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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 689/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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| I never thought I'd find the damn thing in these parts, but SO2 actually got released in Europe, it's just that no one knew <<; I've been following SO3 news, being happy it'll have a 2 player mode and all that, so I was glad to find out the previous game was being sold second hand for really cheap here, and since I don't have anything better to do, it's been fun. The game comes with the most awful manual I've ever read, not explaining even half of what you should know when starting out the game -.-; The private action crap is just scrolling through more text for me, so I just kinda skipped that altogether, only to find out now I'll be missing a decent character. Oh well. Another thing that bothers me every now and then is the steep difference in difficulty; you'll be fighting things you can kill in one blow for shitty experience, and in the next area, you level up after every battle, if you survive, because the least damage you'll receive is atleast half your hp. I see why such a thing would happen to my mages, but not my fighters when they're equipped with the best buyable stuff.. It sucks, cause they have to go up and close to do damage. No one likes dying, especially not in a random encounter -.- I'm playing through Rena's scenario, cause she looked nicer than the fluffy hair dude. Is there any use in going through the game through Fluffy's scenario? I read it's basically the same story from a different PoV, so I'll pass up on instantly replaying if that's the case. I basically would appreciate some handy pointers and tips and such, because this game has so many different things to level up and do that I get a bit insane when I seemingly screwed up again. Like for the skills, does it really matter who learns what? which stats actually matter enough to develop? (so far, I've just stuck to stats I could guess what they did, i.e. int for mages, str for fighters, etc.) Any fans or know-it-alls here? <<; |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 1867/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| "Another thing that bothers me every now and then is the steep difference in difficulty..." You haven't seen NOTHING yet.  Just wait until the last few hours of the game. Holy fucking shit.  I like Claude's scenario more. He has this one uber-pwnge move. I forogt what it was called because it's been so long since I've played it, but it's the one where he make a bunch of earth spikes come out of the ground. Hits for mutliple damage. You get it somewhat early in the game and I ended up using it for the duration of it. |
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Joachim Mole Level: 30  Posts: 191/358 EXP: 165561 For next: 308 Since: 03-15-04 From: Neo Kobe Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Yeah, So2 gets pretty intense, and it's LONG on your first run, if I remember it took me 50 hours to beat my first time playing. | |||
Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44  Posts: 137/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Legion And a big "wurd" to that. Just wait til you try Galaxy and Universe difficulties. 
That would be Ripper Blast. Very fast, very quick to execute move, and once your proficiency is high enough, it can even hit some airborn enemies. If you don't get the Eternal Sphere or are lacking a good power move, Mirror Slice is probably what you want. That starts out with 4 hits, but when powered up I think 10-12 hits. I usually use Ripper Blast or Dragon Howl until I get my setup ready. Too bad Mirror Slice is level 70...
