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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - Hardware / Software - You know: What's the point in online ads anymore? |
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Nebetsu Mole                  Since: 11-17-05 From: WarKoL Last post: 6326 days Last view: 6326 days |
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| Most of us now have things that can get rid of this ad or that ad easily without hassle. What's the point in having online ads anymore if they're just going to get blocked and not clicked on? | |||
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Zem Permabanned. Flaming, trolling, reregistering.    Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6635 days Last view: 6635 days |
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Originally posted by Nebetsu All the internoobs who can't tell the ads that look like system messages from actual system messages? You and your friends don't make up the entire internet-browsing populace, you know. Nearly all middle-class Americans (I think) deal with the internet fairly often now, and they're not all computer literate. |
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Nebetsu Mole Since: 11-17-05 From: WarKoL Last post: 6326 days Last view: 6326 days |
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| Actually yeah. That reminds me of an exgirfriend. She thought that I had "3 new messages waiting for me." I'm kinda like: "Yeah... whatever" | |||
Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| For every person who knows how to block the ads, there's a lot more who don't. They're still getting their message/spyware out there to a large audience, and surprisingly us knowledgeable types only make up a small percentage of the population. | |||
FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos  Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| It's mainly Microsoft's fault. Internet Explorer has ZERO capability for blocking ads by itself, and unfortunately ~60-80% (depending on where you get your stats) of the Web users are using IE.
Whereas other major browsers like Konqueror, lololol, and Opera have ad-blocking built right in  |
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Zem Permabanned. Flaming, trolling, reregistering. Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6635 days Last view: 6635 days |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS Oh, come on. It's true that there are many problems with IE, including lack of ad-blocking. However, "IE doesn't have ad blocking" does not mean "the internet has ads because of Microsoft's incompetence and/or pure evil." |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...  Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| I don't block ads. Why should I? Well, I do block pop-ups... but they're evil.
Only annoying ads are popups, and thoose are blocked. Apart from that only certain flash ads annoy me, and they're easily blocked. Ads such as google ads dosen't annoy me, so I see no reason to block them... 
Besides, I prefer to see a few ads on sites than... "GIVE US MONEY, AND WE GIVE YOU ACCESS!!!11" sites.  (edited by Ailure on 12-13-05 08:31 AM) |
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FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| the geeks have always had their localhost proxies to block ads and obnoxious HTML and the such, but now that ad-blocking is built into nearly every browser, there's no excuse but the fact that IE allows them to exist.
Google and Yahoo ads are okay though, they're text only. The way ads should be. |
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Chronosphere-x Red Koopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6408 days Last view: 6408 days |
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| I block pop up but thats it. And yeah the noobs always click them, like mum, silly cow... | |||
SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6314 days |
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| Have any of you clicked on those ads on acmlmboards? They aren't in the way, so I don't really mind google ads. | |||
HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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It's almost sad to watch people see them and think "Oh, I have messages" and click them. They don't even read the message sometimes, just look for the 'OK' button. 
The main point is that a lot of advertisers pay for you just to display the ads whether people click them or not. Since most people don't have any blocking mechanism in place, that's a fairly nice income for a popular site. Why people will stoop to popups and flash ads and spyware and all that crap, however, I shall never understand. Sure they may pay better, but what's the point if everyone who sees them never visits your site again? |
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Zem Permabanned. Flaming, trolling, reregistering. Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6635 days Last view: 6635 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker Well, obviously that's not what happens. |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace... Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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Originally posted by SamuraiXI had. Might be said, it was a really ridecolous one... it caught my intrest, but not in the way that the company wanted. It was about a site, where you could sign up for getting access to "thousands of old games". Yeah.. a rom site trying to be legal.
Isn't warez against Google's policy? --; |
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Cruel Justice I have better things to do. Since: 11-18-05 From: At my house! Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| Companies raping the stupid people's computers get a lot of money. Let's say that there are about 48 million stupid people, they get about 7 cents from each of them every day. Do the math.
Quite frankly, I don't feel sorry for people who are dumb enough to believe that AOL would protect their computers from spyware. They don't deserve to have computers if they cannot use them. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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Originally posted by ZemOriginally posted by HyperHacker That's what I do. |
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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6312 days Last view: 6312 days |
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| Meh, online advertising is interesting.
Obviously in just about every media we're exposed to, there's advertising. TV, Radio, movies, billboards, newspapers, public transport, telegraph poles, and of course the web... Most people are so over-exposed to advertising they filter out most of it anyways -- regardless of whether it's TV, or whatever. People simply don't listen to the ads on the radio, or they record TV shows without the ads (omg "stealing" tv!! -- another issue), or whatever. The internet really isn't all that different. What seems to be different about the internet is that several unscrupulous companies have worked out that they can manipulate computers/users to force advertising on their potential customers through spyware and popup advertising. And they also can be avoided once you're aware of it and such. Some browsers and platforms make it harder than others, of course. What I think is interesting about "online advertising" is that a lot of what is considered "advertising" on the internet really doesn't fall into the category of "advertising", at least in my mind. I'd consider it closer to "social engineering" -- a lot of things on the internet don't so much try to convince a customer to buy or install something using good-old-fashioned salesmanship, so much as they trick somebody into doing so. I don't consider that "advertising". Some of the actual advertising on the web is fairly well done and if done properly has been useful for helping me find products that I have been interested in / purchased / installed -- without social engineering and trickery. AliasSketchbook Pro for example is something I saw advertised on an art related site. And webhosting is something I've also found through internet advertising. Oh, and unrelated -- work blocks the Google Ads on this site, simply to save bandwidth. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6313 days |
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You know... when you think about it, commercials on TV are a lot like the worst ads I've seen online. They pop up in the middle of a show, have really loud annoying sound, try to sell you something you don't want or can't even buy (the online ad I refer to was for the US Army - I'm Canadian and was ~15), and you can't get rid of them, only let them go until they stop themselves. But for some reason online ads are a lot more annoying. 
I guess it's because with commercials you know what you're getting. They start at a specific time (not like halfway through dialog) during each show, play a minute or two, then stop. They can't fuck up your TV, steal personal info, etc, and are FCC-regulated. In fact, unexpected TV ads (like when the news channel plugs their website/show in the scrolling headlines) still do bother me. So I suppose the unexpected interruption is the biggest factor. (Of course, another factor is that with TV, commercials are your only chance to leave without missing content. )
Oh, yes, and the Google ads... I'm at school so I saw them. In a thread about IQ: -Post and rope sales -Modified go-carts -Fast-download usenet The usenet I can somewhat understand, because it's a board and there were sentences like 'mine is xxx' (like if people compared download speeds) but I have no idea what the bloody hell ropes and go-carts have to do with it.
The login/reply pages are at least somewhat accurate, hawking authentication systems and the like... though to me it seems kinda intrusive to have ads on a page where you provide your password in the first place. [edit] Ohhhhh.... In my profile, I got 2 AMD ads (makes sense, I listed my computer specs there) and one for a DRM system. How's that for ad placement? I'm a firm believer that DRM needs to die painfully and its inventor hung by the testicles (can't think of an equally fitting variation for a woman, but yeah). My bio doesn't even mention it, though. (Unless it was the software patents thing in my sig? )
[edit 2] Oh that's just too funny. One of the ads now is advertising an advertising agency.  (edited by HyperHacker on 12-16-05 10:15 AM) (edited by HyperHacker on 12-16-05 10:16 AM) |
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