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alte Hexe

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Posted on 05-14-05 05:17 AM, in Happy 10k for me! Link
I can't remember what my old board total was. But I outta be getting pretty damned close

Congrats, wuss.
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alte Hexe

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Posted on 05-15-05 01:29 AM, in Why do you think Jesus Exists? Link
Ummm.
Bible = Christian unbaptized = untarnished souls = Christians.
Ziff = Baptized without being asked at 1 1/2 weeks old = Christian without making conscience effort.
alte Hexe

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Posted on 05-15-05 01:32 AM, in wow...just wow.....xbox360 Link
Originally posted by Shyguy
I bet it's going to be EXPENSIVE! I've only just heard about it and from my sources, it has a built-in Halo game. In addition to all the nicknacks to it, it's from MICROSOFT! If it's from Firefox, then it'd be perfect.


XD LOL OMG U R FUNNY

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Posted on 05-15-05 02:11 AM, in wow...just wow.....xbox360 Link
Originally posted by Scatterheart

I probably won't buy the next installment of the X-Box series. The games is what it's all about for me, and I just don't like the games X-Box has to offer. Look at how many racing games like Burnout there were. FPShooters are pretty good online, but they're all the same, really. Sure there are a few exceptions, but still... And sport? *shivers*


STOP BUYING NINTENDO AND SONY...RIGHT NOW!

Because they both have racing games, FPS and sports games.

ONO BUY PHANTOM! IT DOESN'T HAVE GAMES LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Hold on.

OMGLOLOCOPTER
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Posted on 05-15-05 04:01 AM, in Happy 10k for me! Link
5991 + 3802 = 9793

207 posts, and then I make 10k. Wow.
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Posted on 05-15-05 05:03 AM, in How many languages do you know ? Link
I'm still working the Cantonese. Devil tongue.
Teaching myself German...Still.
Of course, I know English.
My French is improving.
I know lots of Ukrainian slurs now!
My buddy is forcing me to learn Hebrew.
I've picked up a small bit of Japanese. Enough to transcend the knowledge of most people on the internet (their vocabulary primarily being "neko" and "kawaii").
There are some other things I'm picking up. Ancient Greek...I'm getting good at, and my Latin pronounciation is impeccible.
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Posted on 05-16-05 12:15 AM, in Yay Patriotism! Link
The other day I heard a liberal assert that patriotism is really just xenophobia wearing a happy face, and that people who wave the flag and shout "God bless America" are nothing but ignorant fools, full of false pride and hatred for foreign cultures.

You know, I've never once heard a "liberal" say that. And I'm a stinking pinko. On the left side of the fence, it is asserted that NATIONALISM, the concept of the epousal of the nation as a race that is required for the world to work is bad. Moreover, nationalism's dangerous little brother jingoism is the big no-no. Claiming that your nation has the inherent RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY to wage war for wars sake in the name of the nation. That's bad. Anyone who thinks that that isn't bad is...In need of a history text book.

This attitude is typical of many left-wingers these days, and it's not too hard to understand how they could arrive at such a conclusion. They're extremely ignorant people, who are unable to appreciate the fact that many of their fellow citizens have a deep, unwavering love for their country, and the basic moral rightness for which it stands.

Eh? What? The NDP, the Socialist International wing in Canada is the patriotic party of the nation. Whereas the Conservative Party has mandated deeper integration with the US, the NDP wants to protect the nation's culture and preserve Canada's soverignty as its own nation.
I'd say it's extremely ignorant to make vast, sweeping generalizations about everyone on one side of the fence here. Moreover, to assume that the majority people who love their country are sitting on the right of the fence is again a little sketchy. And then to assume that it is a basic moral to be patriotic is again pretty darned sketchy.