Level 38 actually, (and I had to cheat to find out.) If you have any Mind Rings, give one to Claude. Alouette, a good power team is in Rena's scenario. If you recruit Ashton, it's just a matter of the almighty third person to make your power team. Spoiler: The third being Dias, who you will get around the half point of the game. There's many things in detail that would be helpful. This game is quite involved in many aspects. That's a lot to post, but I'll give it a go. 1: About Pickpocket, it's one attempt per person. And only your main character can do the Pickpocketing. To do Pickpocketing, you must have a Bandit's Glove. You can buy it for 40,000? FOL in the port town of Hilton. To have success with Pickpocket, that character must have the talent Dexterity, and you need the skills Poker Face and Courage. Not only do you need those, but the Pickpocketing skill must be at least level 7 for 50-50 success. (That's WITH Dexterity.) To learn Dexterity, you can do Machinery or Metalwork. 2: Unlocking a talent for any character nabs them 100 skill points. 3: There's a really good level building spot at the beginning of the game once you get past Salva. There's a mountain on the left side, save just before the entrance, and enter. Stay near the entrance, and run around until you find little purple balloons. They can't kill you, and are good experience kills. Personally, this is good enough to get to level 30.  4: Rena's healing gets better and better as she uses it. For effective healing, disable older healing spells. 5: There's an ultra hard bonus dungeon waiting for you at the end of the game if you can find it. 6: You can also make the final boss a much harder fight, if you can find that. Although not directly connected to, it is kind of related to the way of finding the ultra hard bonus dungeon. 7: Even though there are 12 characters, you can only recuit 6 other characters. (You always start with Claude and Rena.) 8: Persersearance is the way to saving skill points. It only takes 80 points to max out. The effect is that the cost for all skills to learn and build up is reduced significantly. 9: The second level building spot is in the "Sancuarty of Linga." (The cave nearby the town.) Again, stay near the entrance, and I hope you have endurance. The music is pretty terrible for this cave imo. Otherwise, the hopping bunnies are your target, but keep in mind to go after everything. The bunnies just give the most reward. I usually level build to about 40-45 here, 50 for extreme measures (like learning skills.) I have many more tips, but I think this'll do for now unless you want more. Just let me know. |
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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 750/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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| I've got ripper blast and mirror slice on, and even though ripper blast is probably at tope profiecency, he uses mirror slice all the time (I'm playing through Rena's scenario, and Claude's always on AI unless I need him to use an item or hit a specific enemy) I find it much easier to control Rena and pick which spells she needs to cast, rather than letting the AI cast fairy light when I only need cure light. being careful with her mp and trying to keep her from moving her around for decent stamina at the end of battle has saved me alot of times. When she did die and I switched to someone else to revive her, the AI would cast whatever healing spell costed the most at that moment. Which can be annoying when she's running low and you really needed her to restore/revive someone else  The rest of my team consists of Claude (I didn't know about the Eternal Sphere and sold Sharp Edge together with other outdated equipment when I needed money) and Ashton as my enemybait/stallers and Celine to soften them up or finish em off. She's always on use up all mp and they're both on protect friends. The first because that's the only way she'll actually use the best spell she can vs the correct enemy, and the latter because they'll keep the enemies away from my mages and use their moves at the same time. I don't like Dias. It might be because he didn't gain any levels from the first time he fought with me, or because of his arrogance, but I just like Ashton alot better, and he did a much better job at Dias' level than Dias did. As for your tips: 1. I already know that, but I decided against maxing guts and courage in favor of other stat enhancing skills. I'm somewhat at a point now where I have alot of skills maxed out and am maxing the 'leftovers', and for alot of characters, that's either guts or courage <<; 2. I found that out when I was cooking with Rena and she unlocked sense of taste. A nice bonus, but I just don't know if I really want to go all the way with each character, especially since some of them have a 0.something chance of learning a partical talent -.-; 3. I got to this place on Ashton's sidequest, but I only got Ashton after I already went to Lacour. The enemies outside of Lacour give similar experience, and that's where I gain some levels. 