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Ogre Paragoomba                    Since: 07-12-06 Last post: 6400 days Last view: 6400 days |
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| As in, villians that had a good background and drive to whatever they were trying to do. From the FF thread I'm having a crisis of faith as I can think of one really well explained villain. Looking for someone with either an odd reason driving them to evil, or just a well laid out use of evil.(Like how manipultive Seymour was in FF10)
The only really good villian I could think of was Luc from Suikoden 3. This is partially because you know so much about him already and his power, and partially because his drive to commit the crimes he does is simply so he can use other True Runes to end his life. No power hunger, no urge to wreck the world, just a need to die. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin   Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| I always thought Fou-Lu was pretty cool in Breath of Fire IV. I loved how Capcom worked with him, letting -you- control him at times and see things his ways. I also thought the part where you were at the village with him (some girl rescued him maybe? Its been years ...) somewhat showed a good example of "There really isn't a good or evil, just different ideals on how things should be done" ... if that makes sense?
Other than that, nobody with strong development really comes to mind. I'd again say Luca Blight, but there isn't really a complex character there. He was just insane. |
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Dr_Death16   970 Since: 05-07-06 From: Iowa Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| Lavos, from Chrono Trigger, is a great final enemy. He manipulated evolution on Earth to help further his own evolution. I don't know if he's really the prototypical
"villain", but his motivation is elementary; he exists to be parasitical deep within the planet, sucking its energy, and then rises from within to destroy all life on the planet. And the kicker is that it multiplies and its spawn travel to other planets to do the same thing. Makes a lot of sense, really, it doesn't destroy because its insane, or wants revenge, or hates the world, its just doing what it has to, to carry on its species. |
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Amanda Red Paratroopa Since: 03-13-06 From: Georgia Last post: 6352 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Luca Blight from Suikoden II.
One of THE best games ever. I'm so glad I bought it. And oh god, Luca Blight is crazy evil!  |
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Ogre Paragoomba Since: 07-12-06 Last post: 6400 days Last view: 6400 days |
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| Lavos wasn't even really a villian as it was just THERE. Lavos was an overgrown parasitic organism. It didn't manipulate evolution, it effected it by it's very presence. It's like any modern day parasite, there is no motivation, just survival instincts, so Lavos is disqualified. =p
Fou-Lu is a decent answer, I did enjoy playing as him and taking his ending path instead. (Which I'll give Capcom bonus points for that brave ending choice) As for Luca...don't get me wrong, I liked Luca cause he was demonically powerful for a human, but we barely got to see what drove him other than sheer bloodlust. So I can't say Luca was a great villian, as much as I can say he was the king of VG psychopaths. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| I'd have to agree about Lavos. I mean its been forever since I played both Trigger and Cross, but who even sent Lavos? It was just like, he was sent to bring about some apochlypse to that world within time.
Magus seemed to have more plot and development, even if he ended up joining you. At first he really seemed like the main villian, and he had a goal he set for. But now that I think about it, I can't remember if there was any past development with him either. |
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witeasprinwow Since: 12-29-05 Last post: 6418 days Last view: 6418 days |
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| God, this is a hard one.
I sorta liked that guy from the first Lunar, I forget his name. He wasn't just crazy, he had some social-political motive. Spoiler: He wanted to brink back the goddess in order for her to rule over the people with her divine wisdom/power, giving them "guidance" and all and destroying those who didn't cooperate. Of course, they sorta ruined him at the VERY end of the game, by having him act out of character... He talks like a stereotypical "evil villian" instead of the character that they had built up over the course of the game. |
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by witeasprinwow I know exactly who you're talking about but also can't think of his name for the life of me ... 
I didn't like how he turned out in 2. He was controlled, and almost seemed worthless. Also folks, how about Dr. Wily!? 
... But really, Vile was a pretty cool villian in the Megaman games.  |
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witeasprinwow Since: 12-29-05 Last post: 6418 days Last view: 6418 days |
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Originally posted by Racer Xeo Just remembered it! Spoiler: Ghaleon |
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Dr_Death16 970 Since: 05-07-06 From: Iowa Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| You guys didn't pay enough attention during the game. Lavos was not sent by anyone, it was a living parasite, whose purpose in life was to slam into a planet, burrow deep within (similar to an egg and sperm ) and from there sleep for millions of years while, yes, CONTROLLING evolution for his own purposes, in order to make itself the ultimate being from the DNA of every creature on the planet. Once that happened, he destroys the life of the planet, rises to the surface, and multiplies while reigning supreme. And the spawn grow large on this planet, and fly off to destroy their own worlds. It is just a good villain because I remember really, really wanted that fucker dead.
