.1 after setting the router up. Originally posted by Racer XeoOriginally posted by Zidane So the configuration went smoothly? You didn't set any encryption at all? Have you tried connecting to the router with your other computer (after removing the direct connection)? Have you tried connecting with any other computers? Which wireless types are you allowing to connect to the router ? I would connect to the router with your family computer and check the settings for anything out of the ordinary, like blocked mac addresses. You could also double check your network settings to make sure you have the network authentication set to Open, data encryption disabled, and haven't got it running in something like ad-hoc mode. If you're desperate, you could try hard resetting the router (little black button in the back of the router), which would have the router running at the factory defaults (IP 192.168.1.1, no encryption, wireless g and b, SSID linksys). Originally posted by Tanks Not secure? It sounds like the data encryption was taken off when the router reset. Who set it up last time? If you connect to the router's setup page, there should be something that let's you edit wireless security (just make sure you choose something that your network cards support, too). |
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Tanks Spiny Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by Zidane That's the thing though, there is no router setup page. And the router didn't really reset, It was probably a power surge. For weeks, My computer wouldn't detect the router. Then it suddenly started working again, unsecure and no setup page. The only thing that can be altered is the networks name. I think I should go to customer service or get a new wireless router. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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| An oddity is that I was able to connect to my router through my laptop (I just so happened to have one of those moments where I had a successful connection to someone else for a few minutes), but right when I got done trying to edit things the connection was lost.
Tried same IP and everything on our computer WITH the connection, but it won't work. Too stressful. We'll probably just have some guy come up and set things up for us.  |
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DarkSlaya 930 Gamma Ray Since: 11-17-05 From: Montreal, Canada Last post: 6335 days Last view: 6334 days |
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| Flash your router with DD-WRT.
Seriously. I've had tons of problems with the default firmware. With this one, the router config NEVER timed out. |
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Black Lord + Flurry Since: 11-17-05 From: Where indians still roam... Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6337 days |
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Originally posted by DarkSlaya Quoted for emphasis... I was just going to recommend myself... I seriously turned this $30 dollar piece of junk into a router that would probably be worth a lot more (heh, nice). DD-WRT is amazing... never had a problem with it since I put it on my router. |
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Zidane Koopa Since: 07-14-06 From: Melbourne, FL Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6341 days |
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| I don't suggest doing anything like that until you've figured out what the problem is. There is always a small chance that there is something wrong with the router hardware. If you change the firmware, they probably won't give you a refund if it still doesn't work. :p
I'm guessing that you probably have a WRT54G, as they're pretty cheap and can be bought from almost anywhere. The latest revisions don't even have a Linux OS anymore, meaning that you'll have to flash the OS in order to install DD-WRT (which happens to be the only working third party firmware for the latest WRT54G revision, as they come with very little memory). Screw it up, and you'll have to use a JTAG interface to fix it. :p |
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Tanks Spiny Since: 06-19-06 From: Eagle Land Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by DarkSlaya Too bad it doesn't work with D-link... Anyone know anything like DD-WRT that would work with those routers? |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6334 days Last view: 6334 days |
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Originally posted by Zidane WRT54GS, if it makes a huge difference. And wow, I definitely should've mentioned the version in my first post. |
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