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Marijuana: Should it be legalized?
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Posted on 02-11-05 04:26 AM Link | Quote
I live in a city in which pot is Decriminalised. If you have a small quantity of the stuff, you get basically a slap on the wrist. No criminal record. You might get told off by the cops, but you don't get a nasty thing on your record.

Same for growing, up to I think it is 3 plants. Not a criminal offence.

Course, never having lived in a city in which pot IS a criminal offence, I can't say really how Adelaide's decriminalisation of pot has benefited society in comparison to somewhere else...
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Posted on 02-11-05 04:38 AM Link | Quote
Around here and most places in Canada, if cops bust you with the stuff, they usually just break your joint or pour it out into the snow or something without anything going on your record. They might even take it for themselves which is a real pisser. However, if your packing alot, like maybe an ounce, you don't get off too easy and probably will have some 'splainin to do.
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Posted on 02-11-05 05:45 AM Link | Quote
Whoa, whoa whoa, I thought it was legal in Canada.
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Posted on 02-11-05 05:56 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by windwaker
Whoa, whoa whoa, I thought it was legal in Canada.


Ummm...There are states in the US that have more progressive drug laws than us. Alaska it is more or less legal.

The fight is huge in Canada because it is a societal underpinning. It is used more than alcohol and is in more or less total acceptance as to being no worse than alcohol. Only a few people really refute that nowadays. The push for legalization is gaining strength, as 3 of the 4 major parties are for decriminlization. 2 of which are for legalization. I remember a certain Stockwell Day mentioning manditory minimum sentences for pot crimes. But we ignore that man.
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Posted on 02-11-05 08:21 AM Link | Quote
It is used more than alcohol

Crescent St. and Bishop St. on a Friday or Saturday night in Montreal, Ziff. BIIIIIIG win for the booze.

I gotta draw the line at actually selling it in stores; maybe smoke shops or something like that.
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Posted on 02-11-05 09:33 AM Link | Quote
Why would selling it in stores matter? They're going to get it anyway. I think it should be up to the owners, personally.

Then again, if there were certain regulations, that might not be a bad idea.
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Posted on 02-11-05 09:42 AM Link | Quote
By making it commercialized that would open it up to NAFTA, and thus US trade scrutiny (they're doing that right now with various herbal "remedies" that are beings old in Canada).

It should be a totally personal venture with little-to-no government control. Much like it is today...except you won't get slapped around for it no more.
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Posted on 02-11-05 10:22 PM Link | Quote
marijuna isn't any more dangerous than alcohol and alcohol is permitted there will be issues of underage usage and stuff but alcohol is also like that too. Money spent to find dealers who deal with marijuna can be used in other areas that probably need more of the help. Also, for certain people it helps. I can't say that for a few other substances out there...

I think the only thing stopping the legalization of marijuna are the people who make political decisions based on morals and morals, as we all know, are skewed depending on your background
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Posted on 02-12-05 06:14 AM Link | Quote
I dont see the point in legalizing it. Those who want to use it now find ways to get it, making it legal wouldnt make a big difference.
If it is legalized, I see it becoming the next cigarette.. sold to kids that really should not take up the habit.
But then again, Im more against drugs than most. So of course my answer will be no. Its bad enough the way it is.
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Posted on 02-12-05 08:37 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tarale
I live in a city in which pot is Decriminalised. If you have a small quantity of the stuff, you get basically a slap on the wrist. No criminal record. You might get told off by the cops, but you don't get a nasty thing on your record.

Same for growing, up to I think it is 3 plants. Not a criminal offence.

Course, never having lived in a city in which pot IS a criminal offence, I can't say really how Adelaide's decriminalisation of pot has benefited society in comparison to somewhere else...


When did this happen?
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Posted on 02-13-05 08:20 AM Link | Quote
No matter which way you slice it, it's obvious that more people will use it if it's legal and more accidents will be caused as a result.
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Posted on 02-13-05 08:24 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by The Dogan
No matter which way you slice it, it's obvious that more people will use it if it's legal and more accidents will be caused as a result.


