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Alastor
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Posted on 08-17-06 06:02 PM Link | Quote
Okay, For about nine months now, I've been running on a pretty low-end Dell laptop (Latitude something, pretty crappy). This morning, I dunno, it was just getting really screwed up. I try to open Opera and it freezes. No way to do anything, so I have to manually power it down. Okay, that's unusual... It probably got corrupted somehow. Update Opera, it still happens. Uninstall and reinstall Opera, and it still happens. It is at this time I have to wonder if the drive got dirty from the sand that got into it, as that seems the most likely explanation at this point due to my fantastic ignorance of computers in general (and yet, sadly, I am the most knowledgable of everyone I know in real life. Hmm.). This time when booting it up it says there was a problem shutting it down (Yeah, I think I knew that) and goes to chkdsk. Says the drive is dirty. Yeah, I figured as much.

Lacking anything better to do, I decide to do basic maintenance on completely unrelated things since I don't know enough to fix the problem. I start a defrag even though that doesn't make much sense, won't solve any problems, and. Eh. Comp crashes. I run chkdsk, and apparently there were many, many files corrupted, and the security IDs for at least 50,000 files had to be rewritten. That gets done and it boots into Windows and there's no bloody start menu and when I try to open Opera through the desktop shortcut I haven't deleted since I just installed it again, it freezes. Again. Yay! So now windows is broken, too. I think chkdsk rewriting so many things totally screwed it up. I could reinstall, but that wouldn't fix the main problem, I don't think.

I probably need a new hard drive. Therefore I am at an impasse. I believe my move is to call the idiots at Dell and get them to send a hard drive and the necessary software my way so I can install Windows again and go about as if nothing ever happened. However, I wanted to run it by the people here who know what they're doing just to make sure that this move is in any way sane. Another option would be to purposefully get it to run as inefficiently as possible with what I have left, set it in a horridly unsafe environment, and try to get it to explode; I hear Dell laptops are prone to doing that.


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SuperLuigi64

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Posted on 08-17-06 09:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish
Okay, For about nine months now, I've been running on a pretty low-end Dell laptop (Latitude something, pretty crappy). This morning, I dunno, it was just getting really screwed up. I try to open Opera and it freezes. No way to do anything, so I have to manually power it down. Okay, that's unusual... It probably got corrupted somehow. Update Opera, it still happens. Uninstall and reinstall Opera, and it still happens. It is at this time I have to wonder if the drive got dirty from the sand that got into it, as that seems the most likely explanation at this point due to my fantastic ignorance of computers in general (and yet, sadly, I am the most knowledgable of everyone I know in real life. Hmm.). This time when booting it up it says there was a problem shutting it down (Yeah, I think I knew that) and goes to chkdsk. Says the drive is dirty. Yeah, I figured as much.

Lacking anything better to do, I decide to do basic maintenance on completely unrelated things since I don't know enough to fix the problem. I start a defrag even though that doesn't make much sense, won't solve any problems, and. Eh. Comp crashes. I run chkdsk, and apparently there were many, many files corrupted, and the security IDs for at least 50,000 files had to be rewritten. That gets done and it boots into Windows and there's no bloody start menu and when I try to open Opera through the desktop shortcut I haven't deleted since I just installed it again, it freezes. Again. Yay! So now windows is broken, too. I think chkdsk rewriting so many things totally screwed it up. I could reinstall, but that wouldn't fix the main problem, I don't think.

I probably need a new hard drive. Therefore I am at an impasse. I believe my move is to call the idiots at Dell and get them to send a hard drive and the necessary software my way so I can install Windows again and go about as if nothing ever happened. However, I wanted to run it by the people here who know what they're doing just to make sure that this move is in any way sane. Another option would be to purposefully get it to run as inefficiently as possible with what I have left, set it in a horridly unsafe environment, and try to get it to explode; I hear Dell laptops are prone to doing that.


I had this on my old (I'm talking stone age) Gateway desktop, without the sand part, and IE instead of Oprea.

Have you tried IE, or do you have it on your computer?
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Posted on 08-17-06 10:40 PM Link | Quote
I find it ironic that sand would cause problems... because computers are just glorified buckets of sand.

But... hm... I'd try a complete reinstall of Windows if I were you... you could of chkdsk could of just deleted some files and caused some dependency hell for you. I think I remember having problems once with the start menu not showing up.... can't quite remember how I fixed that (being I haven't run Windows on a box for a while).

In any case, good luck with the low-end Dell latitude, my gf has one and that thing freezes all the time. Granted hers has a Celeron processor.

And the fact that he uses Opera probably says that he's at least smart enough to stay away from IE.
HyperHacker

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 08-18-06 04:29 AM Link | Quote
Heh, you spilled sand in it, of course the disk is dirty. *shot*

A new hard drive would probably do some good (as well as taking it apart and cleaning it all out), but you might want to consider a whole new system.
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Posted on 08-18-06 10:28 PM Link | Quote
meh, don't try servicing a laptop yourself. They're impossible to get apart and once you do that, good luck getting it all back together.
Alastor
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-19-06 12:44 AM Link | Quote
...

I don't know who you are, and your advice seems contrary to logic and past experience. I especially like the impossible to get apart thing - wtf, you just take the screws out
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Posted on 08-19-06 01:39 AM Link | Quote
Try opening any Nintendo system without reverting to the grinder
Alastor
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Posted on 08-19-06 02:33 AM Link | Quote
It's not a Nintendo-brand laptop, though...
HyperHacker

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Posted on 08-19-06 03:51 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by FreeDOS +
Try opening any Nintendo system without reverting to the grinder

Does NES count? Because those are easy to open.
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Posted on 08-19-06 08:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Originally posted by FreeDOS +
Try opening any Nintendo system without reverting to the grinder

Does NES count? Because those are easy to open.

Might be, but I had to use violence to get the screws out of my SNES. As in drilling and such. I've seen screwdrivers for those screws in a couple of webshops though.

As for the laptop, if you have the money, get a new one.
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Posted on 08-20-06 12:52 AM Link | Quote
You might want to run some memory diagnostics (like Memtest 86), too, before you tell Dell to send you a new hard drive, just to make sure that's the drive's really the (only) problem.
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