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pikaguy900 Sparky                    Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| I'm ready to try my hand at using ASM to make my own custom blocks, so I've been reading the help file in LM to see what it has to offer me in terms of how to do it. I have a few questions, though:
1: The whole "only 3 JSLs per offset" thing confuses me. Doesn't that mean you can only have 3 Blocks use the action that each offset handles and no more? 2: Does the subroutine for the Custom Blocks have a limit to how long they can be? 3: If those offsets tell the subroutine what to do when something happens (I.e., when Mario hits a block, when a Koopa Shell hits a block, etc.), how does the subroutine tell the block exactly what to do when that thing happens (I.e., the SMB3 Breakable Bricks are destroyed when hit from below or with a Koopa Shell, and when they are destroyed, they use the sound effects of Mario Spin-Jumping/Tornado-Jumping on a Turn Block, and use the GFX of them being destroyed)? That would help me. 4: Are there any other tips you guys can give me before I try, besides "Don't give up if you don't get it the first time"? Thanks for the help! (edited by pikaguy900 on 10-20-06 05:25 PM) |
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6327 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| for 3, you write the code for each action in the block code, and then fill in the offsets in blocktool.
For example, if the code for the fireball action is at offset 17 in the code, you would put '17' in the fireball offset field in blocktool. Note that blocktool uses decimal offsets instead of hexadecimal, which is.. stupid. Also, if you put -1 as the offset, the block will act like whatever you set its behavior to in Lunar Magic. for 2, blocktool uses JSRs to get to the code, so you're limited to the free space in the bank that blocktool's code uses (heck if I know which bank that is, though..) for 1.. no idea. |
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pikaguy900 Sparky Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| Uhh... I said "using ASM". If I can learn how to make custom blocks with ASM, I'm giving up BlockTool completely. I don't want to use it anymore. Still, that helps me a bit. I'm sure the way BlockTool does things with Custom Blocks isn't too different from making your own with ASM. By that, I mean, instead of having to insert them using BlockTool, you insert them directly into the hack. | |||
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6327 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| Actually, you said you tried "making your own blocks with ASM", not "inserting them with ASM instead of Blocktool".
There is a difference. |
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pikaguy900 Sparky Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6327 days |
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Originally posted by Kailieann Oh, sorry. Anyways, I want to do both. I'm sure the inserting part won't be hard (All you have to do is just make the code and set it up right and that's it, right?). It's the "making the subroutine" part I'm worried about. But you know? Thanks to you, I now know everything I need to know about those mysterious offsets BlockTool uses. I never knew it had to do with the addresses in the hack. Oh well. |
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Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice!  Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6328 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| Use one of the JSL's to jump to code that finds out which bnlock you're using, then jumps to that block's code. After that, it's a matter of returning. | |||
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pikaguy900 Sparky Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| Okay. Thanks! I guess now I should go back and read that ASM guide again... To refresh my memory, of course. | |||
spel werdz rite Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6328 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| Soon as you learn from your little ASM manual, give me a PM and I'll show you how to add blocks through raw hex which is ... yes, a MAJOR space saver! (And makes stuff easier to find) | |||
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pikaguy900 Sparky Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6340 days Last view: 6327 days |
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Will do. Before I do that, though, I must try it myself. The reason is simple: To see if I truly understand it. If I can make a simple block (like one that's already in BlockTool) work by inserting it with ASM, then I know I can do other ASM... It makes sense to me...  |
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