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Vystrix Nexoth

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Posted on 03-16-04 12:57 PM, in linux distro Link
I haven't installed linux yet. the only one I've used so far is knoppix, that boots off a CD and runs in RAM. I do have RH on-hand, though, and when I finally install linux on this comp I'll use that, mainly because it's a more mainstream distro, which I can use until I become more comfortable with- and knowledgable about- linux, at which point I could make a more informed decision about which distro to use.

for the time being, though, I'm still using Win98SE.
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Posted on 03-16-04 03:23 PM, in Sedna - Any thoughts? Link
it's Gaea (pronounced "jee-ah") in Greek mythology. she's one of the higher-ups in the god/goddess hierarchy (at the top, I believe, with Chaos ("kah-os")).

back on topic: this Quaron (or w/e) is bigger than Sedna... why isn't it being considered a candidate planet?

and just where is the line drawn between "planet" and "planetoid" or w/e? without one, one might say that there are hundreds or thousands of planets in our system... most of which are in the asteroid belt.
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Posted on 03-16-04 03:29 PM, in sorry, this is just a test to make sure the postbit is okay Link
you cannot. only a moderator or administrator can.
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Posted on 03-16-04 03:34 PM, in Suggestion for Acmlm.overclocked.org Link
the overclocked page should not redirect here, only link. if it redirects here, people who were not aware of the move might think that it never moved at all, and thus continue to use the overclocked URI in their bookmarks.

I think it's fine the way it is. the board backup ought to be reloaded there, though (under acmlm.overclocked.org/oldboard/ or the like)
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Posted on 03-17-04 01:08 AM, in The best worst UT/UT2K3/UT2K4 maps Link

AS-Columbine

Objectives: 1) get weapons 2) enter school 3) leave no survivors. for best results, use only 2 players on attacking team.


DOM-ComputerIndustry

Control the three checkpoints (Desktop OS, CPU, Video Card) to dominate the computer industry!


CTF-WMD

Take your enemy's weapons of mass destruction before they take yours...


CTF-SourceCode

Valve's favorite UT map. or not.


DM-HolyWars

whether it's your favorite linux distro, browser, game series, or anything you like, pwn all the other clearly inferior ones here!



and the best of the worst...


BR-goatse

'Nuff said.



any ones I missed?
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Posted on 03-17-04 07:13 AM, in The best worst UT/UT2K3/UT2K4 maps Link
...the point of this thread was to come up with humorous map names for UT, not really to actually discuss real maps.

here's a hint: it's called reading the first and second post of a thread before posting a reply.


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Posted on 03-17-04 11:05 AM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
heh. well, this was a more-or-less active thread on the old board at the time of its demise. a recent news blurb on TV prompted me to re-create this thread.

turns out that Oregon is gradually allowing same-sex marriages. earlier this month, Multnomah county (in which Portland is located) started issuing same-sex marriage licenses; now Benton county (in which Corvallis is located) has voted to do the same, and will start issuing the licences later this month (26th or so).

this is totally cool. *proud to be an Oregonian during this time*
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Posted on 03-17-04 12:11 PM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
you're right. next thing you know you can marry a ROCK! a ROCK, I say! and people will stop believing in God


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Posted on 03-17-04 12:31 PM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
And that's sad really. That is, the path we're on. What in 100 years? Murder is legal?

I told you to look up "snowball theory". do so. go look it up, search online, something.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it doesn't apply and it's irrelevant. You heard something you didn't like, thus you're trying to get rid of it as quickly as possible. Doesn't work that way. My point was just and holds much weight.

conversely: you don't like the idea of gay marriage, so you try to heap as many other things you don't like on top of it and offer them as a comparison to, or, following the snowball theory, eventual result thereof.

when certain states/counties/countries/whatever start allowing adult-child/parent-child/living-dead/human-animal/whatever-whatever marriages, then they're relevant. but, alas, they are no more relevant than is the price of tea in china.

Oh really now? Besides lessening the meaning of marriage in the first place? That is, the holy union between a man and a woman. By allowing the marriage of same genders, you LESSEN the meaning of marriage. You take away from it.

now you're going by the religious idea of marriage. I'm going by the legal definition. "separation of church and state" ring a bell? (although it would be nice if that were actually enforced... but that, in itself, is a different debate for a different day).
personally, I don't really care whether the church recognizes same-sex marriages or not. besides, if same-sex marriages are recognized in the eyes of the law, then the church doesn't have to recognize same-sex marriages... the law will.

