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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828                    Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6332 days Last view: 6332 days |
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Zidane Koopa  Since: 07-14-06 From: Melbourne, FL Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6337 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker Are you not a programmer yourself? Removing a button shouldn't be harder than removing (or commenting out) a line of code or subroutine. I cannot see a major corporation like Nintendo using such horrible programming practice. It is true that sometimes companies will not bother to remove unused code, but they do not have the software run it. My best guess is that someone was lazy and/or screwed up and they forgot all about it. |
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Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice!  Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6332 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| That depends on how it's programmed.
What if the same code runs all the buttons, and it just jumps to the correct code bits as needed, when you hit the button. Smaller code, and just as possible that reads from a data table... that would make it easier to just move the button rather than recoding or messing with tables and pointers and crap. |
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Zidane Koopa Since: 07-14-06 From: Melbourne, FL Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6337 days |
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Originally posted by Sukasa + ...? I don't follow what you're saying. I don't see any practical way of coding a button that would make it faster by more than a few seconds to move and resize it rather than cut/comment it out. loadButton --> // loadButton Oh my god, it's gone! Lol. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6332 days Last view: 6332 days |
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| Depending how they coded the interface, it may well just be an array of button coordinates to respond to poking and a static bitmap/tilemap. They had to edit the interface anyway, so just moving the button out of the way during the process would probably have been easier than coding it not to respond to that button, and if it does use an array, then removing a button would throw all the other positions off.
If they stored the button position info with the interface, then they may even be able to just edit the coords without recompiling, whereas recoding it would require a recompile. Translators may not even have access to the code to do this. In any case, by editing or removing code you risk breaking something, and in such an important application that's not a risk you want to take. Just moving the button prevents this risk. |
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Zidane Koopa Since: 07-14-06 From: Melbourne, FL Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6337 days |
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Even if the button was in an array, it would still take only a minute to remove/disable it. Large programming projects by pretty much any company are usually very well planned. Programmers are given a module, subroutine, sometimes even part of a subroutine and are told which global variables to use. Even if the translators were not programmers themselves (which is unlikely) and had to use a tool to edit the interface, it would make sense that the division that programmed the interface would compile a version without the button. So, we could either say that they screwed up, have bad programming practice, do not know how to organize a project properly, or have some mysterious reason for leaving the button there.  |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6332 days Last view: 6332 days |
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| Given Nintendo's history of leaving beta stuff in games/Japanese-only stuff in English versions (the Japanese dialogue is still available in English OoT), laziness and/or bad coding practices seems likely. Like I said, though, editing a bitmap and an array of points would be easier than recompiling the entire source, and less likely to break something which is very important in this scenario.
Or they could have left it in for people who buy English games but take them to Japan. |
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paulguy Paragoomba Since: 06-29-06 Last post: 6345 days Last view: 6332 days |
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| uh, it worked on my DS lite before I flashme'd but now it doesn't so I'm thinking that it's in the firmware... I'm probably just doing it wrong all of the sudden, though. | |||
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6332 days Last view: 6332 days |
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| It's built into the games, not the firmware, and it worked fine with FlashMe for me. |
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