After all, it's difficult to appreciate the greatness of America unless one understands its history, and liberals are sorely lacking in that sort of education. Take, for instance, the liberal contention that the United States is no better than any other nation, because some Americans used to be slave owners, and our government once wiped out entire populations of American indians. Well, in the first place, slavery, while it was a truly obscene practice, only lasted in this country for a little over 80 years, which is far less than it lasted in virtually every other country on the planet. And whatever you may think about the issue, never forget that hundreds of thousands of Americans sacrificed their lives in order to put an end to it.

Just a point on the first sentence. Traditionally "liberals" as they are called in America are noted to be the historians and other people who study the arts and hard sciences. So, I don't quite understand how pegging everyone on one side of the fence as uneducated helps the argument at hand. On an agreeable note though is the commendable action that America took to wipe out the Southern and Northern slave owners. But to say that the Civil War of America was simply about slavery to make a point is a fairly ignorant thing to do. Due to the complex issues surrounding the various battles and the actual beginning of hte war I don't think its fair to reduce it to a slight of a single issue.

As far as killing off the indigenous people of this continent is concerned, it's not like they were all just sitting around minding their own business when we attacked them. Yeah, we went to war against the indians, and some of the things we did were vicious, ugly, and unjust, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that they were all virtuous innocent bystanders. The indians did a whole lot of slaughtering themselves, not only of white people, but of other indians long before we ever showed up, so I think it's only appropriate that we try to maintain just a little bit of perspective on the matter.

Gah!? First off, using the term "indian" is just completely degrading and lowered the article to pish-posh in my eyes. It should be noted that People of the First Nations or Native are what they ought to be called. But to say that "Oh, it is okay that we killed the aboriginals of this nation because they were already doing it" is not okay. Nor is reducing the fact that the systematic slaughter of the natives all across North America and throughout South America due to their "attacking us" is okay. The French-Indian War (proper historical name of the beginning of the North American front of the Seven Years War in the US) was instigated by the French against the British in the Ohio Valley and the 13 Colonies to degrade British control. After the war was won by the Brits over the French in Quebec and the Revolutionary War was fought we came to a big problem. Both governments the British and the Americans came to a sort of agreement in regarding the natives, better dead than nothing. The English in Canada attempted to alleviate problems after Chief Pontiac began a rebellion with his Ottawa tribe and most of the other Iriquoian tribes. The Americans on the other hand instituted movements against the natives hat are comparable to genocide. Rather than try to bargain with the original owners of the land, the American government encouraged settlers on the Western frontiers to attack natives leading to an escalated war coalescing into the Cherokee rebellions. Its a big and problematic issue that can't be discussed in anything less than scholarly essays to say the least. But a historical backing would've been nice in the context of the article. You know, for perspective. Either way, reducing a very brutal conflict to a "well, they did it too" is pretty damned sad. At least he didn't bring up scalping, which is a European practise.

There's also the leftist view that America is not the great nation that the patriots among us believe it to be, because equality has not been achieved among all its citizens. What they fail to understand is that there is no such thing as absolute equality among people. There never has been, nor will there ever be. It's a practical impossibility.

I suppose this person hasn't spoken to a leftist after 1945. Things changed quite drastically and he is calling everyone from Socialists to Social Democrats Communists. Which is dead wrong.

Simply possessing the same rights as everyone else does not, in any way, guarantee a person equality of outcome in any endeavor, nor can laws change the fact that some people are superior to others in all sorts of ways. Is there any question that some folks are smarter than most of us, more athletic, more artistic, more motivated, or more physically attractive to the general population? Of course not. Why then should we assume that everyone is capable of achieving the same level of economic success in their lives? Indeed, what makes liberals think that there aren't some people who are completely undeserving of success, due to their own lack of hard work?

I can't really disagree with this at all, but I think that the point attempting to be made is "Why bother trying for equality?". I find this somewhat problematic, because the US is founded on John Locke's principal of "all men are born equal". I don't quite agree with that. But I think that as a society, it should be a part of life to try to help each other out rather than trying to further one's self.

