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NightKev

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Since: 05-13-06
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by S.N.N.
I'm gonna assume this one is finished, because I want to.

1. Top right of island...should be water tiles, not brown cliff tiles.
2. When the straight edge of the island up top meets the curve, it is misaligned.
3. Next to the 1 sign, the ladder and cliff to the right of it are cut off.
4. No detail again
5. Bottom right yellow level tile - the path just above it doesn't meet the level correctly..

But most of all..

6. This OW looks exactly like the old one.

If this is unfinished, then I understand. If it IS finished, it needs improvement.

1) I copy+paste it from the caverns, whatever they're called, so I got stuck with walls, dunno how to fix.
2) Oh...
3) Oops.
4) Well it's unfinished but...
5) I know, thats the best I can do at the moment.
6) Yeah, see #5.
Pac

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Posted on 05-27-06 07:13 PM Link | Quote


Pink = WTF?
Blue = WTF?
Cyan = WTF?
Indigo = WTF? Don't place two tiles right next to eachother.
Yellow = WTF?
Red = wow i luv teh mairo dat you ripped all by urself!!! ZOMG an u tel me how 2 maek that???//shift+forwardslash

< /sarcasm >

EDIT: SNN got there first? Damn, I took too long colourising my font. _¬


(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 06:15 PM)
NightKev

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"We have to enforce this, though. He needs no warning. The FAQ says spamming for syndrome = warning or ban, but man, he spammed BADLY... There's no way this shouldn't be ban-worthy." - someone less than smart, but more smart than you.


 





Since: 05-13-06
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:17 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Pac-Man
Pink = WTF?
Blue = WTF?
Cyan = WTF?
Indigo = WTF? Don't place two tiles right next to eachother.
Yellow = WTF?
Red = wow i luv teh mairo dat you ripped all by urself!!! ZOMG an u tel me how 2 maek that???//shift+forwardslash {/sarcasm}
EDIT: SNN got there first? Damn, I took too long colourising my font. _¬

Blue: See my post up above you.
Cyan: See "Blue"
Indigo: Uh, I can't modify where Mario starts so...
Yellow: Ignore that, I'll move it after I finish the OW.
Red: Bob/Phin said you let them use the SMB3 level stuff.
@Edit: Yes, yes you did.
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:22 PM Link | Quote
It's WAAAYYY too similar to the original. Did you know that you can *GASP* remove the Yellow Switch Mountain? Oh, the blandness!

Seriously, I don't know why so many people leave that god-damned mountain in their OWs. It's just not right!

You might want to add some more detail, like more of those smiley hills, or some trees, or something. Just, don't make it look so empty. And WTF is up with the tiles in the top right of the screen? There's land where there's supposed to be water.

There are a lot more inconsistencies with your OW, but since I'm too lazy to explain them all, I'll wait until Kyouji gets here so he can flame point them out more clearly.

Edit: Damn! SNN and Peter beat me to the punch


(edited by Cirvante on 05-27-06 06:23 PM)
(edited by Cirvante on 05-27-06 06:23 PM)
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:31 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightKev
Bob/Phin said you let them use the SMB3 level stuff.

No, I did not. But I'm talking to 10-year-olds here so what can I expect. _¬


(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 06:37 PM)
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightKev

Indigo: Uh, I can't modify where Mario starts so...



Yes you can. Enable the right mode in Lunar Magic and please RTFM. kthnx.


(edited by richyawyingtmv on 05-27-06 06:34 PM)
(edited by richyawyingtmv on 05-27-06 06:35 PM)
(edited by richyawyingtmv on 05-27-06 06:35 PM)
Cirvania

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I guess this is as close as Xkeeper will get to spell it right. :<


 





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Posted on 05-27-06 07:47 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Phinsfan's profile>Birthday
Thursday, September 21, 1995 (10 years old)

This explains so much...

Originally posted by richyawyingtmv
and please RTFM.

Seconded. Motion passes.
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Posted on 05-27-06 07:54 PM Link | Quote
I know I dont post or even hack that much, but I would never even consider releasing anything like this hack.The amount of effort put in is just...shocking? Considering 99% of this is other people's work, and the overworld looks like something someone did while drunk.

Ok. For a first attempt, the overall shocking bland-ness of this is not THAT bad. However, it's not good enough. Not by far, and not good enough for anyone to want to play.

Before posting any screenshots, make sure the work you are presenting is actually decent. Not something that looks like the original with many details missing after a bomb or something similar has destroyed half the paths on the map leaving a disjointed mess.

It's a pity...the SMW hacking scene used to be great. :|

EDIT - that new overworld IS an improvement, but it is still overly bland/similar to the original. And that hill looks...unfinished.


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(edited by richyawyingtmv on 05-27-06 06:55 PM)
NightKev

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"We have to enforce this, though. He needs no warning. The FAQ says spamming for syndrome = warning or ban, but man, he spammed BADLY... There's no way this shouldn't be ban-worthy." - someone less than smart, but more smart than you.


 





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Posted on 05-27-06 07:58 PM Link | Quote
The hack probably won't be released for a few months (if it's not scrapped by then), it's not like we're almost done lol.
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Posted on 05-27-06 08:00 PM Link | Quote


Pink = Ahhh! Glitch!
Cyan = Put a tile of land behind it!
Yellow = Just no, it looks horrible.

Seriously, put some god damn effort into it next time! We don't want to be shown this crap!


(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 07:02 PM)
(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 07:03 PM)
(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 07:11 PM)
Pac

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Posted on 05-27-06 08:33 PM Link | Quote
Know what? I'm not gonna bother saving this picture and circling your errors in pretty colours again, not because I'm too tired, but because you should be able to see yourself where yours errors lie. If you can't, you're either blind, or you don't belong in this forum. If you're not going to put some decent effort into your work, then don't put any effort in at all, and leave us with one less problem to deal with.


