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Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 42/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| "I think someone should just go ahead and SHUT THEM DOWN." Nah, I wouldn't go that far. But it's in poor taste. On a related note, so too is the endless references to "Anzac spirit" by sport commentators. I must've heard the term five times during the Swans vs Demons clash, and it angered me. (edited by Arwon on 04-25-04 08:30 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 43/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 44/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| You need to apply the formula. Where O is the older person's age and Y is the younger: 1/2(O)+ 7 < Y Half the older person's age and add 7... the younger must be older than that, for it to not be weird. So if you're 18... 1/2(18) + 7 = 16 1/2(18) + 7 > 15 Sorry, it's weird. (edited by Arwon on 04-25-04 08:41 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 45/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Tinzeee, what are you talking about? We do have Rememberence day - November 11, a.k.a. Armistice Day. It isn't a public holiday but there's the traditional minute's silence and all that. The Americans don't even do "Rememberence Day" as such. They call it "Veteran's Day" and it seems to be less about WW1 specifically than veterans in general. So yes, Colleen, we do mark Rememberence Day. It isn't a public holiday though. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 46/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Oh My. Um, Devo's 'Beautiful World' is pretty grand. Really adds to the sarcasm/irony of the song, with images of nuclar explosions and cross burnings and stuff. All the Talking Heads videos I've seen are just clever in that art-school punk sort of way. Particularly "Burning Down the House" and "Once In a Lifetime". the Flaming Lips' "Do You Realize??" just makes me smile and grin like an idiot. An elephant falling over for the lines "everyone you know someday will die" just works in its own bizzare way. Blur's Parklife is kinda fun, too. Augie March's Little Wonder is pretty stunning with the fishman and the Tasmanian wilderness and all, not that anyone else here will have seen it. Maybe in a few months when their album is released in the US. Bjork's "Bachelorette" is also pretty visually impressive and grand. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 47/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| The last thing I would have purchased would have been the Clash's London Calling, and the Klezmatics' Rise Up! - Shteyt Oyf! Currently I feel that I need stuff by Microphones, and Les Savy Fav's new album. I also have decided I want some classical music, but some complete pieces, not just those little compilations with chunks of different ones that just cut out and jump all over the place. Some composers I have in mind: Mussorgsky, Shostakovich, Mozart, Mahler, Saint Seans, Wagner, Strauss, Grieg, Vivaldi or Chopin. Depends what I find. (edited by Arwon on 04-26-04 12:48 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 48/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 49/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Jarukoth: So if we pull out our troops, we are then a country of wusses? (edited by Arwon on 04-27-04 06:56 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 50/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| If our support and friendship is that conditional, that if we don't do exactly as is wanted, we get criticised and berated, labelled cowads and appeasers and, indeed, wusses... what is that support and friendship actually worth? (edited by Arwon on 04-27-04 07:01 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 51/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Yes, but if we're that dependant on following the US into a war we have no business in, to curry favour and get support, then what is the "friendship" and "alliance", really? Friends don't berate friends for being cowards and appeasers and wusses. (edited by Arwon on 04-27-04 10:54 AM) (edited by Arwon on 04-27-04 11:00 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 52/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Jarukoth: Apoligies. Kinda just reacting to the "Spain are cowards and appeasers" vibe I've been getting on other boards, seeing it everywhere now, and relating it to Australia of course... Back on subject... When in doubt, turn to the Onion: Iraqis Arming Selves for Independence |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 53/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Yeah, on my license it says that it's open harvest on all my organs once I die. There's absolutely no reason not to. I should go give blood soon, too. "Alright boys this one's had it, get the knife and some buckets!" |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 54/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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Originally posted by Rydain From what I saw and heard of him from this side of the ocean, Kucinich struck me as the only decent, moral candidate running. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 55/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| I'm tempted to agree, Elmo, but no, I don't think I can. Is all music equal, as far as artistic integrity, creativity, originality and such goes? I probably am a music snob, but then I'm probably also quite ecclectic in my tastes (who isn't, these days?). The two certainly aren't exclusive. I like the Village People and Prince but I make fun of, say, Boy George. Though, actually, I don't have anything against, say, Brittney Spears or Delta Goodrum et al (people aho are really "anti-pop" annoy me), because they're not really "artists" so much as they are a product (not unlike computer chips). They spring up to fulfil a need, and to cater to a specific market of which I am not a part, and they make no pretentions about "cred" or whatever. However, I look down on, say, Blink 182 and Good Charlotte. I think they're insipid drivel and as a consequence, my opinion of someone who is super-into that sort of stuff is going to be lower than it would be if they listened to, say, the Talking Heads. That's natural. People whose tastes are closer to my own, are naturally going to be held in higher regard by me. Because that tells me instantly that I have common ground with them. I get excited when I meet people whose tastes match mine - it tells me there's a decent chance I can get along with this person. Conversely, when I meet someone whose tastes run into stuff I really dislike (especially white-shirted accoustic college rock like Dave Matthews Band or John Mayer, or angry middle-class rebellion sludge like Limp Bizkit or System of a Down etc) or people who have never heard of or hate a lot of stuff I listen to... then that makes it that much harder to find common ground with them. That's not just a music thing. Some sort of commonalities of interest, tend to make it easier to get along with someone and respect them. Car buffs, for example, wouldn't have a