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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - SMW Hacking - Power-up sprites going behind foreground. wth |
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Atma Kabu                   Since: 11-27-05 From: New Mexico (what a gay place!) - Canada <3 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Ok, this is one of those weird things that probably has a smiple solution. I think I'm just overlooking something constantly, and it's starting to drive me crazy.
You know how sometimes Fire Flowers and Mushrooms (maybe some others as well) just suddenly go behind the foreground and they're like the only sprites that do it; everything else works just fine (and I checked my layer priority settings, that's not a prob at all). Well this happens to me at random sometimes and I'm wondering how to get it to stop doing that >.<. Anyone got a solution to this? (edited by Atma on 10-12-06 11:47 PM) |
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asdf Link's Awakening ಠ_ಠ    Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6278 days |
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It's not random - it happens while the Fire Flower or Mushroom is popping up where an object in the foreground is. There was a fix for that mentioned in the ROM Address thread. As Bio posted...
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Atma Kabu Since: 11-27-05 From: New Mexico (what a gay place!) - Canada <3 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I actually have one that's just placed on the ground that's doing it. None coming out of a question box here.
Well anyway, tnx for the address. ps. There sure seems to be a lot of fixes that use "EA EA EA",... lolz (edited by Atma on 10-12-06 11:54 PM) |
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asdf Link's Awakening ಠ_ಠ Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6278 days |
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No problem. It's on the ground? And it's always behind the foreground while it's on the ground? If so, that's weird. It usually fixes itself when it pops out of a question box. What I think happens is that the priority is turned on while it is coming out of the box so it properly shows behind the box, but is turned off when it stops coming out. But when a flower is normally placed, it doesn't turn off that behavior - as it is on by default. I may be completely wrong, though.  (edited by asdf on 10-13-06 12:02 AM) |
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Atma Kabu Since: 11-27-05 From: New Mexico (what a gay place!) - Canada <3 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Yea, it's just a fire flower by iteself that I have placed that was doing that. I do remember seeing it do it out of questions before as well, like you were thinking of. But I just changed the Address you gave me and it all works now. (edited by Atma on 10-13-06 12:02 AM) (edited by Atma on 10-13-06 12:03 AM) |
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MathOnNapkins  1100  In SPC700 HELL Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| SMW hacking approach: use EA EA EA
Anything else hacking approach: hook and patch using a custom routine Makes me sad  |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| If it works, it works. | |||
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Xkeeper Took the board down in a blaze of glory, only to reveal how truly moronical ||bass is. Since: 11-17-05 From: Henderson, Nevada Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| NOPing out unneeded routines > wriring excessive, bloated code to accomplish the same thing | |||
pikaguy900 Sparky Since: 08-10-06 Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| Actually, I think that Layer Priority is turned off when sprites come out of Blocks, since when Layer Priority is turned on for tiles, they'll appear above everything. | |||
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MathOnNapkins 1100 In SPC700 HELL Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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Originally posted by Xkeeper The point I was trying to make is that telling someone to NOP NOP NOP instead of hook discourages people from actually learning what the routine they are calling does. Also, it is not always the best solution to completely disable a behavior. It may be beneficial to sometimes let the behavior run, and in some cases not. example, in place of NOPs, you could: JSR hook hook: LDA levelNumber TAX LDA levelBehaviorList, X CMP dontUseBehavior BEQ disabled JSR originalRoutine disabled: RTS This is an oversimplified scenario b/c in truth, hooking a routine can be tricky at times, but I think my point stands. |
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Disruptive Idiot Red Paragoomba Since: 11-17-05 From: Syosset Last post: 6406 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| While it won't teach them ASM or anything about the routine, it will teach them good programming practice: Do the most amount of work with the least amount of effort possible. | |||
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6278 days Last view: 6278 days |
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| 80 01 EA is more processor-efficient than EA EA EA.
Adding custom subroutines like that is only useful if you want to include the original behavior as well as alternate behavior. Most people just want a particular feature gone. Most people don't actually want to learn ASM. They just want to make simple changes, and trying to teach them ASM when they don't want to learn is probably just going to confuse them and make them abandon the project. If they were interested in learning ASM, they would ask. |
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Atma Kabu Since: 11-27-05 From: New Mexico (what a gay place!) - Canada <3 Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Wow, how did sarcasm get into a serious discussion. lol~
Originally posted by KailieannFor some people yes, and I don't know if you or anyone was refering to me here as well, but it's not a prob for me, cuz I already know it. Anyway, got my question answered already. (edited by Atma on 10-14-06 01:12 PM) (edited by Atma on 10-14-06 01:44 PM) (edited by Atma on 10-14-06 01:47 PM) (edited by Atma on 10-14-06 01:48 PM) (edited by Atma on 10-14-06 01:49 PM) |
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