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Raistlin the Red Robed

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Posted on 10-20-04 10:47 PM Link | Quote
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main

I don't know what to think about this...

And I also don't know how to make that a cool linky. Help meh.


Edit: Made cool linky. -N




(edited by Raistlin the Red Robed on 10-20-04 02:03 PM)
(edited by NSNick on 10-20-04 03:50 PM)
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Posted on 10-21-04 12:41 AM Link | Quote
heh, i thought this was going to be "Find the Boeing? Conspiracy" thing.

anyways, this is very provocative. good points are made and well, looks like there will never been answer. The Pentagon incident is similar to JFK assassination, we know what happened at the end, but we will never know of the stuff leading up to it.
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Posted on 10-21-04 12:54 AM Link | Quote
And then, look at this. (not saying it's the truth or anything, just want to view a diffrent side of opinion)

Now, I do wonder. Why would US hide that something else than a boeing hit Pentagon? For keeping people calm? Dosen't make sense...
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Posted on 10-21-04 01:02 AM Link | Quote
Because the US goverment is corrupt? I
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Posted on 10-21-04 02:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Why would US hide that something else than a boeing hit Pentagon? For keeping people calm? Dosen't make sense...


To hide that they did it prehaps?


This is the same country that in the 1960's tried to pass a bill that would have them commit acts of terrorism against US CITIZENS to try to get the people go to war with Cuba. JFK refused to sign it.
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Posted on 10-21-04 02:13 AM Link | Quote
^

Um reference please?
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Posted on 10-21-04 02:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
^

Um reference please?


http://www.rationalrevolution.net/us_military_drafted_plans_for_do.htm
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/dailynews/jointchiefs_010501.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20041012150551488
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/BodyOfSecrets.html
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2839operation_northwds.html


And if you're going to give me a "America would never do something like that". I can give links when America covered up Axis warcrimes for our own personal gain


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Posted on 10-21-04 02:34 AM Link | Quote
The biggie: If the plane didn't crash into the Pentagon, then where the hell did it go?

There are lots of sites out there thoroughly debunking everything in the trippy flash movie. Go Google.
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Posted on 10-21-04 03:10 AM Link | Quote
Jesper- The point of it was it wasn't a plane crash.

The reason the government might cover it up is because if it was infact, a missle, it went by undetected (or even a small military plane for that matter) and this would send a message that our radars are weak, encouraging further missle attacks.
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Posted on 10-21-04 04:09 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Raistlin the Red Robed
Jesper- The point of it was it wasn't a plane crash.

The reason the government might cover it up is because if it was infact, a missle, it went by undetected (or even a small military plane for that matter) and this would send a message that our radars are weak, encouraging further missle attacks.
Good point, but there was still a hijacked plane going somewhere. After all, if the plane wasn't hijacked, the passengers would still be alive, right? Unless the plane just happened to crash in a super secret location that they have quieted down. It all sounds too far-fetched to me.
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Posted on 10-21-04 05:42 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
Originally posted by Raistlin the Red Robed
Jesper- The point of it was it wasn't a plane crash.

The reason the government might cover it up is because if it was infact, a missle, it went by undetected (or even a small military plane for that matter) and this would send a message that our radars are weak, encouraging further missle attacks.
Good point, but there was still a hijacked plane going somewhere. After all, if the plane wasn't hijacked, the passengers would still be alive, right? Unless the plane just happened to crash in a super secret location that they have quieted down. It all sounds too far-fetched to me.


Jesper : do not try and find the plane, that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. There is no plane.


(edited by Gavin on 10-20-04 08:43 PM)
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Posted on 10-21-04 06:08 AM Link | Quote
Its cute how desperately people want to believe they're being lied to.

Everyone wants to be a victim.
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Posted on 10-21-04 06:31 AM Link | Quote
Shut up Garmichael! You're lying to me!
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Posted on 10-21-04 08:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Garmichael
Its cute how desperately people want to believe they're being lied to.

Everyone wants to be a victim.


Tchh. It's the other way around. People desperately want to know the truth. And unless you're an insider in the government, how the hell do you know? I'm not saying go out and be a conspiracy theorist, but a little skepticism will never hurt you.

Furthermore, I don't believe it's often that ordinary people are lied to by authorities, rather critical details are omitted to soften/sterilize news. Far more happens in the world than what you see on CNN.
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Posted on 10-21-04 08:15 AM Link | Quote
I think a healthy dose of cynicism is always a good thing when it comes to governments. They have been known to lie to people before... there's nothing to say that they aren't lying, and won't lie again either.

Do you trust people who have lied to you before? Generally not, you're usually a little wary of what they say in future.

Same should go for governments.

Not saying that they are lying, or whatever, just saying that it is quite healthy and good to question these things....
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Posted on 10-21-04 12:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
Unless the plane just happened to crash in a super secret location that they have quieted down.


Area 51, maybe? There
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Posted on 10-21-04 01:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tarale
Not saying that they are lying, or whatever, just saying that it is quite healthy and good to question these things....
Exactly, US goverment hadn't been known for telling the truth all the time. The same with many goverments infact.

I actually like when people have consipriaea (spelling?) like this one, as long the ones who belive it really happened tell us.

Uh, ok. A missile crashed against it, so US is weak and people would be panicked by that? And well... if it was a missile, wouldn't more people see it?

...is there any witness at all?
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Posted on 10-21-04 01:53 PM Link | Quote
Well, we had those cameras that filmed it and people would
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Posted on 10-21-04 08:43 PM Link | Quote
Yes, and that's the weird thing, if the government has nothing to hide, why doesn't the FBI release the videos from the cameras that filmed the crash?
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Posted on 10-21-04 10:42 PM Link | Quote
I was thinking the same thing...they have pictures videos and all kinds of stuff for the trade center, and on-the-scene coveradge. The pentagon? they barely talked about it, like it was an afterthought. Or not.
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