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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1038/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Running Windows viruses in Wine! Interesting read... |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1191/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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You know, I've ran viruses in Wine before. I can't remember what I ran though, this was over a year ago now. I just wanted to see what would happen... (not much) | |||
Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 19/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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This is an outrage! At this rate, WINE and even ReactOS will never be able to offer a truly Windows Windows experience, to which viruses and trojans are essential. I swear I've read an article just like that one somewhere before. I think most of the security problems with Windows could have been eliminated by taking out Outlook Express and Active X. Limiting some scripting and macro abilities in certain programs might help too. Basically, MS should've thought about security from the beginning, instead of looking at it as an afterthought. So, do you have any relation to the FreeDOS project? I ask because I used to mess with FreeDOS a few years back on a $50 laptop I bought. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1039/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Nah, I'm not related to any one in the FreeDOS project. I named myself this after an early name-change fad at this board. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7426/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Heh, i'm not sure how Wine works. It tries to simulate Windows own filesystem for the Windows programs so I wouldn't be surprised if some virus could destroy data even on Linux. But only in certain folders. After all you have to be in root to mess with the most crucial files in Linux. | |||
Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 1321/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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It's not just MS that have neglected security, though. Some prominent Linux guy (Boy, that was descriptive. ) basically took the community to task for not focusing more on security. Of course, given the very pro-Linux attitude of /., you'll never see that on their front page (Despite the fact it was a slashdot link that made me find the article in the first place). | |||
Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 20/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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I honestly don't know what to think about GNU/Linux security, since I never really analyzed the specifics of the situation by looking at specific projects. Most of the code contributed to Free Software projects is written with the focus of adding new functionality or fixing bugs in functionality, and there aren't regular security audits on most open source code with the exception of projects like OpenBSD. It's always made me wonder about just how secure Linux really is. Like you hinted at with /., the general attitude in the community tends to work against implementing processes to improve security in Free and Open Source Software, since nobody is willing to confront the issue openly for fear of how it would look (they become just as bad as those they criticize) or because it runs against what people keep telling themselves (dogmatically believing that it can't be true). The development model used tends to take up a more "trial and error" approach anyway, which is why so much code gets rewritten as people realize the original approach was flawed. I can't list how many times I've seen this happen. Still, that mostly impacts low-cost servers and academia, since most regular computer users don't use Linux or BSD. |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 6957/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Yeah, it was pretty interesting. The only virus that could do bad things to linux was SomeFool which I haven |
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