The only equality anyone can ask for is equality under the law, and if some other country has a better system of justice than ours, I'd like to hear about it.

Norway
Sweden
Canada
Finland
The Netherlands
Belgium
France
England
Italy
Germany
Austria
Argentina

The list goes on.

Left-wingers also whine endlessly about American imperialism, even though they clearly have no grasp of what that term implies. If the United States was an imperialist nation, the Cold War never would have happened, because we would have obliterated the Soviet Union in 1945, and then established American-style governments and economic systems in every country we felt like controlling. No nation on earth was in a position to challenge us once we developed nuclear weapons, but we didn't set about taking over the world, because modern Americans are not conquerors, we're liberators.

Danger Will Robinson, danger. Strawman Will Robinson!

Perhaps this laddy outta read up on the Phillipines, Guam, Japanese-American relations, the Middle East and America, South and Central America in relation to America from 1890-2000 and other topics. I just find this argument bogus. Because there are tonnes of problems. American-style governments and economic systems were placed in every nation that America could get to. African nations for example were put through this in the Soviet-American game of cat and mouse. And the obliteration of the Soviet Union? I'm sorry, but it would've been a teensy bit harder to nuke Moscow, Kiev, Svestpool, Warsaw, Leningrad or any other major Soviet city due to having A: the logistical problems of the time. B: the strong Soviet anti-air defences. Japan was a battered nation with no defences against the air. Just a pissed of citizenry that would've made it dangerous to land American troops for a full-scale invasion. Thus, it was pretty much a cake walk to bomb Hiroshima (which wasn't even a stronghold of any military form) and the Bay of Nagasaki (which was devestated already). Either way, the Soviets were highly imperialistic with their dealings around the world, but equally nasty was America. No nation is innocent.

Still, few liberals are willing to make the sort of moral distinctions necessary to differentiate between countries like this one and the former Soviet Union. Most of the time they behave like moral relativists, who seem incapable of identifying evil when they see it. Of course, if the subject happens to turn to something like conservatism, their demeanors suddenly change. They have no problem treating right-wingers as if they were the spawn of Satan himself, but when it comes to someone like Joseph Stalin, why, he was just a poor, misunderstood schlub.

I do. My family were slaughtered en masse by the good ol' patriotic army of the NAZIs and the darned leftists of Stalin. We were killed by starvation. I'd like to tell this guy to go "fuck himself" when he says offensive things like that. First my family in Ukraine was subjugated by the Soviets, then we were starved twice in the Great Famines of '21 and '31-33. Then we got to deal with Koba's purges in the late 30s of any remaining Kulak sympathizers and non-Stalinists. Then we got to deal with the NAZIs when they sieged Odessa and Kiev. Joy, joy, joy. I don't see a difference in the nations, either. Chruchill and Rosevelt had the oppurtunity to bomb the guard stations at Austwitz, but deemed it a minor target in 1943. I'm sorry. I feel no love for any of these nations. And I have no personal problem with fiscally responsible conservatives or mild socons, I have a personal problem with conservatives who declare my gay friends to be evil. I have a problem with conservatives who say the poor need to change and get off their asses. I'm sorry, but those are nasty things to say and I can't really stand it. But either way, this part of the article makes me sick.

Oh, and let's not forget that America is also a horribly racist country, or so leftists would have us believe. Aside from being the descendants of slavers and genocidal maniacs, the white majority routinely seeks to disenfranchise black voters, prevent hispanics from entering the country, profile Arab-looking people at airports, and railroad virtually every non-white criminal suspect we can get our grubby little hands on. Of course, it doesn't seem to matter at all that a disproportionately high number of criminals in this country are non-white, that the vast majority of terrorists are Arab-looking, that millions of hispanics have entered the U.S. illegally, or that there's been practically no evidence of black voter disenfranchisement anywhere in the country in recent times.

