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Silvershield   580                    Since: 11-19-05 From: Emerson, New Jersey Last post: 6325 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Originally posted by Rom ManicIgnoring the fact that your race analogy is ludicrous and irrelevant, you must be be just pulling my leg, no? Do you honestly believe, truly in your heart, that a fairly harmless over-the-counter drug like Tylenol is equivalent to crack cocaine or heroin? Or that I, as a regular user of such OTC drugs, am equivalent to a crack addict? To call that statement utterly absurd is an understatement. The truth of the matter is, while the "legal" and "illegal" categories are notably imperfect - something like marijuana, while illegal, is fairly harmless, while many cough syrups, while legal, can fairly easily be used for recreational effect - they serve as pretty solid guides for the differences between drugs. Most illegal drugs are harmful when used as they are intended (which is to say, when they are taken for recreational use), while most (or even all) legal drugs are harmless when used as intended (which is to say, when they are taken in controlled doses to combat ailments and whatnot). It is ridiculous for you too equate the two categories of substances, and the users within each respective category, as identical. A better set of categories would probably be "controlled" versus "over-the-counter." Plenty of drugs that are perfectly legal could be used recreationally, though they would require prescriptions to obtain in the first place. Just a small detail, but an important one. |
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Clockworkz Birdon  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by SkreenameThat's not a drug, jack. That's a poison. I hope to god you know the difference between a "drug" and a poison. Drugs are INTENDED to get you high. Poisons are intended to kill you. Seriously; when's the last time you ever heard someone say, "Yo, dawg; gimmie a G. of amanita, man!" Legal drugs: Weed and Shrooms. That's it. And if I hear you go "oh, amanita are shrooms, dumbass", I will slap you for not knowing that there's only a certain kind of shroom that has the effect that I'm talking about: Psilocybin/Psilocin Mushrooms. The Shroomery has information pretaining to this. |
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Aiya Poppy Bros. Jr Bah. >B( Since: 11-28-05 Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Originally posted by Silvershield Sounds to me like he's comparing them, but not saying they are exactly the same. Saying every drug has an effect on your system is true. Whether that effect is negative or not is a different matter. Note, though, that OTCs can have a negative effect on your body. Drowsiness, upset stomach, etc. It all depends on how your body reacts. They may not be the same, but you can still make comparisons to see the differences and similarities. A drug is a drug, even if one is considered to have more 'negative' effects than another. (edited by Aiya on 11-16-06 03:04 AM) |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6319 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by ClockworkzProbably an inappropriate time for my general complaint of the whole "all-natural!" craze that goes on nowadays. My apologies. (And yes, I'm well aware that you don't use deathcaps, or button mushrooms, or portobellas, no matter how weird they may be. Thanks for the actual name of the psychoactive ones, though, didn't know that. I just always heard "shrooms" for it, and that is... needless to say, very useless for someone who doesn't know much about the particularities of such things.) EDIT: Sorry if any of that sounds sarcastic or anything. It's not intended to be, it's just kinda... really late, and my mind isn't doing so good for writing stuff in a neutral tone. (edited by Skreename on 11-16-06 03:14 AM) |
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Valcion Knuckle Joe too much high power man  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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I've seen both ends of it, I've seen people consumed by it so much that it caused them to be total assholes to all their friends because they were too busy with drugs and shit. HOWEVER. I've known a lot more people, especially in recent times. That smoke pot. Responsibly, mind you. And they're great people. On the way to success, if not there already. As for myself? I have never tried it, even though sometimes i wonder if smoking it occasionaly would help me loosen up a bit. It probably would, but then again that's relying on something else to solve what can easily be solved by willpower and hot-blooded spirit. i can't form any opinion on it whatsoever on the basis that I haven't tried it. However, from what i can tell. Its like anything else. In moderation, its no problem. also, i find it funny when people look down on others for smoking/being addicted to pot when they're addicted to mmorpgs/the internet. Seriously. And honestly, that addiction is probably about just as bad, if not worse than an addiction to pot or what have you. (edited by Valcion on 11-16-06 08:10 AM) (edited by Valcion on 11-16-06 08:12 AM) |
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Silvershield 580 Since: 11-19-05 From: Emerson, New Jersey Last post: 6325 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Originally posted by Aiya"[...] You probably take drugs every now and then anyway, you hypocrites. [...] How come this doesn't affect people who take a fucking tylenol every now and then when they have a headache?" He directly says that anyone who takes a Tylenol yet calls themselves anti-drugs is a hypocrite. And by anti-drug, it is obvious that he recognizes "hard drugs" as those substances which a person is against. His words equate hard drugs with Tylenol and other simple painkillers. Originally posted by AiyaYou're resorting to semantics rather than dealing with the literal issue. The difference between the two categories of drugs is that, while uncontrolled drugs are absolutely harmless (beyond "drowsiness" or an "upset stomach," as you point out, which are not exactly life-threatening) when used as intended, controlled drugs carry significant side effects. For the most part. As I've stated previously, some drugs that are controlled really do not belong in that category (marijuana being one example), while some that are uncontrolled maybe should be. |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Silvershield Hold on, I'm about to down this bottle of Tylenol. Don't worry about me, I don't exist. Originally posted by Silvershield Have you ever smoked the plant? Is it really an avatar of true poison for you? Think of it this way: How many people smoke up, and how many people are dying from it? 6 billion people on Earth. Go. |
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Xkeeper Took the board down in a blaze of glory, only to reveal how truly moronical ||bass is. Since: 11-17-05 From: Henderson, Nevada Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Originally posted by Rom ManicOriginally posted by Silvershield  (edited by Xkeeper on 11-20-06 12:30 AM) |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Silvershield 580 Since: 11-19-05 From: Emerson, New Jersey Last post: 6325 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Originally posted by Rom ManicWow, 0 for 2. You're batting .000.Originally posted by Silvershield |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now.  Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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| It won't let me vote... =P
Anyway, I smoke out occasionally. I enjoy smoking a J with a friend or two every now and then. It really takes the edge off, but I don't do it often enough for it to really affect my life. We're talking being able to count the number of times per year on one hand. I find that it is the best anti-depressant I've ever tried. No nasty side effects... it feels cool...I like it. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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God dammit Xkeeper, I hate that Game Over picture! It creeps me out! And now its followed me to work! 