Have you read any reports from Ampsterdam?

Marijuana use has gone DOWN. The facts are that legalized marijuana and decriminilized hard drugs actually reduce drug abuse. The allure of illegality to escape life is no longer there, so many teenagers decide to not do it if it isn't a symbol of rebellion anymore.
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Posted on 02-13-05 11:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by The Dogan
No matter which way you slice it, it's obvious that more people will use it if it's legal and more accidents will be caused as a result.
Well, alcohol causes similar effects like marijuana in the sense that judgement is impaired.

I think legalizing it will be better for the long run since as it pointed out, it will be regulated and when it is regulated, things are better off. However, it won't be easy in the States for getting it to be legalize because of the diversity in this country--which to me sometimes inhibits progress here...

But anyways, California has already made marijuana legal--although legal issues prevent it from takeing effect (well, I think California passed it to be legal--or was that medical marijuana?)
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Posted on 02-13-05 09:10 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by The Dogan
No matter which way you slice it, it's obvious that more people will use it if it's legal and more accidents will be caused as a result.


Just because you disagree with something, think twice about what you're saying, to avoid replies like this.

If it's legal, it can be more controlled, so that accidents don't happen. There can be laws about where you can smoke it, and how the marijuana is sold.
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I say yes, there is nothing wrong with it at all in my opinion. I would rather have a bunch of calm people around me instead of a bunch of stupid people and people who fall because they cannot handle some alcohol. I think this should be legal as nearly everyone has done it even "politics".


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Originally posted by windwaker


Just because you disagree with something, think twice about what you're saying, to avoid replies like this.

If it's legal, it can be more controlled, so that accidents don't happen. There can be laws about where you can smoke it, and how the marijuana is sold.


Either way, there'll be an increase in amount of drug users and thus, accidents. When alcohol was outlawed, there were less alcohol users.
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Originally posted by The Dogan
Originally posted by windwaker


Just because you disagree with something, think twice about what you're saying, to avoid replies like this.

If it's legal, it can be more controlled, so that accidents don't happen. There can be laws about where you can smoke it, and how the marijuana is sold.


Either way, there'll be an increase in amount of drug users and thus, accidents. When alcohol was outlawed, there were less alcohol users.


Originally posted by Ziffski
Originally posted by The Dogan
No matter which way you slice it, it's obvious that more people will use it if it's legal and more accidents will be caused as a result.


Have you read any reports from Ampsterdam?

Marijuana use has gone DOWN. The facts are that legalized marijuana and decriminilized hard drugs actually reduce drug abuse. The allure of illegality to escape life is no longer there, so many teenagers decide to not do it if it isn't a symbol of rebellion anymore.
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Originally posted by The Dogan
Originally posted by windwaker


Just because you disagree with something, think twice about what you're saying, to avoid replies like this.

If it's legal, it can be more controlled, so that accidents don't happen. There can be laws about where you can smoke it, and how the marijuana is sold.


Either way, there'll be an increase in amount of drug users and thus, accidents. When alcohol was outlawed, there were less alcohol users.

No... there would most likely be LESS accidents.

And read what Ziff said.
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Well something that has been said before many times is that drugs are used mainly because of the feeling. I really doubt that the number would go down drastically if its legalized due to the absence of a rebellious image.
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...If I can find the study in my mom's medical journals from last year...I'll tell you.

I can tell you that you are horrifyingly wrong in your perceptions of marijuana and its users.

"Well something that has been said before many times is that drugs are used mainly because of the feeling."

For the majority of people, it is a social image. We call these folks posers. Hardcore posers.

The studies from cities like Ampsterdam is that the majority of marijuana use is from tourists from countries where the drug is illegal. In fact, among Dutch use, the amount of marijuana being used is going down.
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