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ShadowSonic Red Goomba                 Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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| I saw this video that showed budokai 3 but had budokai 2 things in it. They said they, I think, put the 2 discs into a PC, took data from Budokai 2 into Budokai 3 carefully to make it work. When I saw the video it was pretty funny but I'm wondering if anyone actually knows how to hack Budokai 3 as in putting in different coding from Budokai 2 or even 1. | |||
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Deleted User Banned      Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6298 days |
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| Give us a link, sir. | |||
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ShadowSonic Red Goomba Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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| http://youtube.com/watch?v=iiAXDKiO_cw
That's the video then read the comments below. |
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Koneko Plasma Whisp   Since: 11-17-05 From: Tartarus. We get faster internet than you. Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I've never heard of photoshop.
No, sir. |
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ShadowSonic Red Goomba Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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Originally posted by Koneko What are you suggesting? |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| He would be suggesting that it's a faked video. That they didn't actually do that, merely alter the video to make it look like they did. | |||
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ShadowSonic Red Goomba Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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| Well they must have done a very good job of making that fake video. I can point out somethings that would prove it's real.
1.) In the first scene it's Babidi (the orange small guy) and Gotenk's Kamikaze ghost fighting in a B3 (Budokai 3) stage. Though this can be done using AR or CB codes to change the models in the fight to those two be seems to be very hard to crack since there is no codes for model changes. 2.) After the scene were it shows the tournament stage from B2 (Budokai 2) it shows Frieza's Son/Daughter model from the Japanese version fighting Kid Goku. That model was in Budokai 2 but he is fighting Kid Goku in a B3 stage. To point out, that Son or Daughter model was actually replaced by Cooler from the B3 game to be available, hence the voice for him/her. 3.) Next it shows Majin Cell fighting Bulma. That Bulma model was in the training mode of B3. But the Majin Cell is from B2. 4.) Then in the next scene it shows Majin Frieza fighting Gokule. Gokule was in B2 and so was Majin Frieza but they are fighting in a B3 tournament stage. 5.) In the next scene it shows Buu absorbing Gohan, nothing unusual I find about it though. 6.) Next it shows Goku throwing a Potara earing to Vegeta. This is only in B3. Then it shows them fused together as Vegito or Gogeta (i mix up which are which) which the B2 model because in the B3 it's a different costume and also they are always Super Saiyan when they fuse in B3. 7.) After that it shows a split screen of Goku and Vegeta doing the fusion dance. They are inside Buu's body, which is the stage only in B3. Now when they fuse, they replaced the Vegito or Gojita model with the model of Tiencha (a Tien and Yamcha fusion only in B2). 8.) Ok so now in the next part it shows Frieze fighting Kid Gohan in his chair, which can actually be done by using AR/CB codes but, again, aren't documented codes to be found yet. 9.) Right, so now in the next scene it shows that Frieza Son/Daughter model from the version of B2 powering up and transforming into it's final form. Then it shows him/her using the ultimate death move against Goku. 10.) Then in the next scene it shows Tiencha using his ultimate move against Adult Gohan in a B3 stage. So it's B3 A. Gohan verses Tiencha from B2 in a B3 stage. 11.) Finally it ends just by Goku using his Super Spirit Bomb move against Kid Buu. This was just used to end the video, nothing unusual about it. Ok, well if anyone would like to STILL say it's fake, go ahead but I got proof it isn't. |
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DarkSlaya   930 Gamma Ray  Since: 11-17-05 From: Montreal, Canada Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Some peple are incredibly good at faking stuff, you know. | |||
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Koneko Plasma Whisp Since: 11-17-05 From: Tartarus. We get faster internet than you. Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| What in that list of explanations (which may or may not be true; I have no idea myself, as I have never played either game) could not be achieved by dilligent frame-by-frame editing? Take a lot of screenshots and assemble the movie. It would take a long time but it's almost definitely possible.
On the other hand, the games might be similar enough and actually use the same format to hold their graphics and models for what you suggest to be possible, too. It seems to me that you just really wanted to believe that it was possible and you weren't considering the possibility that people would fake this kind of thing. It really could go either way. But once again, I'm not familiar with the Budokai series, so of course I would be of no assistance in attempting to duplicate those effects, if they are possible. |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| It would probably be decently easy to replace random models from one game with another... But that's not THAT impressive. I thought you were talking about having something, you know, BIG going on. (I'll admit that I didn't watch the video.)
