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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 8564/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by CoughSyrupAbuserMaybe one of them is, but well... for awhile ago I saw and read about a humanzee that acted more like a human than a chimp, according to people but well, it was from the early 20th century... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 3268/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Yes, and there are human children that live in close contact with wolves that turn out to act more like wolves than humans. Does that mean we are seeing a Hupin? No. We are simply seeing the product of higher level intelligent animals and the factors of conditioning on the psyche. |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 8316/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer Yeah, both animals and humans have rivals and such thing and we |
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CoughSyrupAbuser Goomba Level: 8  Posts: 12/23 EXP: 1680 For next: 507 Since: 03-15-05 From: Louisiana Since last post: 224 days Last activity: 229 days |
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That picture of the humanzee makes me shiver by some reason. Yeah... Gives me the creeps too. |
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Steak Zora Level: 35  Posts: 368/507 EXP: 278751 For next: 1185 Since: 03-16-04 From: Ohio University Since last post: 195 days Last activity: 195 days |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer Um...taxonomy of higher primates...humans included. (meaning, Order Primates, Superfamily Hominoidea, all members). And yes...that is a creepy-ass mofo. |
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Book Keeper ♫♫♫ n00blet ♫♫♫  Level: 21 Posts: 97/160 EXP: 49435 For next: 508 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wired Bookworm eat fresh! Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I realy think they are oversteping there bounds, they can say what they want, but it is very crule, Animals and Humans are not ment to be mixed. They think they are heling mankind... but they are making a big mistake. | |||
windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 1314/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| Uh, there aren't exactly, you know, black and white guidelines to what should/can happen. I don't really see how this is helping mankind, but I don't think the result animal is struggling to say "kill... me...". | |||
Cruel Justice XD Level: 55  Posts: 712/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| It's very complicated. You cannot just make a super soldier, there are many limits to consider. The whole situation is like trying to use your fingers to block leaks on your boat when there are too many holes in hard to reach places. You can't do it and you'll just screw yourself over. First you've got to introduce the many sicknesses to this so-called "super soldier" and hope to merciful god that it does'nt just croak over and die. After the first success you STILL have to make sure it does'nt die. If it dies after 8 sicknesses, back to the ol' drawing board. It's bad enough that we would let them suffer. It's even worse to succeed in this sort of thing as well. The experiments can cause some terrible results such as a new and infectious virus eminating from the mutant causing people around it to die or the mutant has no brain power and kills everything it sees or it's smart enough to understand what it was made for and it will go mad. Overall it's interesting, but stupid. I don't think humankind is truly ready to undergo mutation. |
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iamhiro1112 Armos Level: 35  Posts: 297/487 EXP: 259927 For next: 20009 Since: 03-27-04 From: sd Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 7 days |
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| Damn, I hope I won't have to see that picture of Oliver again. I know it isn't a real humanzee, but I can't help but think of it when I look at the pic. He certainly seems humanistic. I guess out of curiousities sake I would like to see a human/animal hybrid. But I won't promote it in being made. Reading this thread reminds me of those covers of "Weekly World News". Batboy and Horse with a humans face specifically. Those pics crack me up. |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57  Posts: 438/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I saw that picture. You can see a lot of intelligence in it, if you know where to look. About the sicknesses, they can be genetically protected against. Why do you think small children are not given 100,000 vaccines? They get them from their parents! | |||
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Slay Level: 25 Posts: 30/339 EXP: 85592 For next: 4028 Since: 04-28-05 From: Threshold Between Heaven and Hell Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| No humanzee has ever been created, it's a myth thus far... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuman ...humans and apes aren't the same species, only creatures of the same species can breed. Humanzees would have to be genetically engineered, they can't just happen through sex or what have you. My take on the situation is that limits shouldn't be imposed on chimera creation. As long as animal rights are upheld and any creatures created aren't abused, there is nothing objectionable about progressing this fascinating science. We already breed and slaughter animals for food, why not for spare parts? The idea of a pig with a human liver and other parts is quite intriguing. Imagine if people no longer had to be put on donor lists and could just get what they need when they need it. This is just one more step towards the immortalization of the human species. Interspecies animals (sans human genes) are also a promising premise. What if we could create an animal the size of a cow with the taste and versitility of a pig and wool like a sheep? The prices of these products would decrease greatly since you get so much from one animal. What about creating a species of freshwater dolphin? Dolphins are already quite intelligent, we could use them like underwater blood hounds to find bodies in freshwater rivers and lakes, eliminating the need to call in divers. And since animal senses often outdo our own technological gadgets, the bodies could probably be found more quickly, as well. |