And for the record, Magus is the better villain for the first half of the game, the subplot with him and Glenn/Frog is awesome and really helps make the game what it is. Not to mention the battle with him is really a good one. His whole story is well crafted, but by the end you really don't want him dead at all, you want him killing your enemies with you, so I really don't know if I'd say he's 100% villain. |
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Ogre Paragoomba Since: 07-12-06 Last post: 6400 days Last view: 6400 days |
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| It's purpose wasn't to hit just Earth and eat it up, it was just a big parasite and HAPPENED to land on Earth. And play it again, (Cross too for more info) Lavos wasn't controlling anything, his presence effected evolution but only because it was taking life and DNA from everything. The process of launching his brood to other planets caused the destructive rain of fire that ruined the Earth. If you remember, once he fired off his spawn, he then ceased to live on for much longer. | |||
Celice Gordo  Since: 11-17-05 From: Oroville, CA Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6310 days |
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| Orsted, from Live-A-Live. He wasn't really a villian, but he played out to be a great hero-gone-wrong, especially what led up to it.
You want a villian that makes no sense, look at ExDeath from FFV. I think EVERYONE's bette than that crap from the hat. |
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Amanda Red Paratroopa Since: 03-13-06 From: Georgia Last post: 6352 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Luca's mom was assaulted and raped, and his father ran away. Luca eludes to this slightly when later on in the game. | |||
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Xeo Belmont Wiiiiiiiiiiiiin Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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Originally posted by Celice Honestly, I thought the entire cast of characters and the plot itself in FFV was so goofy ... it was funny. Still a somewhat decent game though. 
Originally posted by Amanda I forgot about this, but this is true. I remember someone mentioning this in the game. Anyways, after giving a little more thought into this, Albedo came to my mind from the Xenosaga games. Say what you will about those games (I honestly thought the first one was pretty great), Albedo does have a good chunk of development. Largely thanks to the flashbacks in Episode II revolved around him, Jr, and that other guy. He had that Kefka-like persona also, but a lot more development. Those parts in Episode II were definitely the most interesting, aside from that ... Episode II was just very lacking in my opinion. |
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Glyphodon Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6350 days Last view: 6331 days |
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Originally posted by Celice Just because he killed everybody and turned into a giant face of plants doesn't mean he's a villian, huh? I would have liked to see some spoiler tags on that because that chapter ruled and it just wouldn't be the same if you knew what was going to happen beforehand. |
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Celice Gordo Since: 11-17-05 From: Oroville, CA Last post: 6313 days Last view: 6310 days |
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| Well, how can I go into this without spoilers...
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He wasn't evil persay. But, I'd think if you were basically branded for everything gone wrong, lost your gal, ended watching your gal, who was with your FRIEND, kill herself, yeah, I'd be pissed and go bad. But he wasn't a villian before that, so myself, I don't consider him one. Unlike Kefka or Sephiroth or whomever, where most simply are asses. Orsted just got the shit-end of the stick, so to say. So much for my explanation >.> (edited by Celice on 07-18-06 01:27 AM) |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6351 days Last view: 6351 days |
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| Mid-Boss of Disgaea. By far the best I can think of. | |||
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Ogre Paragoomba Since: 07-12-06 Last post: 6400 days Last view: 6400 days |
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| Vyer's was cool, but a villian he really was not. He was just...there. As for Luca, I remember the part about his mother, but he's still not explained enough. Which is a shame, because his lust for carnage was cool in a way.
Now, Albedo, HE was batshit insane. Gotta love any character that can tear thier own head of, and stomp it into dust to scare someone. |
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Amanda Red Paratroopa Since: 03-13-06 From: Georgia Last post: 6352 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by Ogre Yeah, when I got there I was like "WHAT.THE.FUCK" and it was weird. XD Really heavily scared me. XD (edited by Amanda on 07-20-06 06:41 PM) |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6309 days Last view: 6309 days |
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| I think one of the best villains ever had to be....
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Delita, from FFTactics. But you didn't hear that one from me. Good runners up are the Turks, just for being so damn awesome. |
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