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Peardian

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Posted on 05-12-06 05:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cheveyo Chowilawu
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Interesting ideas, Cheveyo... Maybe we'll be able to fit that in somehow.


On a similar note, I came up with the design and layout of the starting area, a small space station orbiting Planet Zebes. Here's a small sketch.




The lines are antennae or something. The main area to the left is where all noobs new members will start. There's also a training area, a lobby, and a hospital. There are also two elevators that lead outside above and under the station, but advanced weapons will be needed to open the blast shields. A long hallway connects the main area to the smaller docking bay area, where there is a Save Station and two mini obstacle courses. The final room holds the transport ship that will take them to the planet's surface, which I have dubbed "The Z-Bus".


Of course, all this can wait until we get the engine running and whatnot.
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Posted on 05-12-06 06:46 PM Link | Quote
Well, I can make the entirety of the cave, I just wanted to get the entryway made while the idea was still in my head.

Comments on the tileset though? Now that I'm more awake, I'm not liking it as much, but I tend to be overly critical of myself...
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Posted on 05-12-06 08:14 PM Link | Quote
It looks pretty good, but it could use some touch ups, such as doing something about the little bit of black on top of the ground tile. Sure, it gives it an uneven surface look, but it creates lines when stacked. That, or you could create another tile specifically for the rest of the ground.


I'm going to go play with more sprites now.

Edit: Rio.




(edited by Peardian on 05-12-06 07:20 PM)
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Posted on 05-12-06 09:12 PM Link | Quote
oh oh i love RPG'S AND METROID GAMES!!! i wish io can help!!!

i have no programming skills of any kind but i WILL think of anything i can help with! like info and stats and missions! also can u please confirm if it's an RPG?
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Posted on 05-12-06 09:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
It looks pretty good, but it could use some touch ups, such as doing something about the little bit of black on top of the ground tile. Sure, it gives it an uneven surface look, but it creates lines when stacked. That, or you could create another tile specifically for the rest of the ground.

Well, without that, it'd look way too plain, so... shouldn't take too much to slap together a quick improvement.

Before I do that, though, anything else you can see? May as well do it all at once.
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Posted on 05-12-06 09:29 PM Link | Quote
Hmm... fix the acid a bit. Make it more wavy.


And no, I don't think it is an RPG. Suggestions are always welcome.
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Posted on 05-12-06 09:36 PM Link | Quote
oh cuz i was thinking of figuring out stats and weapon upgrades for all the playable characters and enimies if it were an RPG!

but if its not u can say that u can't open any doors at the beggining unless u have the arm cannon(u start the game witha pistol or stun gun) then u go through the training and u get the arm cannon to open the door which takes u to "The Z-Bus" to start your missions on ZEBES
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Posted on 05-12-06 09:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hello02
oh cuz i was thinking of figuring out stats and weapon upgrades for all the playable characters and enimies if it were an RPG!

but if its not u can say that u can't open any doors at the beggining unless u have the arm cannon(u start the game witha pistol or stun gun) then u go through the training and u get the arm cannon to open the door which takes u to "The Z-Bus" to start your missions on ZEBES


Actually, you can't really get through the game without opening doors. Also, not everyone will be Samus. People will be able to choose from anyone (excluding Mother Brain and the acid dragon).
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Posted on 05-12-06 09:51 PM Link | Quote
u mean there just can't be always opened dorrs taht u dont need the arm cannon for?

cuz if u do do that then u could make the training be training for your Bounty Hunter's Permit! they would give u the thing to open doors at the end of it!

but i guess u can't do it if all entrances must be doors!
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Posted on 05-13-06 03:07 AM Link | Quote
Just an idea, when the player is away, have their charcter rest in that same map area. There would be protected map areas around the universe, but you'd have to pay for protection. According to how much and how hard money was to be earned. The users in these areas could not be harmed until they left, or ran out of money and was kicked out of the protected area (Only offline will they be forced out. ).

Another idea. Bounty hunting. A players bounty went up everytime someone placed some money on them for commiting a crime. A user had to place that bounty. Bounty hunters could work alone or along side others in searching for the bounty and split the pay. When the mission was accomplished, they either split the money or turned on each other for all of pay.

Everytime you died, you lost some money and all the power-ups the user previously bought.

If this game is large enough, I request Guild's or Empire's to be formed between users so that they can dominate too. Extra maps in the galaxy waiting to be captured. You could pay money for your defence if someone raided. But if someone destroyed your planet, they had a right to call it their own. They could build defences and other things just as quickly as you started them.

Hope this didn't waste time. I know ideas are one thing, but getting them done takes a lot more effort.
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Posted on 05-13-06 11:06 AM Link | Quote
thats a good idea! make the money called bounty points!