As for Rom Maniac and the assertion that "a drug is a drug" / all drugs are the same, this strikes me as a bit off. Fallacy of the General Rule or Reductive Fallacy perhaps? It seems to both over-simplify and also to state that something true of one must be true in all instances... Personally I see lots of differences when it comes to "drugs" or "medication". I stated earlier in this thread that I choose to smoke marijuana for chronic pain rather than be prescribed a narcotic painkiller -- this is because I see big differences between these two drugs, particularly with their addictiveness. I'm pretty sure the field of medical science sees a lot of difference in different drugs also.  Ask your doctor. |
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Silvershield I believe it is you who misunderstood my first quote. You made it sound like people who DO down bottles of tylenol at a time do not exist. That is wrong to assume. 200,000,000 million americans and you can't tell me that at least one is suicidal enough, or ignorant enough, to down enough to kill ones self? The second quote there I misread at first. My mistake. Tarale: Both of those fallacies do not apply in this case. Assuming Tylenol and Weed are the same is just as safe as assuming that a tweeter and a subwoofer are the same. Both are sound devices and process a wave signal into vibrations, but the subwoofer only vibrates at a low frequency, while the tweeters will vibrate at any other frequency to give you perfect sound. Sure, one subwoofer might have a bigger speaker than another one, but there is no denying they are subwoofers. Perhaps you should ask your doctor if you are concerned with the validity of my posts. It's not that I am blind to the truth, it's what you choose to see that blinds you to the truth. |
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n3g-Z3r0 theory Rat Since: 01-09-06 From: Augusta, Ks Last post: 6355 days Last view: 6332 days |
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Originally posted by Pvt. Prinny Dude, I so helped you fill that 2 liter bottle for your mom and Bob...And I don't smoke, don't plan to. But if I wanted to I could very easily. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Rom ManicOriginally posted by Silvershield No, I still believe its Reductive Fallacy, as to say all drugs are the same, you're simplifying "drugs" down to the most basic of definitions. That its a substance introduced to the body which produces a physiological effect. In doing so however, I could make a Reductio Ad Absurdum response that this means that Salbutamol (Ventolin) is the same as Crystal Meth. After all, they both have a physiological effect. That means a 12 year old kid that needs their Salbutamol to live (or specifically to prevent death) is effectively the same as a crystal meth user, a heroin addict, or an alcoholic. It's all the same anyway.
It's okay though, they're all the same as me with my 3 shots of espresso in the morning. Mmmm... caffeine. (edited by Tarale on 11-20-06 04:39 PM) |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now. Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite.  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6313 days |
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| A drug is a drug... While there are different classifications of drugs, if you say drugs, it sometimes is better to be more specific.
Someone using tylonel and someone using meth are both taking drugs... |
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Lakithunder Darknut  Since: 09-18-06 From: The Wind Fish's Dream Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Pvt. Prinny Point taken, but people taking Tylonol are usually doing it to ease some form of pain. Cigarettes and such and such are drug ABUSE. Abuse is wrong and if you refuse help to quit, then good luck wit ya. |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite. Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6313 days |
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| You certainly don't need tylonol though. You're using it to gain an effect. It's just a lot smaller of an effect than meth. | |||
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Lakithunder Darknut Since: 09-18-06 From: The Wind Fish's Dream Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by Pvt. Prinny Everyone takes Tylonol at least at one point of their life. Most take it often for pain. Ibuprofen (spelling) is also like this. Drugs like meth are used to ease pain when there is no physical pain to begin with. |
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