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Posted on 08-20-04 04:12 PM, in AcmlmBoard development comes to Acmlm's! [1.93b2 08-19-04] Link
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Originally posted by Jesper
Lots of new small stuff - the biggest changes are PM box on other pages and ofcourse the fork in Edit Profile. Edit Layout now is a separate file and offers preview. Opinions?
Now I strangle you for changing the menu at top, i'm going to click on the wrong link for awhile now.

But i'm going get used to that with time... ;P
Especially because there's a link from Edit Profile pointing to Edit Layout. It could look better, but when I added that in we were 10 minutes from uploading.

Confirmed changes in Edit Layout happening in the next build:
  • Post preview will look like an ordinary thread row, and the options to the left will be on a row on top instead.
  • Longer stretch test text. (Say that five times fast.)
  • Simple checkbox to turn autopreviewing on and off, and making the Preview button visible and functioning like manual autopreview.


By the way, I want to take the opportunity to explain what we're doing with the new stuff. A red thread goes through everything I do atleast to look if we're doing any unnecessary form sending. When creating a new poll, you'll have to re-send the form to add poll options. It's comparatively easy to add javascript code to make that part 'dynamic' - working with code from the page instead of needing to fetch new data every time we want a new poll option. Here's a proof-of-concept of dynamic poll option adding. It will not look like that on the board, but it will very much function like that.

Similarly, on the new Edit Layout page, if your browser can handle it, we have a piece of Javascript in place to fetch JUST the new preview data instead of constantly needing to press Preview and fetch around thrice or even four times the data.
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Posted on 08-20-04 04:25 PM, in The "bordercolor" tag Link
Originally posted by Disch
Come to think of it... can you even DO css stuff in layouts? Never bothered trying.
Here's the full HTML of my layout:
<div class="jesper-daring"><h3>jesper</h3><blockquote class="my"><h4>post &numposts&
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Posted on 08-20-04 04:38 PM, in Wheeeeeeeee! Look at them go! Link
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Posted on 08-20-04 04:42 PM, in Wheeeeeeeee! Look at them go! Link
Originally posted by XXXKitten
i do believe my computer has just exploded.
So right now I guess you're stuck using good old-fashioned telepathy. Sucks.
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Posted on 08-20-04 05:01 PM, in All the "Off" threads Link
Originally posted by Commandant Umatislavik
I can't figure out where to write things. Go me. I'll write it here.

editlayout.php is like fucked in Mac IE. It's fine in Mozilla.
Confirmed. And sort of fixed. Mac IE will, like Win IE, drop into non-javascript mode now but it will refuse to load the stylesheets even then. Will be fixed hopefully.
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Posted on 08-20-04 07:42 PM, in New SMB3 editor, maybe Link
Originally posted by hukka
Jester,
WHAT? Read my name again.
Originally posted by hukka
I got the idea that Sephiroth actually thought my editor was for DOS (which it obviously ain't). Anyway, I agree with you about M3I's bad points and actually it's worse on my computer - it crashes a lot and the mouse pointer doesn't move properly at all, so I'm mostly reduced to using the editor competely with keyboard.
I've experienced the keyboard issues, too, on this computer. And the 'druggy mouse' behavior on my last one. But all those series of issues are not consistent from computer to computer, so it seems to me more like an error in Windows NT/XP' implementation of the DOS shell than MI3, which ofcourse doesn't negate the fact that in the end, those issues appear in MI3.

It sounds like you have your work cut out for you, but it's good that you have MI3 to refer to and also add features independently of what it or other editors have. I can't wait to see a beta.
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Posted on 08-20-04 10:43 PM, in All the "Off" threads Link
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Bit offtopic but... wasn't the support for Mac IE dropped?

And I say as well that editlayout.php works fine for me, Jesper showed me it yesterday in unfinished state. I complained about I wanted a diffrence stretching that just a picture... and he later fixed that nicely.

But I hadn't tested it in IE.
Yes, the support was dropped, or so I thought. I can reliably detect an IE-only limitation but it's not present on the Mac and so I have to go by other limitations.
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Posted on 08-20-04 10:47 PM, in AcmlmBoard development comes to Acmlm's! [1.93b2 08-19-04] Link
All admin-only scripts now in admin/. Sorry we didn't put this in 72pt in the version history, but it is there.

Originally posted by Cervantes
So *finally* making a poll will be less time consuming... and annoying?
In a word, yes.

(edited by Jesper on 08-20-04 01:50 PM)
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Posted on 08-20-04 10:54 PM, in Wheeeeeeeee! Look at them go! Link
Sorry. Forgot this one. By Cymoro.
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Posted on 08-21-04 12:04 AM, in It's liKe I'm stucK in permanant burnout. Link
Originally posted by Millenium Neko
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Be glad it isn't YiffKitten...



OMFG!!! That was the best name I
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Posted on 08-21-04 12:17 AM, in ACS - August 2004 Link
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Jesper, you have not followed the ACS very much before. Colleen only change the name end of the month, and only if it's a permament change.

