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Cadohacan Since: 05-21-06 From: NY Last post: 6545 days Last view: 6545 days |
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http://digg.com/general_sciences/Perpetual_Motion_secrets_revealed_good_bye_gas_prices | |||
NSNick Gohma IF ALL ELSE FAILS USE BOOZE Since: 11-17-05 From: Last post: 6432 days Last view: 6432 days |
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It won't work. | |||
KeiiChi Kun Leever Learn some manners. Password changed to gibberish and IP banned. Since: 01-01-06 From: Sushi Bar Last post: 6443 days Last view: 6443 days |
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What a load of bull. And how annoying having to scroll through all the crap that guy goes on about. | |||
sandrocklq Red Cheep-cheep Since: 07-31-06 Last post: 6568 days Last view: 6568 days |
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I'm reminded of homer berating Lisa about obeying the laws of thermodynamics or something. | |||
Guy Perfect Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6432 days Last view: 6431 days |
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Pendulums on clocks go on forever. It just takes two magnets and a little gravity.
Then again, some clocks require to be wound up. Just stick a big key in the back of your car and crank it until the tension is good for some 20 miles. |
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Sukasa Birdo Not quite as active as before. Xkeeper supporter Xk > ||bass I IP Banned myself! Twice! Since: 11-17-05 From: Somewhere over there Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6430 days |
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I could see that sorta working with a few adjustments... Just make the top magnet larger and stringer, and have the small bar magnets arranges so that they are pulled up by the large magnet on one end, and shoved down on the other, and then have the fan be changed to a rotary disc that's not gogn to be fighting the wind. | |||
Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6437 days Last view: 6430 days |
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Nonsense. Amateur, naive nonsense. How exactly is the whole "friction" thing avoided?
Sukasa: Things like that exist already. You can buy them at novelty stores. They're kind of amusing, but... Definitely not perpetual motion by any stretch. And not worth the money, either, unless you want to convince a bunch of kids that you've unlocked the mysteries of the universe (they don't have enough attention span to watch them wind down). |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6432 days Last view: 6430 days |
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Along the same lines as what shreename said. This is complete amateurish bullshit that's been constructed with a 6th grade mentality about science.
Remember, there's a HUGE difference between running a very long time by itself (never actually forever) and having to do actual WORK. Remember, forget friction, the whole point is to actually POWER something. For that to happen, the thing would have to be constantly GAINING energy. Not only would it have to run forever which is impossible, if left with no physical load, it would have to actually get FASTER over time with no input work. There is absoloutly no way to ever ever ever build a perpetual motion machine. Period. The output energy of a machine will ALWAYS be less than input energy. (Do not confuse this with the economic concept of work/energy ratio.) |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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If it did work, gas companies would ensure he didn't live long enough to publish it online. I've seen a number of machines that supposedly pulled energy from unknown sources given only a small initial charge (stick a 9-volt battery in and it powers your house for a few months), that were all rejected as not working because the tests were intentionally done wrong. Whether this is true is anyone's guess, but you know that's what would happen to any such machine that does work. (edited by HyperHacker on 08-18-06 05:14 PM) |
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emcee Red Super Koopa Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6430 days |
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People don't seem to understand that perpetual motion machines aren't considered impossible because no ones came up with one yet. They're considered impossible because the contradict fundamental laws of physics. There's a huge difference between converting between kinetic and potential energy and actually creating new energy, which is what is nessicary to create perpetual motion machine.
People just keep wasting time and money on them anyway. Because they figure they'll change the world by creating an indepletable source of energy. Even though we clearly already have an indepletable source of energy. Atleast for the next 5 billion years. |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6432 days Last view: 6430 days |
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There is no "if it did work". They CANNOT work, end of story. It's as simple as that. Perpetual motion violates the conservation of mass/energy as well as the laws of thermodynamics. Perpetual motion is absoloutely positively 150% NOT POSSIBLE. | |||
FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6430 days Last view: 6430 days |
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One more reason to never listen to digg.com ... a bunch of losers who post rumors and 6th grade ideas as fact.
Am I the only one that finds it funny he attempts to put restrictions under copyright law on the work at the same time as he claims it is public domain? |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6431 days Last view: 6431 days |
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Obviously "if it did work" implies "if it were possible". | |||
l0rca Since: 07-23-06 Last post: 6510 days Last view: 6452 days |
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"Captain! We're nearing sales!"
"Bravo Ensign, you're going to be paid well for this." "'Lo sir, off the starboard, we're getting roll!" "What is this, that it is?" "Captain! The Boson mates are rallying the seaman! We've terribly upset them this time!" "What? Tell them to get back to work!" "Captain, they're revolting! The Enginmen have abandoned their posts! Fires are rapid!" "Fires, Ensign?!" "Captain, the fermion fighters say they can't be bothered!" "Christ, they're supposed to be free energy... ugh! We're sinking Ensign! Cling to me!" (edited by l0rca on 08-19-06 02:28 PM) |
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Xkeeper Took the board down in a blaze of glory, only to reveal how truly moronical ||bass is. Since: 11-17-05 From: Henderson, Nevada Last post: 6430 days Last view: 6430 days |
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l0rca, what the fuck | |||
Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6437 days Last view: 6430 days |
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I think it made about as much sense as could be requested for a thread such as this. Otherwise, I just have to say... the word is "boatswain", not "boson".
As for the whole "gas company destroying other energy source" idea... Wouldn't they be the first to jump on? Anything to make them seem generous would probably be considered a good business move, as well as the fact that the market would be almost untapped at that point. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6430 days Last view: 6430 days |
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Originally posted by Skreename WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? |
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Disruptive Idiot Red Paragoomba Since: 11-17-05 From: Syosset Last post: 6558 days Last view: 6430 days |
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Originally posted by Xkeeper Particle physics <3 |
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l0rca Since: 07-23-06 Last post: 6510 days Last view: 6452 days |
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Originally posted by Skreename Sorry about the esotericism. I'm in love with physics. I want to have its 11 dimensional children. *drool* And to stick up for myself, I'm actually a Hospital Corpsman. |
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Jilkon Cappy Since: 11-27-05 From: Teh Sweden Last post: 6512 days Last view: 6460 days |
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Although perpetual motion isn't something I believe in or really think is even necessary, I do believe in new fuel types. There's lots of stuff that can be done theoretically but isn't worth it at the moment. I'd like to see Fusion Reactors become reality and maybe even Cold Fusion (although that's more of a dream). |
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