very high opinion of me nor I of them... and people who hate sport probably look down on me because I'm a big Australian Football fan. That's not to say, of course, that I or anyone else can't get along with/become friends with/fall in love with people with totally different interests. We're all different, we all have our own quirks and tastes and foibles, and we all go together in often strange and unexpected ways. I can love a car fanatic, I could hate someone whose musical tastes match mine completely, I have quite a few friends who hate sport of all kinds, and plenty who think my musical tastes are fucked up. Humans are funny creatures. Similarities and commonalities can help breed friendship and respect, but they don't always and the reverse is also true (differences don't always lead to conflict, snobbery, lack of respect, etc). ----------- Now, a slightly different train of thought: I tend to look down on people who confine themselves to one genre ("I like metal!") as well as people who claim to be so openminded and stuff that they like "all music" ("all music" as distinct from "ecclectic", of course!) so maybe I'm just an ass. Or maybe, I find that there's different styles of musical fanhood that transcend specific genres. They might have different tastes, but people who pidgeonhole themselves into a genre probably could be said to have similar attitudes to music, a similar style of fanhood. (Thus a devoted Metal fan gives off much the same vibes as a Ska kid or whatever) Likewise, people who claim to "like everything" probably all have a fairly similar way of liking music - the folks who don't care enough to have opinions, or the folks who like lots of random stuff from all different places. There's people who obsess over one album for ages then move onto another and obsess over that, and there's people who can't get enough of all different things, voraciously tearing through heaps of music and liking lots of stuff, but not having any real defined favourites that last over time - so "What music do you like?" is a bloody hard question to answer for them. You can kinda get different vibes from people's tastes even if they like the same basic musical territory. "I like punk!" shows a different sort of musical taste than "I'm fond of a lot of late 70s stuff, the British punk stuff, that crazy New York punk/new wave scene... the Ramones, the Clash, Television, Talking Heads, you know..." and these are both different from "at the moment I'm really digging Sandanista" and "my punk rocker friend made me this cool old-school punk CD. I love London Calling!" is different again. So it's an attitude thing and a personality thing, as well as just what music they specificlaly like, that can cause someone (ie me) to look down on someone else's musical tastes. Not that this makes them a bad person. My mum likes, basically, Country Music (mainly Australian stuff) and a few sugary 70s pop bands. We agree, basically, on ABBA, Blondie and the Flaming Lips. Nothing else. What was I saying? Musical tastes do, inevitably, have some bearing on people's view of one another, if the people in question like music a lot. It's inevitable. But, at the same time, it's not just what someone listens to, it's their attitudes and stuff. ------------ Oh, and the Cure are so rock, at least by a broadish definition. "Boys Don't Cry" is awesome. Then again, they're also goth and synth-pop. And also whiny queer music for whiny queers. Apparently. Go Figure. (edited by Arwon on 04-29-04 06:56 AM) (edited by Arwon on 04-29-04 06:58 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 56/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Well, they're more rock than "jazz" or "classical" or whatever. Which is kinda what I was driving at. Almost all modern popular music owes its roots to "rock" in some form or another. I like both those songs, too. I've been on a bit of a Lovecats kick today, actually (Don't forget the trumpet, too!). Ba-da-dap-bap-bap-bap-bap-baa-dada, baa-dap-dap-dap-dadda... Meanwhile: Consider - Aren't you being snobbish towards people who don't like cheesy and "shallow" things, pre-judging their reasons as being because they're afraid of their reputations? Aren't you forming opinions of others based on their tastes? Isn't that a form of snobbery too? ie "I'm so liberated and comfortable with myself I like shallow and cheesy things!" Just a thought. I'm certainly not holding it against you or trying to attack you, because I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here, and besides which, I think it's natural to make judgements about people's tastes and everyone does it to some extent. (edited by Arwon on 04-29-04 07:23 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 57/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| I'm not sure that the "top 40 charts" are too much of an indication of talent (well, okay, I'm damn aure they aren't)... nor even a reliable indicator of popularity. Who likes Creed in such numbers? The "charts" strike me as being a very narrow and distorted view of things pereptuated by people whose interests are in making their people seem more popular and acclaimed than they actually are. I know the plural of anecdote is not data, but most people I know couldn't name most of the current "top 40" music, I should think. Kind of like how all you need to get a "New York Times Bestseller" is to get a bunch of books sold in bulk by retailers. It's gotten to the stage where the list bears little resemblence to people's real buying or reading tastes. If you find a bunch of "New York Times Bestsellers" in a dollar bin at a thrift store, it's a good bet that they pulled that trick. That's not to say there isn't good "top 40" music because there is, but I think it's a pretty incidental thing. ie "goodness" and "top40ness" are basically independent of each other, and there's not much of a cause and effect relationship between the two. (edited by Arwon on 05-03-04 05:29 AM) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 58/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| I, and I alone, uphold the civility and moral fibre of this rabble of board-dwellers. Without me there would be anarchy. | |||
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 59/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Haha. School. I remember that. | |||
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 60/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| I seem to recall being threatened with banning once. I think by Yiffy Kitten. Me? Banned? That's overzealousness in the extreme. | |||
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 61/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Wait, since when is "free speech" a right on a private message board? It's not a right on a private forum owned by someone. Meanwhile, didn't the person, when they registered, agree to a user agreement? Didn't that agreement include part about not harrassing to other members? If they're breaking said agreement, then they're in the wrong, eh? So I guess the answer is that the harassing person is an ass, and doesn't have a leg to stand on. |
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