(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 07:35 PM)
(edited by Pac-Man on 05-27-06 07:36 PM)
Cirvania

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Posted on 05-27-06 08:35 PM Link | Quote
A definite improvement, but it still sucks.

The gap in the paths is not fixed. That red level does not have a secret exit. You still have not removed the Yellow Switch Mountain (which is still glitched BTW), two of the hills have land tops instead of water tops, and it is still too similar to the original.

Please do not post any more OW shots until you have fixed what Peter and me have stated in the above posts.
NightKev

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"We have to enforce this, though. He needs no warning. The FAQ says spamming for syndrome = warning or ban, but man, he spammed BADLY... There's no way this shouldn't be ban-worthy." - someone less than smart, but more smart than you.


 





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Posted on 05-27-06 08:37 PM Link | Quote
I know where the errors are (except for those hills be4). I'm just showing you what I have so far. The paths look ok to me...and the gap I dunno how to fix, neither the bridge being invisi.
Edit:
Originally posted by Cirvante
A definite improvement, but it still sucks.

The gap in the paths is not fixed. That red level does not have a secret exit. You still have not removed the Yellow Switch Mountain (which is still glitched BTW), two of the hills have land tops instead of water tops, and it is still too similar to the original.

Please do not post any more OW shots until you have fixed what Peter and me have stated in the above posts.

But peter said he WANTED the hills to have land tops...MAKE UP YOUR MINDS PEOPLE ARGH!


(edited by NightKev on 05-27-06 07:38 PM)
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Posted on 05-27-06 08:41 PM Link | Quote
NightKev, you're hopeless.
NightKev

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"We have to enforce this, though. He needs no warning. The FAQ says spamming for syndrome = warning or ban, but man, he spammed BADLY... There's no way this shouldn't be ban-worthy." - someone less than smart, but more smart than you.


 





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Posted on 05-27-06 08:43 PM Link | Quote
Eh, I'll get better eventually, bob says he can fix the paths and stuff if I do the rest of it.
S.N.N.
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Posted on 05-27-06 08:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightKev
Eh, I'll get better eventually, bob says he can fix the paths and stuff if I do the rest of it.


Unfortunately, you probably won't if you keep making the same errors...

1. The path should NOT split going vertically
2. Still not enough detail
3. You should kinda realize that the areas behind the northeast hills are ugly. When peteer said put a piece of land behind it, he meant one that joins the cliff. If you don't do that, it will wreck the whole laws of science or whatever...aka it won't make sense.
4. Yellow switch cliff is STILL messed
5. The bottom right of the farthest right hill cuts off the cliff. Fix it.

I don't know what else to say....just....fix them.


(edited by S.N.N. on 05-27-06 07:52 PM)
NightKev

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"We have to enforce this, though. He needs no warning. The FAQ says spamming for syndrome = warning or ban, but man, he spammed BADLY... There's no way this shouldn't be ban-worthy." - someone less than smart, but more smart than you.


 





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Posted on 05-27-06 08:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by S.N.N.
Originally posted by NightKev
Eh, I'll get better eventually, bob says he can fix the paths and stuff if I do the rest of it.


Unfortunately, you probably won't if you keep making the same errors...

1. The path should NOT split going vertically
2. Still not enough detail
3. You should kinda realize that the areas behind the northeast hills are ugly. When peteer said put a piece of land behind it, he meant one that joins the cliff. If you don't do that, it will wreck the whole laws of science or whatever...aka it won't make sense.
4. Yellow switch cliff is STILL messed
5. The bottom right of the farthest right hill cuts off the cliff. Fix it.

I don't know what else to say....just....fix them.

1) Does no one read my posts? I said I didn't know how to fix it, there IS a level there, it's just invisible.
2) Ok.
3) Ohhhh.
4) Poo on the cliff, I can't find a tile to fix it.
5) Ok.

Edit: Three pages already...
Edit2/3: Well, three pages for me, I have 50 posts per page layout. So...11 pages for people with 10 post per page, and 100st post for me.


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Posted on 05-27-06 09:02 PM Link | Quote
I had the same thing happen to me before...it's some sort of glitch in events that makes the tile invisible. Your best bet would be to change the event number you are using to reveal that tile.

When I say more detail, I mean completely fill the map with eye-pleasing graphics. Here's a couple of my old ones if you'd like an example.





(ignore the nasty background colour on the last one) (and the messed up tree corner in the top one)

But see how I fill my maps, use unique palettes, and make the maps themselves unique? That's what you want to try to do...adding an extra rock to your map doesn't make it more appealing.

For the tile on the cliff, there is a tile somewhere in the 8x8 editor that has a ladder leading into ground. That is the tile you want. I don't feel like making you a screenie of it, but I'm letting you know it DOES exist, you just have to look harder.

Please post another picture when you have taken mine, and everyone elses advice


(edited by S.N.N. on 05-27-06 08:04 PM)
NightKev

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"We have to enforce this, though. He needs no warning. The FAQ says spamming for syndrome = warning or ban, but man, he spammed BADLY... There's no way this shouldn't be ban-worthy." - someone less than smart, but more smart than you.


 





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Posted on 05-28-06 07:30 PM Link | Quote

Much detail added, gap fixed.
Pac

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Posted on 05-28-06 07:40 PM Link | Quote
Have you not read anything that's been said already?

DELETE THE WHOLE MAP AND START FROM SRATCH!

Fucking hell, how hard is it to get a point across to this moron?
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