(AHHH! i have soo many idea for an RPG!)

like each time u kill someone u get a certain amount of bounty points?

like if there are enimies u kill them and get 2 bounty points, and if u kill onother player u get 10!
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Posted on 05-13-06 03:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Riku

Another idea. Bounty hunting. A players bounty went up everytime someone placed some money on them for commiting a crime. A user had to place that bounty. Bounty hunters could work alone or along side others in searching for the bounty and split the pay. When the mission was accomplished, they either split the money or turned on each other for all of pay.


Hehe... genius! There could even be Wanted posters in the bounty lobby!


The empire, on the other hand... hmm... that might be a bit too much. It sounds fun, but it's just not what I had in mind.
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Posted on 05-13-06 03:26 PM Link | Quote
Peardian, um.... if you want, I could update the tileset for you and maybe make some extras....like slime or something.

I also have an idea for a map. Um, how about an ice world? Everything could be slippery and the water could be frozen and stuff. And if you don't have this Frost item, you rapidly lose energy for every second that you're in the area. (it's so cold) How does that sound?
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Posted on 05-13-06 04:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Magikoopa Myster
Peardian, um.... if you want, I could update the tileset for you and maybe make some extras....like slime or something.

I also have an idea for a map. Um, how about an ice world? Everything could be slippery and the water could be frozen and stuff. And if you don't have this Frost item, you rapidly lose energy for every second that you're in the area. (it's so cold) How does that sound?


Sounds good! I always liked icy worlds.

For the tileset, go for it!


Also, I've attached a map of the Space Station. I'll work on the tileset later.

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Posted on 05-13-06 06:09 PM Link | Quote
While I was searching for a full tileset, I found this:
Game Programming Stuff
I haven't looked through any of it, but maybe it can help. Maybe...
Riku

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Posted on 05-13-06 08:34 PM Link | Quote
That's just concept, right? Because I figured online games would have a generally much larger area for the 200+ players that would go online in even that one area. I'm guessing area's need to be as wide as a SMB3 level and as tall as needed.

Besides... It's the very start. Newbies would be crawling EVERYWHERE in that place.
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Posted on 05-14-06 12:15 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Riku
Besides... It's the very start. Newbies would be crawling EVERYWHERE in that place.


Actually, if possible, I'd want my cave to be set up so only one person is in it; everyone gets their own copy. It's supposed to be a test, after all.

Yeah, the rest of hte game... well, there'd be two things we could do. One option is to limit the number of people on at a time; provide more than one "world" to make up for this. That'd help prevent overcrowding. However, staff would be required for each world. Two variants of that idea, as well, one which acts as entirely seperate servers, storing different character data and allowing for a public test area that won't interfere with the rest of the game, and one where the same characters are used universally. Personally, I favor the first with a Maple Story-like approach (multiple "channels" for each world, which do the crowd prevention)

The other's just making really big areas that'll seem too open and not very metroid-like if it's a quiet day.


Also, would there be any sort of economy to deal with? I imagine the missions would have some sort of monetary reward (why bother risking your life otherwise?), but all I could forsee that being spend on is health and ammo, unless the normal Metroid weaponry is used more for puzzles and nifty special effects (like the Wave Beam) and you instead purchase or find the other weapons, but that seems rather non-Metroidy.

And what of Player vs. Player content? Considering that a game like this would definitely involve a certain amount of skill, I'm sure people would want to test themselves against each other.

Naturally, it's possible for the game to be enjoyable without that stuff, but all these questions must be answered; it's good to know a lot about the game you're going to play before you dive into it, and that's even more important when you're actually making one...



(edited by Cheveyo Chowilawu on 05-14-06 01:48 AM)
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Posted on 05-14-06 04:37 PM Link | Quote
Hmm... good point. Now that I think about it, imagine how many people will sit in front of the teleporter and kill anyone who starts. Using "channels" sounds good, but it will be a while before we'll need them.

Anyway, I've been working on the tileset and have produced this:


This is a screen onto which I have pasted an improved version of the tileset. (Except Samus, of course.) None of the colors were rearranged, just shades of black added on. Also, the Zoomer spritesheet seems to be incorrect, so I'll put up the improved version in just a bit...
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Posted on 05-14-06 04:58 PM Link | Quote
Sweet! That looks awesome!
If you want, I can make up some stats and stuff for each of the playable characters. Just tell me who is playable and their names.
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Posted on 05-15-06 01:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
Hmm... good point. Now that I think about it, imagine how many people will sit in front of the teleporter and kill anyone who starts.


Actually, there's other ways to fix THAT.

1. Safe zones, where no PVP is allowed.

2. Disable PVP box. Can only be changed once every x minutes (30, I'm thinking). Their attacks will have no effect on other players when PVP is disabled, and other players can't hurt them.

3. Safe period - up to a certain level/monetary amount/kill count, a character cannot engage in any PVP whatsoever, and cannot be harmed by other players.
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