Bringing the human nature closer together by going AGAINST the laws of nature? Heh, try explaining that one to me. If you can.

I acknowledge that same-sex couples are not strictly natural. neither are computers. I don't see you complaining.

besides, it's society being brought together... and society revolves around what humans do, not just what they are supposed to do.


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Posted on 03-17-04 01:13 PM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
First off, find where where I say I don't like the idea.

oh, only the hundred times or so* you've said that, basically, same-sex marriage is an insult to conventional, opposite-sex marriage, and will, inevitably, result in adult-child marriages human-goat marriages and murder and burnination and all those other cute and cuddly things.

I'm assuming that you don't like the idea of legalizing murder, or adult-child or human-goat marriages, of course. (for the record, neither do I). so having you associate gay marriage with these things has placed me under the impression that you don't like gay marriage. go figure.

* yes, hyperbole: I don't mean literally a hundred times or so.

I said I was against it.
that too.

There's a difference.
aye, but the difference is moot, as from what I can see, you both dislike and are against the idea of gay marriage.

People are getting worse and worse. No one can deny that. This whole new "wave" of different lifestyles is being more and more accepted just because it's being pushed against us so much that people have no choice but to accept it. Thus, the idea of gay-marriages is being considered "Ok" by many.
first, no, I do not deny that people are getting worse and worse.
second, consider this:
1) people are getting worse and worse
2) people are becoming more open to the idea of same-sex marriage.
that's obviously not coincidental.
and also, obviously, the idea of same-sex marriage is something that's bad. a good (vs. evil) person who fancies members of the same sex? surely not! (not to say that all homosexuals are good people. good/evil and straight/gay are independent things)

Um, I'm not sure if you knew this or not but the legal definition of marriage IS the union of a MAN and a WOMAN.

well, that's kind of the whole point to this thread: that that definition is starting to change.

Apples and oranges my friend. Apples and oranges.
ok. then is it natural to sit at your computer and stare at the screen instead of being out doing the whole hunter-gatherer thing?
(hmm... people used to do that, and we're not doing it anymore, and also, people are getting worse. so it must be bad. moving on...)

It's actually more of society deteriorating by defying the definition of marriage. People are doing whatever they want these days. Does that make it right? Of course it doesn't.

doesn't necessarily make it wrong either.

pop quiz: is love between two consenting non-blood-related living adults inherently wrong? oops, turns out they have the same hardware, which obviously is more important than who they are as people and the thoughts and feelings they share with/for one another.

Exactly, and with things such as this, we're throwing ourselves into utter chaos. This is only the beginning. Did you know there is actually a movement for marriage of minors to adults? I forget what the organization was called. Something like "Men for Boys" or something. If homosexual marriages are legal, then things like this are next. And it will get progressively worse and worse until people start declaring their love for goats, cars, and whatever wacky relationships people have.

people have been involved in homosexual relationships since recorded history, and probably before that too. and just now laws are starting to be made.
BTW, if people are getting worse (which obviously coincides with the increased awareness of homosexuality), but homosexuality has been around for a long time (including back in the past when society was better than it is now), maybe it has nothing to do with the world getting worse? fancy that.

We are systematically destroying the sacred meaning and definition of marriage whether you agree or not. (Both God's definition AND the law's. Doesn't matter which way you look at it.)

again, I leave the religious side of the argument to others who are interested in it. and "sacred" is not a term I've heard applied to any law yet, seeing as it's inherently a religious term.

again (again), I'm arguing from the legal standpoint, not the religious one. I doubt the church will recognize same-sex marriages anytime soon, but I'm not particularly worried about that. I live without religion (does that make me bad?), so church law concerning lifestyles is irrelevant to me, directly anyway.


