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Liquid Pi Experiment

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Posted on 02-10-05 05:50 PM Link | Quote
Not really, I find it much easier to learn how to use something hands on, than wading through a manual.
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Posted on 02-10-05 08:41 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Liquid Pi Experiment
Not really, I find it much easier to learn how to use something hands on, than wading through a manual.
The examples on PHP.net, explained per function, aren't huge tutorials. An example, in this case strlen().

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Description
int strlen ( string string )

Returns the length of the given string.

Example 1. A strlen() example
<?php
$str = 'abcdef';
echo strlen($str); // 6

$str = ' ab cd ';
echo strlen($str); // 7
?>
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How is that in any way more complicated or more work than going through someone's else code and look for it?
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Posted on 02-10-05 10:15 PM Link | Quote
I myself hate huge tutorials (usually; few are helpful) but PHP.net is essential if you want to learn new functions to go above and beyond something.

Like Narf said (omgiagreewtfman) it's just a list of functions, what they do, and how to use them. It's not like "Do this now: (#*&%@(&%(#@*&% Then do this: [more garbage]" it's just a refrence
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Posted on 02-10-05 11:42 PM Link | Quote
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that. I learn hands-on. All the mods I did for my AcmlmBoard? Done by "hands-on". I decided what I wanted to do, found the code that would work, copy/pasted it into a new file, and started messing around with it, until it did what I wanted it to.

I've tried php.net, and as I said, it doesn't work for me. That's just the kind of person I am.

Oh, and as for looking through the tons of code, I don't mind. Sometimes I see something that catches my intrest, and a new project is born from that. Generally, though, I just use the search function of my text editor to find what I'm looking for.
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Posted on 02-11-05 08:15 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elric
Php.net, and similar sites, are useless to me. I can't learn what I need to do by reading an indepth tutorial. I need to have something I can get hands on with, and mess with. It's how I learn.


Indepth tutorial? Dude, php.net is NOT an indepth tutorial site; it's full of scripts that people people post, and brief information about the functions.

edit: xk, narf, lolers.


(edited by windwaker on 02-11-05 04:16 AM)
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Posted on 02-11-05 09:24 PM Link | Quote
yah, actually php.net has some of the best documentation for any programming language i've seen. It has a well rounded and succinct list of all the functions as well as real-world usefull examples.
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Posted on 02-11-05 09:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elric
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that.
Originally posted by Elric
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that.
Originally posted by Elric
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that.

GET THAT.
It's the way he is, you can't change it.
I myself like the tutorials in php.net though.
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Posted on 02-11-05 10:27 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gavin
yah, actually php.net has some of the best documentation for any programming language i've seen. It has a well rounded and succinct list of all the functions as well as real-world usefull examples.
Indeed, I wish that there was a site like PHP.net for any programming language; where you can input a function what you're looking for and you're taken (or guided, in case you don't know what function you're looking for) to the actual example and tutorial page.

I remember getting annoyed at microsoft.com frequently in the past, when I was experimenting with VB 6.0 a lot. It's cluttered like hell and for some reason it never gives me the exact information I'm looking for.
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Posted on 02-12-05 11:26 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by knuck
Originally posted by Elric
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that.
Originally posted by Elric
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that.
Originally posted by Elric
As I said, that doesn't work for me. My grey matter doesn't work like that.

GET THAT.
It's the way he is, you can't change it.
I myself like the tutorials in php.net though.


knuck i'd like to ask you kindly what the fuck point you're trying to make? if it doesn't work for Elric, that's fine. Not everything works for all people. Just like php.net doesn't work as well for Elric, not-being-an-assclown doesn't work so well for you.

Different strokes for different folks.
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Posted on 02-15-05 02:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Elric
Php.net, and similar sites, are useless to me. I can't learn what I need to do by reading an indepth tutorial. I need to have something I can get hands on with, and mess with. It's how I learn.


Then I'm sure you've never checked php.net.
They're list on every function/command really helped me a lot when learning PHP.
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Posted on 02-15-05 07:19 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Coby
Originally posted by Elric
Php.net, and similar sites, are useless to me. I can't learn what I need to do by reading an indepth tutorial. I need to have something I can get hands on with, and mess with. It's how I learn.


Then I'm sure you've never checked php.net.
They're list on every function/command really helped me a lot when learning PHP.


What I don't get is how he said he learns best by examples and doesn't like php.net, while php.net has tons of examples for each function... I'm all out baffled on that one.
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