That happened in December 2003, then he continue to use Gamefreak19 in janurari becuse he forgot to change. XD

And today, i'm going to spree hellalot!
I've been following the ACS more or less since it started, and I think you need to read up on detecting smug sarcasm.
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Posted on 08-21-04 02:41 AM, in AcmlmBoard development comes to Acmlm's! [1.93b2 08-19-04] Link
As in zipped up with documents and installation/migration scripts? Possibly, but not within the next six months. Next nine months or year, perhaps.
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Posted on 08-21-04 03:16 AM, in It's liKe I'm stucK in permanant burnout. Link
Originally posted by YiffKitten
14:48 - Xkeeper: * Kitten Yiffer bursts into flames. *Kitten Yiffer dies.
Hey, no flaming.




Yeah, I know.
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Posted on 08-21-04 05:32 AM, in It's liKe I'm stucK in permanant burnout. Link
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Ban him for that.
Hey, you're the one who burst into flames.
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Posted on 08-21-04 05:34 AM, in Wheeeeeeeee! Look at them go! Link
AE theme spin! Yay!
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Posted on 08-21-04 05:41 AM, in AcmlmBoard development comes to Acmlm's! [1.93b2 08-19-04] Link
Originally posted by Cymorovikov
Originally posted by Jesper
As in zipped up with documents and installation/migration scripts? Possibly, but not within the next six months. Next nine months or year, perhaps.


The summer of 20XX.
Ah yes. When war was beginning.

It's entirely possible that we'll do it the way Erk says for the brave and/or smart ones. We could mark up Acmlm's-specific code. Something like this:

/** @acmlm */
foo(bar);
/** @/acmlm */

And then we'd just run the scripts through a 'makedist' script and it'd make copies of the scripts, remove the Acmlm's-specific code and package it somehow. We could even do some documentation to bundle in with similar tags. (And for those of you familiar, yes, I snagged the syntax from JavaDoc.)

It should be noted that I still want to do a 'sharp' release when this is all done though. Migration scripts, installation instructions, and a simple reference to a few of the key db tables. If anyone's up for writing docs, that'd be great.
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Posted on 08-21-04 05:44 AM, in ACS - August 2004 Link
I'm going to be away for a big part of tomorrow. Waking up at seven AM (you mean those hours before 11AM exist?) I'll be helping my sister move to downtown Stockholm for most of the day. I should be home by the afternoon to put in a solid evening of spam.
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Posted on 08-21-04 05:47 AM, in It's amazing what boredom does. Link
I have 10 words: Xkeeper, you have way too much time on your hands.Someone, give me the URL to the "open door GIF".

(Xk, yours wasn't half bad either. )
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Posted on 08-21-04 06:13 AM, in Smallhacker's Island Released! Link
XD

That was a laugh. Poor Mario .
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Posted on 08-21-04 06:34 AM, in Brink of Light Link
Originally posted by AghBob
Jesper, yes it has all that you asked about.
Good, then it's a decent language.
Originally posted by AghBob
You don't like CF? You want to use something else cause you're better aquainted with it? Fine, I respect that. It's honorable to stick to what you're good at. But starting to give me crap is wrong and DIShonorable. You don't like my programming skills? You don't like CF? You don't like me as a person? Big deal, and you've gotta be pretty stuck up to make fun of people about their programming skills.
You're the one who started with the crap-giving here. You haven't shown any proof that CF programming pays much higher than PHP, which was basically what you were saying just a few posts back, so I'd rather tell YOU to stop giving me crap about programming skills. Note that I haven't said anywhere in the thread that "CF is for weiners" or something to a similar effect.

I respect other people knowing different languages. Claiming that CF's far ahead of everything else just because it can do stuff like connecting to a DB server in fewer commands than language X, and additionally claiming that you get better paid for it without ANY facts to back it up, however, is just something else. That's both insulting to my programming skills and my languages of choice and also pretty surely not true. I would have believed you if you had said that Assembler programmers earn more, because that's several levels lower and is decidedly harder to learn, but this sounds far more unlikely.

The big deal here is that you should always be able to back up what you say. What's been going on in this thread is that people have asked you to define (with tangible examples) why CF is, in your book, a wiser choice than the alternatives. You've been pointing to sites that as far as I could find didn't even mention any actual in-use CF code, they just mentioned that they were using CF. You have further claimed that CF will make people pay you more, but have refused to explain why, how much, what you're refering to that they'll pay you more than (plain HTML pages? That goes without saying). And lastly, you said, verbatim "php is great, but CF is better." and you have still to back that up as well. Proving one language is better than the other is insanely hard, because in order to prove that, one of the languages needs to be wildly inferior to the other or have serious limitations. I don't see this as being the case for CF vs PHP.

Before you reply to this post and call me a flaming moron or PHP nazi or CF hater or what have you, BACK UP THE FACTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SATISFACTORILY BACKED UP, like those above.
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