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Rydain

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 07-23-06 07:48 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ziffhasnoaim/password
This thread is the big question...why?

Why are some people so mentally retarded about certain consoles? I don't understand their connection to a company that would piss on their grandmother's grave if it meant they could make some money...Why are fanboys so rabid?
Because you're only allowed to like something if everyone else does. Didn't you get the memo?

In all seriousness, there's a basic human instinct to win that often manifests itself in silly and pointless ways, and this is one of them. If you like the most popular console, you're on the winning team. Conversely, if your favorite console isn't doing as well in sales, you lose. I can't find a source for this, but I read a while ago that it has been demonstrated that people will buy the #1 brand of some product just because it is #1. If this is the case, it would not surprise me at all.
Ailure

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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 07-23-06 11:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Originally posted by Racer Xeo
"Microsoft sucks all they want is moneyyyyyyyyyy!"


What I am amazed at is the number of people who whine about Microsoft being in it for the money, who somehow believe that Nintendo and Sony aren't.
The huge monopoly with programs on X86 computers might be a factor. There's a reason why Microsoft got in trouble with EU. (There's less lobbying here as far I know)

I also don't like Sony, but not for their console. I have my other reasons to not like a such company, the rootkit piracy protection anyone?

Then, both Microsoft and Sony aren't in a good position. Microsoft stocks are about the same since year 2000 or so apparently and Sony is making big losses in average.

And Nintendo isn't pure good either, they abused their monopoly position in the start of the 90's, and started to get a bit arrogant. Sony seems to repeat that mistake with this generation.


(edited by Ailure on 07-23-06 10:32 AM)
HyperHacker

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Since: 11-18-05
From: Canada, w00t!
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Posted on 07-23-06 04:56 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by neotransotaku
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
Money is most important, but a good corporation might make some small sacrifices to make people happy.
I'd like to see examples in the video game industry...

I honestly doubt it actually has happened. Just saying someone might do that. But like I said, keeping your customers happy is important to making money, so you might consider any time a company changes their mind about something because of customer demand (EG Microsoft continuing to support Windows 98 until now when they wanted to drop it 4 years ago) as a sort of example.


Originally posted by HyperMackerel
People don't like to buy from companies they don't like, that's why I don't buy Sony products anymore.
That statement is legit iff you were not satisfied by the products produced by the company when you used their services. Otherwise, it is bigotry to diss a company whose services you've never used. But I recall you had a playstation, did you not? so it is okay coming from you.

Yeah, I have a PSX and PS2 and a bunch of games for both. The incredibly poor durability of the PS2 was a signifigant part of my decision, but it was that whole rootkit deal that convinced me to just stop buying from them at all. It made it very clear that these people don't care about their customers at all; not just that they put it there, but that the only way to have it removed was another invasive program that opened up gaping security holes, and the only way to get it was to give them your email which (they even stated on the site) would then be spammed.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 07-23-06 06:57 PM Link | Quote
This root kit business is related to their audio CDs... not their video games no? To boycott sony media I can understand, but the hardware such as CD players, TVs, and what not? Why?
Cynthia

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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 07-23-06 07:13 PM Link | Quote
Sony comes off as extremely arrogant in their quotes. It's not exactly the right message to be sending to the general consumer base.
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Posted on 07-23-06 08:36 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin
Sony comes off as extremely arrogant in their quotes. It's not exactly the right message to be sending to the general consumer base.


Indeed. The best one I heard during E3 or something around there was "The Next Generation of gaming starts when we say it starts!"




(edited by Racer Xeo on 07-23-06 07:36 PM)
(edited by Racer Xeo on 07-23-06 07:36 PM)
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Posted on 07-23-06 09:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by neotransotaku
This root kit business is related to their audio CDs... not their video games no? To boycott sony media I can understand, but the hardware such as CD players, TVs, and what not? Why?

That, I believe, has already been addressed by Shadic.
Originally posted by Shadic
While it's an entirely different section of the company (Well, for now, give it 10 years..) they sheer fact that this had to have been approved by some higher-ups just pisses me off.
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Posted on 07-23-06 09:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by neotransotaku
This root kit business is related to their audio CDs... not their video games no? To boycott sony media I can understand, but the hardware such as CD players, TVs, and what not? Why?

Does it really matter? Do you really want to support a company that has shady practices? Sure, they have different branches that do different things and no one here is ignorant enough to think otherwise. But the fact remains, do you want to support a company through any means that pulls crap like that on people?

And besides, Sony hasn't been known for the greatest in quality hardware. Just look at the first few versions of the PS and the PS2 for an example of this.. I mean, it isn't like this is an isolated case and someone is poking at a molehill and trying to make it into a mountain, rather actually it is a mountain to begin with. Sony's practices and their poor choice of attitude to customers have given me a distaste for them entirely as of late..


(edited by Cara Zeltina on 07-23-06 08:50 PM)
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 07-23-06 10:26 PM Link | Quote
Well, to be fair Sony were the ones tossing around the idea that a PS3 game could only be played on one system, getting rid of the rental/used game markets.
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Posted on 07-24-06 04:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rydain
but I read a while ago that it has been demonstrated that people will buy the #1 brand of some product just because it is #1.
Read: Flavor of the month syndrome. There is a more technical term, but this is an actual, and common, psychological phenomenon. Look at most MMO's for good examples.

Originally posted by Cara Zeltina
And besides, Sony hasn't been known for the greatest in quality hardware.
This can actually be said of almost ever console except most of Nintendo's. Nintendo has made it an uncommon practice to make thier systems built like goddam rocks. How many times have you heard of people having destroyed/burned SNES's or Gameboys, and they STILL work, the game is simply fused into place now. Hell, I've had it happen to my SNES. (Which thankfully Earthbound was fused to it, which I'd play excessively.)

Sega did it too, as does Microsoft now. Only time Sega didn't cheap out on a system was the Dreamcast, which is the only system I will ever fanboy myself out. (To this day I mourn the lose of the Dreamcast, my PS2 wishes it were as cool.)

From a real standpoint, fanboys are just, well, fanboys I guess. I know you shouldn't define the word you're using with itself, but in this case it works so well. The rest of us with brains to decide what we want will do just that. I'll be buying all three 'Next-gen' systems, just some are higher priority than others.
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Posted on 07-24-06 05:26 PM Link | Quote
fanboy (n., xtionary)

one who is a fan of a particular product or practice with little legitimate reason; one who claims that their product or practice is significantly better than all others without any proof or factual backup


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Ogre

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Posted on 07-24-06 06:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
fanboy (n., xtionary)

one who is a fan of a particular product or practice with little legitimate reason; one who claims that their product or practice is significantly better than all others without any proof or factual backup


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Eat a dick. =o
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Since: 11-21-05
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Posted on 07-24-06 06:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
fanboy (n., xtionary)

one who is a fan of a particular product or practice with little legitimate reason; one who claims that their product or practice is significantly better than all others without any proof or factual backup


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racist (n., ktionary)

one who believes their race is superior with little legitimate reason; one whoe claims their race is significantly better than all others without and proof or factual backup

It's sad really...
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