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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 441/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Schwa I wonder, Must you always have Aspie brothers? Have you ever had an Aspie sister? |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 442/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Maximum sustained winds with Hurricane Katrina are now 175 mph (about 280 km/h)!  I think only Camille (1969) was ever stronger than this in the Atlantic. This thing is essentially a big F3 tornado!000 WTNT32 KNHC 281443 TCPAT2 BULLETIN HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 23 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 10 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 ...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA...EVEN STRONGER...HEADED FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST... A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE. AT 10 AM CDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.0 NORTH... LONGITUDE 88.1 WEST OR ABOUT 225 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...AND A TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH-NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 175 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 205 MILES. THE AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE RECENTLY MEASURED A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 907 MB...26.78 INCHES. COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE. REPEATING THE 10 AM CDT POSITION...26.0 N... 88.1 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 175 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 907 MB. AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT 1 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 4 PM CDT. FORECASTER PASCH $$ (edited by beneficii on 08-28-05 10:58 AM) |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 443/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Alright, good news: the French Quarter, I heard, is not having severe damage. It looks Katrina missed the city a bit to the east, which is sort of good. Despite partial roof fKitten Yiffer, it looks like the people in the Superdome are going to be alright and most of the people left the city. The bad news: several levees were breached and the water is pouring into parts of the city, particularly the eastern part. There seems to be quite a bit of wind damage too, so even though I don't think New Orleans turned into an Atlantis, it certainly turned into a Galveston (1900). EDIT: I forgot to mention. The water pumps that Danielle brought up earlier in the thread have stopped working. They'd probably be forced to send divers to fix the pumps. (edited by beneficii on 08-29-05 12:02 PM) |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 444/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Dr. Mario I wouldn't think it stupid if they started producing NES's again. In fact, we probably would need somebody to produce them in the long run, because otherwise there would end up being very few functional ones left. But yeah, I don't think they need to make a new console and call it the NES when it very clearly is not. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 445/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Bella and Elric, Yes, the parts of New Orleans we heard from were very fortunate. Just so you two know though, and I'm not trying to be blunt, but there are also parts that we haven't heard from for whatever reason. Those are the places I think we should be most concerned about. I heard that when Andrew hit in '92, nobody thought it did much at first because they weren't really hearing the reports from the badly hit areas. Only until they went in helicopters to survey the damage did they see how bad it really was. So I think it's very premature to quantify the amount of death and destruction this storm has caused. Still, I think that it's not nearly as bad as it could have been. Just before it made landfall, I think there was an intrusion of dry air into the southwest side of Katrina. This is fairly usual for hurricanes, especially those that occur late in the season when those mid-latitude west-to-east winds start taking over again. When dry air goes into a hurricane, it cause some of the water to evaporate cooling the area where it is. This disrupts the development of tropical systems, which are warm-core storms. In cold-core storms however which have the fronts and stuff (the ones marked by a big L on the weather map and often have a cold front or something attached, the usual kind) an infusion of dry air would help strengthen the process. It has to do with the differences in the way warm- and cold-core storms develop. Also, Katrina went just a bit east, saving New Orleans from the worst. So, we were fairly fortunate. Still, I think we would be very lucky if there were not at least dozens of deaths from this. I know that's blunt and everything, but I think that's just the truth. (edited by beneficii on 08-29-05 04:21 PM) |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 446/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by ElricOriginally posted by beneficiiI'm not quantifying anything. I'm merely pointing out the fact that the storm was no where NEAR as bad as the weather people wanted you to believe. They were acting like it was Revelations, and this was the beginning of the end of the world. They made it seem like New Orleans was going to be obliterated. They were, as usual, wrong. Fact: Weather forecasters are wrong waaaaay more than they are right. Fact: You can not, never could, and never will be able to predict nature. That's all I'm saying. Well, with the apocalyptic forecasts, I don't think anybody was talking about the world ending, but New Orleans getting sunk was and still remains a distinct possibility. You may balk at such a possibility even now, but the possibility is there. The worst-case scenario is if a Category 5 approaches New Orleans from the east (as it wouldn't be weakened by a landfall in more southerly Louisiana). We have yet to see that happen, and a hurricane on the order of Camille or this one's peak approaches from that south could still be strong enough by the time it reaches NO for a direct hit. This one turned away at the last minute and was weakened before landfall (because of a dry air intrusion--probably from the trough that was approaching--the same trough that caused Katrina to turn north). I don't buy them being more wrong than right either. The kind of weather-forecasting about a certain city being hit would both be wrong and is not in general practice. The forecasters gave a range along the coast that Katrina could hit; they just gave New Orleans as the most likely point. What hyped this thing (though I think the hype was understandable, giving the devastating possibilities of this storm) was the news media. Also, the forecasters came out and said they weren't sure whether Katrina was going to hit as a 4 and a 5, and there were those that predicted it to be a 4 even after Katrina went to 175 mph winds. I know I may sound blunt or whatever in this post, but I think you're being unfair to the forecasters who I think did a very good job at this. Danielle, And yes! We get to have lots of rain from Katrina. Believe me, we've been somewhat short on rain lately, so we're, believe it or not, benefitting from Katrina.  (edited by beneficii on 08-29-05 07:21 PM) |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 447/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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I'm looking at images on TV, and it looks like especially the eastern parts are just underwater. You can see sometimes the top of the houses coming out of the water, but that's just it.  |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 448/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Danielle I think the rain is stopped, but from what I understand water is still pouring out of those broken levees. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 449/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| http://www.wwltv.com/ 50 DEAD IN MISSISSIPPI, CONFIRMED BY OFFICIAL Black Hawk helicopters are scheduled to land at LSU's Bernie Moore track stadium within the next hour or two with people injured in the storm who will be triaged and sent to local hospitals in Baton Rouge Northshore Report: Slidell has extensive flood damage, impassable roads; Covington and Mandeville have extensive wind damage - entire parish without power. No communication to St. Tammany officials. Click for story. I think Slidell's a suburb of New Orleans. Plus, these fatality reports are coming from Mississippi; the ones coming out of Louisiana (and I think there are probably more casualities there) are slow in coming out. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 450/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Martial law has been declared in New Orleans; 80% of the city is underwater and the water is still rising. I heard that there were 80 deaths alone in Harrison County. EDIT: Hurricane Katrina has been a general, well you know, pain in the ass for the rest of the south. All last night, we had heavy rain and strong wind all night and our power was knocked out all last night. (That's why I haven't been on since around eleven or so CDT.) There now seems to be a leak in our roof and there's just leaves and crap all over our road and backyard, etc. Then again, I don't think I should be complaining, as I still have a home, computer, power back on, etc. Those people in New Orleans and southern Mississippi don't have anything.  (edited by beneficii on 08-30-05 11:01 AM) |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 451/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Bella I heard some reports that it won't stop till it's level with the lake. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 452/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Danielle According to the Wikipedia article on it, it's about 12 to 14 feet deep on average. Now parts of it were made artificially deeper to allow for shipping (so the water wouldn't be too shallow), but I'm not sure if any parts near the broken levee were done like this. EDIT: Nevertheless, considering how much wider the lake is than New Orleans, the water dumping into it will probably amount to something much deeper than 12 to 14 feet on average. 30 feet or more doesn't seem out of the question.  (edited by beneficii on 08-30-05 04:54 PM) |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 453/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Danielle Pretty much. Water tends to a flat top, not necessarily equal deepness. That level kept about 7 feet deep of water out, so that much will probably be what falls out. Take a look at this diagram: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:New_Orleans_Levee_System.gif Again, remember, that unfortunately New Orleans's basin is nearly as wide and long as Lake Ponchatrain, so it's going to be much deeper than 7 feet when the water gets its flat top. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 454/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Danielle LOL, give me the power and I will.  |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 455/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Arwon I don't know, It seems that it was worse that Katrina missed New Orleans to the east. All it took was for the levee to be destoyed and the pumps to fail to sink New Orleans, and Katrina did that, but now Katrina was able to cause a lot of death and destruction over in Mississippi too. I've heard all sorts of things, especially taking place near the Superdome; gunshots being heard everywhere, cops and firefighters joining in the looting, possible prison riots, possibly gangs trying to take control of what's left, and the whole town becoming like a third world hellhole. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 456/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by alte Hexe I wonder if New Orleans'll just end up becoming like Iraq.... |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 457/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by alte Hexe Of course Lisbon got rebuilt into a totally different city. I think what will happen with regards to New Orleans in the coming months and years will help determine the present quality of our civilization. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 458/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by alte Hexe I mean really it just seems so apocalyptic. I mean, it took what, 12 hours after the storm passed, for that levee to break? Why and how did that levee break then? This with the Gulf Stream slowing down, the Great Tsunami of 2004, and the more chaotic weather of the past few years, is really unsettling. I mean Katrina destroyed cities! |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 459/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by DahrkDaiz She's just kinky about it... |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 460/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra That too. We do like feeling attractive, that's why we you always see us dressed so nicely.  (edited by beneficii on 08-31-05 10:37 PM) |
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