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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - General Chat - There are now 8 planets in the solar system (we blew up Pluto) |
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sandrocklq Red Cheep-cheep                    Since: 07-31-06 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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It won't be official until its voted on Thursday, but if the vote passes, then there will be 12 planets. Charon, which is now considered a moon of Pluto, would be one. Ceres, which was originally thought to be a planet, then changed to an asteroid, would become a planet again. The newly discovered UB313(also known as Xena) would also become a planet. Ultimately this all boils down to semantics. Calling something a planet, mmon, or Kuiper Belt object really doesn't change the fact that it's there, but this news has got a few people riled up. I'm sure the book publishers will be perfectly happy to publish new editions for college students. Great way for them to refuse to take back used copies of old editions, although they'd do that anyway. Any other astronomy buffs out there care about this? |
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||bass Administrator   Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| The reverse is far FAR more likley. The MUCH more probably outcome of the conference is that there will soon be 8 planets, as allowing in Pluto allows in far too much else. They're probably going to scrap Pluto's planet classification. | |||
Prince Kassad   320 As you wish.  Since: 06-30-06 From: nowhere Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| I think the solar system will remain as is, because we recognized these 9 planets as being part of it back then and will do so until today. | |||
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sandrocklq Red Cheep-cheep Since: 07-31-06 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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| I'm not going to presume to know which way they are going to vote, but in the end this is all about classification. Whether or not Pluto remains a planet doesn't affect anything in the grand scheme of things other than textbooks and publications that have to classify it.
It's also neat that Charon and Pluto actually orbit a point in space. Charon was only thought to be a moon because it was smaller than Pluto, but not by much. |
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Zekie Since: 07-05-06 Last post: 6478 days Last view: 6478 days |
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| well actualy there could be more then 50 new planets in the solar system. Now scientists are debating on if pluto even matches the requirements of a planet. If they vote that pluto is a planet then they will have to add other planets they found that are like pluto, in example- The new founded planet Xena | |||
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero  Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6293 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| They tried to revoke Pluto's planetness, like, 20 years ago, didn't they? I thought they decided that it was since it was so popularly thought of as such and because it had a moon. | |||
FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos  Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6293 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| People have debated that Pluto is too small to be a planet. It's popularly thought of one mainly because it was large and visible in a telescope in the 1930s; now other Kuiper Belt objects around the size of Pluto have been discovered, but are generally brushed aside because it's so small.
I also find it funny people use the word "official" as if we're forced to think one way or another about astronomy. Honestly, textbooks today sometimes leave out Pluto as being a planet and instead list the other eight as the only planets. |
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sandrocklq Red Cheep-cheep Since: 07-31-06 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS + That's pretty sad. As far as I know the scientific community has considered Pluto a planet since the 1930s, although it has been up for debate a couple of times. This debate heated up when they discovered Xena, which is actually larger then Pluto, but its further out. |
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Disruptive Idiot Red Paragoomba Since: 11-17-05 From: Syosset Last post: 6421 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| The new plan is actually very sensible. There is no scientific basis of classifying an object as a planet that isn't already incorporated into the new definition.
One of the key things about classifying planets is how they're formed, and that's why the plutons differentiated from the major planets, they were formed differently. For all intents and purposes there will still be 9 planets that matter. The plutons are practically a class of their own but still are identical to planets except in typical size and formation. Ceres is visible with binoculars =p
Those textbooks should take a hint and follow international convention. It's like defining the meter as the sum of the length of the chickens you can lay end to end from a gas station in San Antonio to greenland. |
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Snow Tomato Snap Dragon  Since: 12-31-05 From: NYC Last post: 6314 days Last view: 6300 days |
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| I don't really care if they call it a planet or not. It's still there.. isn't it? As long as you still teach that it's there.. and about it's composition.. I don't see the problem. The label doesn't really matter. | |||
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sandrocklq Red Cheep-cheep Since: 07-31-06 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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| That's the general point. No matter what you call these things, they are still there and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. The best part about the new definition is that it means if you are dedicated enough, there's a halfway decent chance you could discover a planet in the Kuiper Belt. | |||
Hiryuu Sword Maiden Retired Admin  Since: 11-17-05 From: Nerima District - Tokyo, Japan Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| I think ||bass got it right. According to that link, they voted Pluto out.
Planetary Survivor. Yum. |
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sandrocklq Red Cheep-cheep Since: 07-31-06 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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| Indeeed. Apparently astronomers worldwide through a hissy fit about the new definition so they are going to demote Pluto and just have 8 planets. Good call ||bass.
Not that it makes that much of a difference. Now Pluto is just going to be called a dwarf planet. |
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Kattwah Acro RIP Acmlm's Board: Feb. 18 2007  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6293 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| Breaking News:
Pluto = Not planet. Thousands of textbooks now to be rewritten. Funny how my band teacher was actually the one that told me this. (She has this website notifier thing that emailed her, and she is a frequent email checker)  (edited by King Kattwah on 08-24-06 07:49 PM) |
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SuperLuigi64 Snifit  Since: 07-22-06 From: TN My PC Specs Last post: 6388 days Last view: 6388 days |
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| Textbooks gone...............
....yes. I figured if anything happened, Pluto was screwed. I knew they were not going to add planets. Most of these dwarfs ares in the Keiper (don't know if that's right) Belt objects. (edited by SuperLuigi64 on 08-24-06 09:58 PM) |
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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I'm going to be a rebel and refer to Pluto as a planet anyways. 
5 years from now, I bet that you could do a survey and most people will say Pluto is a planet. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6293 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| Pluto is still technically a planet. However its new classification makes it a DWARF planet rather than a classical planet. You can keep your old text book. Its not going to cause a massive economic back lash if a kid doesn't know that there are technically more than a dozen planets and only 8 classical planets. | |||
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Cynthia Uh-huh. Since: 11-17-05 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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But the term "dwarf planet" makes Pluto sound retarded.  |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6293 days Last view: 6293 days |
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| It always was. | |||
emcee Red Super Koopa Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6293 days |
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Originally posted by Sexy Emperor Colin Given that recent surveys have found most people can name more of the Seven Dwarfs then US Supreme Court justices, more of The Three Stooges then branches of government, and can't point out Iraq on a map, I think most people would answer "Mickey Mouse's dog". |
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