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francoispress Goomba Level: 8  Posts: 12/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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| I doubt making any kind of hybrid with a human is even possible due to the genetic difference between humans and any other animal. It was once believed that chimpanzees shared 98.4% of our DNA but now studies suggest that they may only share 95% which makes more sense. Humans look very different from apes. So it may be impossible to make any hybrid. |
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Slay Level: 25 Posts: 56/339 EXP: 85592 For next: 4028 Since: 04-28-05 From: Threshold Between Heaven and Hell Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| You misunderstand what a chimera is. A species can only breed with itself, that means that animal eggs or sperm can never be combined with human sperm or eggs to birth a new type of creature. Chimeras are not the offspring of two different species, they are otherwise normal creatures with foreign cells injected into the embryos. In this way, the traits of more than one creature can be manifest in a single being, regardeless of the bounds of species. | |||
Tails Shyguy Level: 15 Posts: 58/98 EXP: 13910 For next: 2474 Since: 04-10-05 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Since last post: 139 days Last activity: 10 days |
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| It's another step in the world of science, and it has to be done at one point, I guess.. ..that IS a bit freaky, though  |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 9694/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by SlayDonkeys and horses have bigger genetical diffrence than Humans have against Chimps. Donkeys and horses can get offspring, look it up. Althought the offspring can't breed further.  And there is Lion/Tiger hybrids. I think it's possible. (edited by Kitty Jedi on 05-17-05 06:53 PM) |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 9566/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Kitty Jedi Yeah, I remember the Liger. It looked pretty cool. JUst put some animals of different specie and gender in a big cage or room and see if they |
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Slay Level: 25 Posts: 75/339 EXP: 85592 For next: 4028 Since: 04-28-05 From: Threshold Between Heaven and Hell Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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The Kitty Jedi says... Lions and Tigers are of the same species. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger And by definition... http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=species ...since donkeys and horses can mate to form mules and hinnies, they are of the same species. Though if you get into technicalities, since mules and hinnies are sterile, they technically are not. Mules are a strange exception to many "rules" that we humans think we've discovered. They are an attestation to the fact that nature works in ways we cannot classify or orginize perfectly or neatly. Even moreso is the fact that hinnies (female mules) have given birth by horse or donkey fathers (never by mule fathers) numerous times in history, though it is an extremely rare occurance. I laugh, because the more we try to explain the basics of life, the more we realize that we don't know a thing about them! But since we are never satisfied with just accepting things as they come, the charade continues. |
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Tanookirby Bullet Bill Level: 30 Posts: 16/509 EXP: 152637 For next: 13232 Since: 05-09-05 Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Try these two link for some hybrids: http://www.nbc10.com/news/3450567/detail.html http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2005/05/09/daily61.html Aren't they interesting? As for combing human and animal DNA, let me know if they can create a human with gills. |
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Bio Buster Beetle Level: 27  Posts: 100/458 EXP: 107144 For next: 9015 Since: 07-06-05 From: a laboratory somewhere... Waiting to be completed Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I don't really like these animal-human hybrid thing Its may reverse evolution processing, I prefer another project the artificial evolution they manage with that to give a rat the size of a big dog only with muscle I think than DNA Improve Is better than DNA mixing Note: The artificial evolution will be released for human in ten year, can't wait to improve myself Note2:Human are mutated monkey proff we got 36 chromosome and monkey got 38, only mutation can remove chromosome (edited by Bio on 08-17-05 11:03 AM) |
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Thayer Fuzz Ball Level: 38  Posts: 79/988 EXP: 349428 For next: 21019 Since: 06-28-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Slay Biological species concept is out- http://research.amnh.org/ornithology/crossbills/species.html http://www.stanfordalumni.org/birdsite/text/essays/Species_and_Speciation.html http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/ http://members.aol.com/darwinpage/mayrspecies.htm http://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/2900_Species.htm http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/catalog/data/023110/0231101422.HTM http://www.palaeos.com/Systematics/Linnean/Species.htm And the article you linked to about "Ligers" is further linked to an article on the GENUS Panthera (not a SPECIES), which says that lions and tigers are different species. ;[ |
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