So is every other nation. Do you think that I'm proud of what my ancestors did to Polish border towns, Russian towns, the Tatars of the Crimean, the Muslims and the Jews? All people are descendants of historical monsters like Kitchener, it is the Old European way.

But then he brings up these problems. Actually, the majority of crime committed in Canada and America are done by whites. Not blacks. And in fact, it isn't even done by that, it is done by the poor of all races, who have no other economic venues of climbing in the modern society. You get lucky or you fail when you're poor. Look at my family, we got lucky because my mom was fortunate enough to get into university in the late 70s when it was still cheap and the entrance averages were lower. Now, I have truly brilliant friends who live below the poverty line, work everyday and maintain 90 averages that can't afford to go to university. Even with the multi-thousand dollar scholarships.

Then there is the Arab problem...Look at the history of terrorism in America. The "big attacks" are done by Arabs and Muslims, but there have been two of those in American history. The two bombings of the WTC. But the majority of attacks have been done by whites. Plain and simple truth.

The black disenfranchisement of voting happened in the early 1990 when I turned 3 years old on March 3rd when Rodney King was beaten in LA. Way to gloss over the facts.

The illegal entrance of Mexican nationals into America is probably due to the gross conditions on the otherside of the border and the false thoughts that things are hella great for them on the otherside. Really when you're an illegal immigrant in any nation, unless you come from Africa or the other super-poor nations or a brutal dictatorship things aren't much better.

For the most part, liberals who cry racism at every turn are racists themselves, choosing to exploit the issue of skin color whenever they feel it will afford them some sort of political or social advantage. In fact, they are even more dangerous, potentially, than neo-Nazis or the KKK, because they don't admit they're racists. At least you know a skinhead when you see one.

What Math said.

These left-wing bigots are the same people who delight in telling everyone how awful this country is, and how ashamed we should be for all the horrors we've inflicted on the innocent people of the world throughout our history. And while they may not make up the majority of liberals in this country, they are almost never challenged by other leftists for being utterly despicable cretins.

LOL. I think every nation should be aware of the horrors it has committed and hold a bit of shame on that. It's a healthy thing when you're a Canadian and you caused the whole sale deaths and degradation of the Japanese and Japanese looking Asians in WW2. Or how we Canadians continue to gloss over the wretched conditions in our Native Reserves. LOL is all I say. LOL

No, their left-leaning confederates are too busy referring to patriotism as the foolish antics of a bunch of redneck simpletons, who think everyone else in the world sucks. Well, patriotism is NOT foolishness, nor is it an expression of unwarranted pride. Patriotism in this country is born of the understanding that we are among the most honorable and decent people on earth, in spite of our flaws, and it's kept alive by an overwhelming desire to make sure that our children are left with at least as much freedom and prosperity as we enjoy.

It is understandable, but there are tonnes of Ameri-proud leftists I know. Who take great joy in the founding of the nation, but despair at what they see around them. They're patriotic as the next guy, and support the ongoing war on terror and other things that many other leftists disagree with.

As a Canadian, I've always felt we are the most decent folk on Earth. As a Ukrainian Canadian I've always felt me and my ilk were the most honourable. Oooops, I guess that this is a regional thing Like what Math said (I say opa to the big mofo Math).

American patriots appreciate just how lucky they are to live in this country. They understand how many people sacrificed everything to get us to this point, and how many more sacrifices will have to be made to keep us here. True patriots don't go around telling people from other countries how superior Americans are to them. They don't hate anybody who hasn't exhibited a hatred for America first, and they're perfectly willing to let other countries be, just as long as they don't threaten America's interests.

As does every single leftist who lives in anything above the terrible conditions in some nations. I'm fucking proud to be in Canada and appreciate what I have so much. The things that are said here are despicable. Like I said, there is a definite difference between Patriotism and Jingoism. I have no problem with Patriotism, but Jingoism is a big deal. Moreover, what constitutes a threat? Military, economic, what? That is a definition problem.