4. As with everyone's skills, ne? You could say that Celine's spells get better as she uses them more, too. I do like that touch where skills actually show that they get better as they get used more (i.e. Claud's ripper blast covers a fairly big area and reaches higher, Celine's southern cross spell has more stars in it that come dropping down, etc) 5. I read about it, and I might go for it, depending on how my team's doing when I reach Fienal's last save point. They're all late 70's at the moment and somewhere after defeating those bosses in Fun City. I haven't read a walkthrough yet, but I assume I'll be heading towards the end dungeon soon. 6. Doubtful I'll be doing that yet. I don't feel like going for lvl 200 or so really XD 7. And I didn't even need that many <<; I really have yet to find a use for Noel. He just sucks at everything <<; 8. I maxed it as soon as I read the description. It'd be nice if it was Claud's or Rena's starting skill, that way I wouldn't have used up skill points before getting it Effort is a pretty neat skill too, but I'm a bit in the dark as to how much it reduces exp needed. 9. I already was arounf 40 when I reached it, and the music made me slightly annoyed, so I got out of there after the boss fight (which seems to be optional  )I'd like some more leveling tips, given that I'm near the end of the game and don't know wether I should advance yet or beef up my levels first. I was thinking about the Field of Love, because I encountered a cube there that splitted up lots and wasn't too hard, but gave over 100 000 exp. I'll just need to equip my fighters with poison checks this time around The mages there are annoying though -.- But if you have a better overal suggestion (I encountered it only once. I hope it wasn't a one time thing, but I rather not risk it :/) And what level do you recommend to go into Fienal with? |
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Joachim Mole Level: 30 Posts: 195/358 EXP: 165561 For next: 308 Since: 03-15-04 From: Neo Kobe Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| When you hit the final save point of Fienal, you have 3 things, you can do the ovbious first choice, or do TWO OTHER choices that have been unlocked the moment your hero steps on the save point. If you want to have fun, do path #3, but DON'T do path #2 until you ALL your party members are all about lv 180+, otherwise, DO NOT SAVE after doing #2, or you will regret it. #1: Go on and fight the final boss. #2: Spoiler: Return to Central City, and go into a private action. Walk into the newspaper place and if you met Filia earlier in the Town of Clik, you will see her again. She talks about Indalecio's (the final boss) power limiter, and that he is ACTUALLY Dr. Lantis, and she is his daughter. Afterwards, go back to Fienal and fight Indalecio like normal, but this time he KILLS Filia and disables the limited, and Indalecio's HP doubles or something and is a HELL of a lot stronger. I got all my characters around level 150-ish, and I still can't kill him with ease when he lacks his limiter... #3: One of the greatest replay-value aspects... Spoiler: Ok, return to Fun City, and walk around the battle arena until you see an old man, he talks about your past and stuff and asks if you have any regrets... I think you say you do or something, then he transports you into Virtual Expel... that's right, you're BACK at Expel! Except, it's not all real... anyway, it's basically the same... same people, all the dungeons, and it's ALL on the second disc... some nifty things have been added though... YOUR SYNARD FOLLOWS YOU! Anyway, fly around in the ocean until you see a remote cave, it is called The Cave of Trials, go inside and prepare for the hardest battles of your life... and fight several bosses HARDER than Indalecio... When you want to return to Nede, simply talk to the newly added Penguin NPC behind the fence in Arlia Village.(edited by Ralphy Boy on 09-04-04 09:44 AM) (edited by Ralphy Boy on 09-04-04 09:48 AM) |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 142/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Alouette Those cubes are the best, because of the insane experience output. But to make that go even faster, use an Experience Card. (Easier if you make or find one, and reproduce it from there.) I think I've managed to get near 1 million experience before, although it's been almost a year since I've played. Not exact on that number. They are rare encounters, so you will need a little patience fighting them.
Well, to get a more "hidden" item, here's what you should do. Spoiler: After the storyline attempt at Fienal, and just before you are ready to make your return trip, head to Fun City. Enter via PA, and head towards the colliseum. (It's left.) You should see a cut scene. Let the story play out, then after you are brought to the Inn, and after the dialogue is done, talk to the bed ridden person, name I can't remember of the top of my head. Keep talking to her until you get a "Slayer's Ring." She'll give three items. This must be done before your return trip to Fienal. The Slayer's Ring gives any attacker added hits to their attack. One hit turns into three. A very deadly accessory, and it'll come in very handy. Then there's a very cheap money trick. Head to Central City, buy a Scyther. Have Ashton customize it with a Damascus. If successful, it will turn into a Melufa. This will be Ashton's strongest weapon until you go deep into the ultra hard hidden dungeon. The Melufa also sells for an insane amount of FOL. (In the range of 2 million per or something like that.) BTW, I suggested Ashton and Dias because a team of Claude, Ashton, Dias, and Rena works out wonder. All three of them can use the very strongest weapon in the game. Not only that, Celine's spell casting can slow you down, and the damage vs time ratio becomes a huge hinderance. But, you are adjusted to your team, and you are winning.  