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Tarale
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Posted on 11-15-04 05:23 PM Link
Thanks for the explanation, Jesper.

While I agree that Erk did not do well in his role as administrator (I personally found he could've handled the role with more integrity and class), I don't think it's exactly fair to have a mass Erk-bashing thread either.

I agree with a lot of the stuff said in this thread. In fact, I agree with a great deal of it, and I do not believe that Erk was well suited to the role of Administration at Acmlm's Board.

HOWEVER, I also think that Erk did make a lot of valuable contributions to the board, and I don't think he deserves this kind of treatment either.

I'd like to thank Erk for hosting the board.

And I'd like to hope that Erk steps down from his role gracefully, and understands why this happened. I hope that despite how things were handled, that there will be no hard feelings.
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Posted on 11-15-04 05:41 PM Link
*shakes head* the only thing I ever did as an admin here was Ban Xkeeper..... and I don't even remember banning max, I was probably drunk, but whatev....
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Posted on 11-15-04 06:04 PM Link
Originally posted by ErkDog
*shakes head* the only thing I ever did as an admin here was Ban Xkeeper..... and I don't even remember banning max, I was probably drunk, but whatev....
Being drunk is not a good excuse... not for anything really.
Originally posted by Jesper
He's been a nice guy a lot of the time, but he excelled at thinking that he was the greatest thing since sliced bread and that anyone who ever questioned him should be going the way of the sword.
Well, I see what you mean. Hell I remember the most silly things sometimes. Once I did hit him by mistake in gunbound = instand kill in IRC (this happened for long time ago, still similar incidents happened afterwards too...). Erk, you need to be more calm sometimes.

But well, thanks for hosting the board. You actually really did save our asses back then... otherwise the board maybe would gone for even longer time.


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ErkDog

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Posted on 11-15-04 06:33 PM Link
I'm sure I probably removed the ban in like 3 seconds anyway.... and surely you would have known I was just joshing around if I killed you cause you attacked me in a game
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Posted on 11-15-04 07:19 PM Link
Yes, Erk really did step up at a time when it was needed and has been very generous in hosting this place. For that I thank him.
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Posted on 11-15-04 07:47 PM Link
New host?

w00t


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(edited by Smallhacker on 11-15-04 10:48 AM)
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Posted on 11-15-04 07:56 PM Link
I guess I should just go along with everyone in saying woohoo...oh well, new server, happens all the time, at first when I tried to go to board.acmlm.org i though something bad happened again..but I can see it was something just the opposite.
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:10 PM Link
and that's about the biggest half truth ever Jesper.... re: board development....
windwaker

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Posted on 11-15-04 08:19 PM Link
Erk, if I bash you, will you still host me?


(edited by windwaker on 11-15-04 11:19 AM)
Colleen
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:21 PM Link
I'm not going to deny that Erk really helped us out when we were in a tight situation in March. But things just went downhill from there... and what happened last night is probably the best solution.
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:28 PM Link
well, since I don't know much about how Erk was as an admin, since I didn't see any behind the scenes.... I can't comment...

but I do know what kind of an admin he is.... having seen his finest work on a regular basis in other places.... and like I said before.... I'm surprised he stayed this long....

but I think this is for the best.... certain people have a history of bad luck as admins.... some people just don't do it well.... and Erk is one of them... at least when it comes to working with others.... he does a fantastic job of being a tryrant on his own
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:29 PM Link
You do realize that damn near everyone was offering to host the board in the downtime and not only Erk, right?

Erk got it because of boasting how kickass his server was (and assumably a few other things)


I also note that yes, as an admin all you did was ban me, but as an Acmlmboard developer, you abused that too (read Jesp's post(s))

Oh well. I'm just glad to be rid of him
Colleen
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:31 PM Link
1) How kickass his server was;
2) He was offering us free hosting.

