Originally posted by Slay

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We tend to think of "dinosaurs" as a single thing, but I reckon that they were as varied as modern animals -- some with soft skin and feathers or fur, some with scales like modern reptiles.

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Oh yes, let's all argue about how smart Slay is, that'll get us somewhere.

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I find it much more plausible that life sprang up all across the globe, in independant instances. In general, like creatures today stem from like ancestors, in that most if all reptiles descend from one or a few instances, most if all mammals descend from one or a few instances, and so on. I don't necessarily think that we had to go from fish to reptile to bird to mammal.

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For clarification, microevolution is changes within a species (dogbreeding) while macroevolution is change of species (fish to reptile).

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As for your question, probably yes. If there were certain species of dinosaur that were warm-blooded and feathered, it's completely likely in my mind that they could have microevolved into the birds we see today. I don't necessarily think that reptilian dinosaurs of the past would have turned into mammalian birds of the present.

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See, another problem arises that our classification system is simply constructed to organize our thoughts, and it may not be fully accurate. For example, let's say we have feathered, warm-blooded dinosaur X and modern bird Y. We have seperately classified them under completely different Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species, but the fact may indeed be that Y is a descendant of X -- we currently have no missing link thus no way of knowing. That throws our entire organization system into chaos, if we suddenly had to merge the categories of birds and certain dinosaurs. It's nice and clean and neat to organize our scientific classification so that each animal we come across has it's own classifications, but nature and life itself is anything but neat and clear-cut.

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So I think my hesitation towards macroevolution stems mostly from a disagreement with the scientific classification system, not from disbelief that Fido was once Dino.

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Now, here's where my views differ from conventionally accepted science. I don't believe that all life started in the ocean as fish, then fish became amphibians which moved on to land and became reptiles which adapted to become birds which further adapted to become mammals, and so on.

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That theory, I imagine as this...
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One line. One central ancestor for all life - be it plant or animal, microscopic or normally visible - that exists today.

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And since "species" is a term of scientific classification, it is useless to debate as well. My use of the term "species" when referring to micro and macroevolution in this post was for the sake of simplicity, to illustrate that I don't believe dogs were once reptillian or humans were once aviary.

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But, then again, I could be wrong. As for the original topic material; my view is that reptilian dinosaurs begat modern reptiles, birdlike dinosaurs begat modern birds, i.e. that dinosaurs were not all reptiles, but they weren't all birds -- they were highly varied, biologically.

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Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish

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Yes, we've known about the game for quite awhile but I think this info is new, so.

Sounds kinda cool, actually. I may want to pick it up.

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Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish

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If power was what mattered then Bowser wouldn't suck

Also how is PK Thunder "<3"? It's horridly easy to cancel and sucks as recovery =/

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Originally posted by Danielle

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4th place can be cozy.



THAYER HEY YOU WERE GONE?

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Originally posted by windwaker

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Originally posted by Thayer

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Originally posted by windwaker

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Uh. You just said dickwad. You have no authority to call someone immature. D; Honestly, are you some 30 year old who was the only one in high school that didn't get laid? That's really what it sounds like. XD

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Until this post, this thread was actually a fine discussion. gtfo

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19 and still not laid, eh?

I hate to point out more obvious irony, but the discussion was fine until you said that people only get laid 18 or younger so they can brag about it. And they you said dickwad, in which case I replied, and you flamed me in html comments.

Mature. XD

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Originally posted by ßℓøøϧTÂЯ

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RUN

Wait... is Luigi a communist too?

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