(For instance, look at all of the random Phantasy Star Online action replay codes that swap arbitrary model 1 with arbitrary model 2. I've seen them specifically in that game; the filenames are rather obvious, I'd guess.) |
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ShadowSonic Red Goomba Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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Originally posted by Koneko If true, then they must have gotten the camera angles correct for some of the scenes to match it perfectly. Like for the 2nd to last part where Tiencha is doing his ultimate move. They would must have gotten those camera angles somehow actually in B3 to match the same angles as they have in B2. Originally posted by Skreename Well you should watch the video if you've played B2 and B3. Not only did they replace models from B2 to B3, they also replaced some stages from 2 to a 3. Sure that doesn't seem much but they also compied the moves the the people in B2 to B3 which should be quite alot on sidering the effects it does in the coding (camera angles, collision boxes, animations, etc...). |
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Skreename Giant Red Paratroopa Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I've never played any of them, so I wouldn't be able to tell one way or the other. Me watching the video wouldn't fix that problem too well. | |||
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ShadowSonic Red Goomba Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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Originally posted by Skreename True. I guess this would actually be more suited for people that actually have played B2 and B3. Play enough to know what's what and such. Otherwise this is somewhat pointless to them Budokailess people. On a different note, has anyone ever played House of the Dead 3 on the PC? I got it and was wondering if anyone has tried hacking with the graphics/textures in the game. I've tried but it never loads in the textures that I modify. The actual textures must be hidden somewhere else then what I'm modifiing. |
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Bane King Rope  Since: 11-22-05 Last post: 6343 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| Hmmmm...After little thought about it I have come to the conclusion that...
...it's a fake. Originally posted by shadowsonic First off don't start talking about an already iffy topic with an "They said they, I think, put the 2 discs into a PC, took data from Budokai 2 into Budokai 3 carefully to make it work." Either they did or photochoped the crap out of it. Second is that Budokai 3 is in 3 different languages and the video is choped so one segment is in JAP and the next shot of the same segment is in ENG. Just how many formats of the game are nesessary to compile such a hack? I mean, I know the US/C format has both ENG\JAP but what's the french version for? Unless someone is able to come up with some SOLID proof, it will be remembered as the video someone took along time to make. Much like the Mario 3 beat'n in like 9 mins. Which was fake BTW. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Originally posted by Bane King It wasn't fake, it was a tool-assisted speedrun. The player re-did scenes over and over until they were perfect, but he did do them. |
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FreeDOS + Giant Red Koopa Legion: freedos = fritos  Since: 11-17-05 From: Seattle Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by HyperMackerelOriginally posted by Bane King Well, I haven't seen any run of nine minutes, but the current record is 10:35, which is about 29 seconds faster than that famous Morimoto run everyone went ga-ga over in 2003. 
In other news: Is there any link to a real video? I hate Flash. |
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ShadowSonic Red Goomba Since: 11-20-05 From: Minnesota Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6440 days |
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Originally posted by Bane King The reason why I said, I think, was because I couldn't remember exactly what they wrote and I'm too lazy to go back and check. They have a topic on GameFAQs that somewhat explains how they did it.
They are using PAL or different people/person did different hacks on different versions of the game: USA, PAL, JAP and they just took what they did on the different versions and spliced it together in one video.
Does this count as any? http://foro.latrifuerza.com/viewtopic.php?t=1182&highlight=d%20ragon+ball+++budokai+++projecto It's in Spanish and I had Google try and translate but it's pretty crappy: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforo.latrifuerza.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D1182%26highlight%3Dd%2520ragon%2Bball%2B%2B%2Bbudokai%2B%2B%2Bprojecto&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools Then again I'm sure all of you looking at the screenshots will all be like "OMG it's not haxed itz all photoshopped U idiot!!!1111" I don't know what I'd need proof of. Hmm, the best would be hack it on my own. I would, seriously, but I'd need a mod chip, different versions of B2 and B3 (I could just download torrents I'm sure), a DVD burner, and of course a PS2. (edited by ShadowSonic on 06-15-06 12:42 AM) |
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DahrkDaiz Nipper Plant U wan hax Mario?!  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6298 days |
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Originally posted by Koneko Since when could photoshop edit videos? |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6298 days |
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| It could edit each frame if they were exported as still images. |
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