Patriotic Americans also understand that you can't build up your country if you spend all your time trying to tear it down, and I've yet to meet a liberal who hasn't attempted to wreck some aspect of American culture at some point in their lives.

Examples, please.

While it is the right, and even the duty, of all Americans to question their government from time to time, ridiculing the American culture, and demeaning the remarkable efforts of our ancestors simply because some of them did horrible things, is as contemptible as it is narrow-minded.

Remarkable efforts or not, if your ancestors helped the slaughter of the Roma in the 1940s. Or your ancestors are Armenian Muslims who killed millions of Christians. Question, and analyze. Do not bask in the pride of this. And besides, democracy is founded on change and questioning. The ultimate duty of any citizen in a democracy is to question the government and society at large to see that the equality of the citizenry as a whole can be improved and that freedom reigns. Nobody, on the left or the right is trying to take away freedoms. Although I'd say that the modern extreme right is just as bad as the historical extreme left in what it does.

Liberals love to preach to the rest of us about tolerance and understanding, but when put to the one test that matters the most, they reveal themselves to be as intolerant as any group of people can be. They act as if there's something wrong with Americans choosing to embrace all that is good and right about our country, instead of habitually focusing on its faults, and I for one resent their attitude.

It's good to understand what's good and bad. If you can see the faults and fractures of your nations, contrast it with the good and see how you can fix these holes. That's what lots of leftists do. Look at Micheal Moore, he dislikes a lot of things in America, but if you listen closely, as much of a hyper-douche as he is, he still loves his nation. He loves the people. And he loves his rights. Just like Leg, or the dude that wrote this article does. But I resent this guy's attitude that all "liberals" preach this stuff. Because I know I'm damned tolerant of other views, but to say that I disagree with them and oppose them is what everyone does. It's called discourse, and it is what makes change happen.

America may not be the best it can be, but it's a whole hell of a lot better than the socialist utopia envisioned by people on the left these days. Given the choice between associating with some whiny, blame-America-first liberal, or a proud, flag-wavin' redneck, all I've got to say is toss me one o' them there brews, Bubba, and fire up the barbecue!

I'd rather associate with the latter, because I hang around with tonnes of flag-waving rednecks who drink beer and eat off the barbeque while I strum on my banjo while being pro-union, pro-choice and damned Communist pinko-socialist democratic fools. Besides, the first one doesn't really exist in the way this guy paints it

And how can something imperfect compare to a utopian dream world. Just wondering .

But as for the truth of his comment. Ummmm, this guy needs to read Marx before he makes assumptions on the left. Because really, he is equating socialism and all leftist thought to communism. Which is W-R-O-N-G.

In the words of the late John Wayne, "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be."

I wave my Canadian flag about with all her faults and societal problems with pride. Ain't nothing to be ashamed of. But to gloss over the historical wrong-doings of my nation, and every other nation IS something to be ashamed of.


(edited by Emperor Ziffatine on 05-15-05 07:34 AM)
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Permabans are pretty much acknowledged at this point to be revokable and impermanent. All of the things that he has done in the past are basically moot and such.
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Posted on 05-16-05 12:20 AM, in wow...just wow.....xbox360 Link
*yawn*

I bought the X-Box because I liked Halo. I liked Ninja Gaiden. I liked the games.

I didn't buy the PS2 because most RPGs lose themselves on me because I tire of circular storylines. But then again, I like RPGs alot, I just NEVER finish them

I didn't buy the Gamecube because...Welll...My parents wouldn't have it. Next generation though, I intend to purchase all the systems.

I'm a relatively hardkore OMGLOLOL FU no000bs gamer at times. I just don't have $$$ to feed the habit.
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I NEED ANIME CONNECTIONS.

FOOLS!
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Posted on 05-16-05 03:27 AM, in Happy 10k for me! Link
Originally posted by Toxic
Damn, SomerZ was one posting machine way back when!


He was un-fucking-stoppable.
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It's good beer. Who cares about the song?
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