At least the hosting WAS good. I can't complain about that in itself.
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:44 PM Link
Like so many else have said, we weren't doing this because of the qualities of the actual hosting (it was good if not great), we were doing this because of the things Erk did outside of hosting us, or for the liberties he took just because he was hosting us.

Edit: Rename thread. For everlasting clarity.


(edited by Jesper on 11-15-04 11:54 AM)
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Posted on 11-15-04 08:55 PM Link
Originally posted by Jesper
Edit: Rename thread. For everlasting clarity.
The orginal title should be somewhere thought...

At least, it's less confusing. Hopefully none will create more threads like I did...

And hey, why still no annoucment?
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Posted on 11-15-04 09:19 PM Link
Woa. It feels like someone changed your pants while you were sleeping, if you sleep with pants on that is.
I had no idea of this until...it happened. It's funny though. But I agree with Jesper, nothing wrong with the hosting, I just personally don't want the hoster to be involved with the content of what he's hosting. If you get what I mean.

It feels so retro, old emunet back. Ah, the days.
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Posted on 11-15-04 09:19 PM Link
I only did ONE Admin related thing since I was an admin anyway... so that's completely irrelevant...

other than changing the images at the bottom of the board... I didn't put ANY thing or do ANYTHING that wasn't agreed upon by you and I Jesper so don't even bother trying to say otherwise....

I 'took no liberties' whatsoever, other than removing a paypal button....

nor did I do anything else administratively with this forum during the time I was an admin....

so other than banning XKeeper, and changing the images at bottom of the board, I took no "liberties" whatsover, and if you try to say I did, you are just lying out right...

and geeogree, I'll say it again, I did nothing "adminish" other than ban Xkeeper... except for fixing people's profiles and adding forums at the behest of other admins,

and if you read the threads regarding those things, I made sure there was -plenty- of support from the other admins, before I even did stuff like that

so don't give me this tyranny bullshit, I didn't tyranize anything or exert any kind of power or control over this board... and you know it Jesper.... so stfu
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Posted on 11-15-04 09:39 PM Link
No comment.

I'm just waiting for the DNS to update so that the board.acmlm.org url points here.
Jesper
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Posted on 11-15-04 09:47 PM Link
Originally posted by ErkDog
I only did ONE Admin related thing since I was an admin anyway... so that's completely irrelevant...

other than changing the images at the bottom of the board... I didn't put ANY thing or do ANYTHING that wasn't agreed upon by you and I Jesper so don't even bother trying to say otherwise....

I 'took no liberties' whatsoever, other than removing a paypal button....

nor did I do anything else administratively with this forum during the time I was an admin....

so other than banning XKeeper, and changing the images at bottom of the board, I took no "liberties" whatsover, and if you try to say I did, you are just lying out right...

and geeogree, I'll say it again, I did nothing "adminish" other than ban Xkeeper... except for fixing people's profiles and adding forums at the behest of other admins,

and if you read the threads regarding those things, I made sure there was -plenty- of support from the other admins, before I even did stuff like that

so don't give me this tyranny bullshit, I didn't tyranize anything or exert any kind of power or control over this board... and you know it Jesper.... so stfu
This isn't just the board, this is IRC too, where we have reliable witnesses that you abused your powers. It proves your behavior was consistent but that you didn't exert your power on the board as much (probably because it'd be too obvious). We decided to switch over both the board and IRC based on principle and common sense. (If you found out one of your friends was a burglar you'd strip him of all keys to your house, not just one.)

Oh, and there were plenty of IRCops on GamePit agreeing with our point of view as of the last time I was there. Just saying.
Tamarin Calanis

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Posted on 11-15-04 10:06 PM Link
Well, I knew there'd be two possible outcomes to this situation.

And I congradulate the admins on picking the right one.

I'm not gonna say anything else, because you all probably know my opinions on the issue. And if you don't, take it to PMs - I'm not going to post it publicly (again) and get banned for it (again).


(edited by Cheveyo Chowilawu on 11-15-04 01:06 PM)
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