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Posted on 03-17-04 01:26 PM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
agreed.
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Posted on 03-17-04 02:14 PM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
well, I'm still for the idea of leaving "marriage" for the churches, and in the legal sense of the word, changing it to "civil union". so a typical opposite-sex marriage would be 'marriage' according to the church and 'civil union' according to the law, and a typical same-sex marriage would not be a marriage in the eyes of the church, but would still be a civil union (in the law) just the same as for an opposite-sex couple.

and, if I may say so, legion, it sounds like you have little faith in humanity. there are still many good people out there. it can't be completely good, it can't be completely bad; it always balances itself out. that's my belief, anyway.
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Posted on 03-17-04 02:31 PM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
no, that's not what I meant. I meant, during our exchanges, I kept getting this "the world's going to hell" vibe from you: people are getting progressively worse/more evil/etc.
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Posted on 03-17-04 02:37 PM, in The sig seperater to be in a class... Link
right, just set the separator to "none", and then add your own separator at the start of the signature/footer block.
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Posted on 03-18-04 07:40 AM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
some points I'd like to make concerning this debate:

  1. if when you think of homosexuality, the very first thing that comes to mind is two men engaging in anal sex, then don't post in this thread.
    personally, I think the term "homosexuality" is misleading; it places too much emphasis on the "sex" part. for any couple, same- or opposite-sex, who they are as people, and the thoughts and feelings they share with/for one another... that's infinetely more important than which set of reproductive organs they happen to have.
  2. as kasumi said, christian law is irrelevant to non-christians. trying to use the bible to shoot down a pro-gay-marriage argument by a non-christian, is like trying to literally shoot someone by aiming at a picture on them on the computer screen.


and some arguments:

  1. suppose you have j. random same-sex couple. which is more important?
    • they are in love with one another. they share each other's thoughts and feelings, and have a deep emotional attachment to one another, which has remained true even in the face of all the anti-gay sentiment imposed on them.
    • they have the same reproductive organs
  2. as kasumi (I believe) said, if you think gay marriage is somehow an insult to the concept of marriage, then do you also think that marrying for money, or gettin' hitched by an elvis impersonator at a drive-thru marriage chapel in las vegas (and getting divorced the following morning), that those are not insults to marriage (assuming that it is an opposite-sex couple getting married).
    take a look at the evidence: straight people are more of an insult to marriage than gay people.
  3. here's another question on the same topic: is it not an insult to marriage to deny the right of a loving, adult, consentual couple to be married (or, more accurately, their ability to be married in accordance with their rights), because you don't agree with it?



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Posted on 03-18-04 08:54 AM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
well, she's not trying to make you, as a christian (or as a person in general), accept homosexuality. she's trying to make you agree with a change in law to allow same-sex marriage.

the topic is about law, not religion. so leave religion out of it.
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Posted on 03-18-04 09:26 AM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
this topic is about the fact that some places are starting to permit same-sex marriages, which is a legal topic, not a religious one. these are not church-sanctioned marriages being performed. these are law-sanctioned marriages.

the church does not like, recognize, or sanction same-sex marriages. we know this, we are not trying to debate this issue, nor are we trying to get them to change their view.

  • the law recognizing same-sex marriages
  • the church recognizing same-sex marriages

two different things.

marriage was created as a religious institution, but today it's two separate things: a religious institution, and a legal one. the church can marry two people but not have the law recognize it, and the law can marry two people but not have the church recognize it. same-sex marriages are the latter. the church does not recognize them, and they don't need to recognize them, and we're not trying to get them to recognize them. our concern right now is how the law views it.

and before you bring it up, I've said this twice in this thread (and again on IRC) and I'll say it again: yes, the law says marriage = man and woman (not everywhere, though, such as canada), but, the point of this thread is that that law is changing, as law-sanctioned same-sex marriages are being carried out in some places in the united states, such as in Multnomah and Benton counties in the state of Oregon.

and, no, we don't view you as homophobic. but we're starting to view you as someone who throws bibles at a non-religious issue, which is the idea of law-sanctioned (but not church-sanctioned) same-sex marriage.


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Posted on 03-18-04 09:38 AM, in Gay Marriage (again) Link
Originally posted by Legion
I already said various times that I was FOR civil unions. It would protect the meaning of marriage for us "holier-than-thou bible-thumping holy rollers" and at the same time give homosexuals their union which would allow them the same rights and recognition by the law.

well, in that case, touch
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Posted on 03-18-04 09:50 AM, in IRC Link
connect to forgetit.net in your IRC client, and join #acmlm.

you can do this in mIRC by typing:
/server netho.forgetit.net
and when it connects...
/join #acmlm
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Posted on 03-18-04 09:53 AM, in The sig seperater to be in a class... Link
oh, so that's what that option is for. I thought that the separator was hard-coded into the layout at posting time, and that the option selects which one you want to use on your own layout.
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