And now Fienal, I'm usually around level 90-100 when I enter. For preparation: take your fighters through the A level fight of I think Duel at Fun City's colliseum. If their AC is around 650-700, then you should be able to get through without a problem. The first fight is really what determines whether or not you can win. If you can win every battle, your fighter will get a pretty strong weapon. Fight 1: Yellow robot. If he can damage you, you lose. It has about 6000 HP. The next three fights I can't really remember the order. Yellow slime. Slow mover, but if it eats you, you lose. Use ranged attacks. Blue slime. Fast mover, and has a higher chance of being able to eat you. Do NOT use Sword Bomber. Green robot: Slower than the yellow robot, but not an instant lose scenario if it can damage you. It often blocks attacks. Fight 5: Green beast. Fairly simple, but run backwards if it starts a breath attack. That can petrify you. I think the tail swipe is also capable of paralyzing you. The enemies you see on the first trip to Fienal, as well as the Dual mode level A will not change for later. As for equipment: Use Blacksmithing with the Orichalcum, Damascus, Mithril, Meteroites. They are rare drops from those annoying mages. They also appear outside Fun City. Almost every piece of equipment you'll get will help. Just make sure your Blacksmith super skill is high enough. And you have one Pickpocketing mission. Head to Fun City, head towards the Bunny Square (up), and steal from the bunny. Your chances are frusteratingly low, but the reward is WELL worth it. Just equip the reward and see for yourself in battle. (Equip it on one of your fighters. And, control that fighter.  )With that, you are now prepared for Fienal. Good luck. |
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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 754/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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| I went to Fienal yesterday and got my ass handed to me in the boss fight at the entrance. It took me 3 tries to a) figure out that there was someone able to 'eat' my fighters (if I control Rena and the action is more at the enemy side, I don't see much of it); b) my levels were close to 80, which according to several guides was alot higher than recommended (66, which I find insanely low); c) my equipment sucked ass. the best armor I had was on Rena, those robes you find when Chisato drops her business card. So I read through what kind of preparations I had to do, and the first thing I did was steal from the bunny. Claude + bunny shoes + might chain + atlas ring + reflective armor + pallas athena + mirror slice = death to bosses in about 5 minutes. depending on wether he can corner/dizzy them straigth away or not. I went to the fifth floor savepoint, and now I'm just walking back and forth between the first 5 floors. I've yet to use any items, and the exp in this dungeon is prety good (I meet those green lizards and that bird alot, both net ~40 000 exp and are fairly easy to defeat). I actually like the chances of meeting those two alot better than chasing those cubes, because I'm really speedleveling. Not to mention it's actually alot safer than Field of Love, because I've yet to meet more than 2 wizards here. (Getting dark flare on you 3 times or more in a row hurts.) Levels are all close to 90, but I did notice now that Celine is becoming less and less effective. Whereas her multitarget spells used to save my butt all the time, she's just prolonging my battles now with the lengthy animations of her spells. So I switched in Dias (he was still on lvl 35 XD) and gave him equipment that nearly tripled his stats. I think I'll have him up to a respectable level later today or tomorrow, if I feel like it. I started leveling him in order to be able to win some of the higher rank team battles, since Celine kinda dies in those <<; About the AC; I don't think I'll ever get that much :/ Like I said earlier, my fighters all have reflective mail equipped, and it seems that's the best I can get untill I hit CoT. Which will still be a long while <<; Or is there a way to beef em up like that? The funny thing with all those item creation skills is that I tried some of them as a novelty and just gave up on it 'for now'. I like the battle system alot better than reloading when I have a failed attempt. Even though 90% of the time I'll succeed with them, it's timeconsuming and sometimes just too boring. And they only get useful at the second disc anyway, it seems. Kinda like unlocking talents, such as Rena's sense of design (still don't have it --; ). I didn't bother with it on the first disc because it can take so much time.As for the 'hidden' item, I'm obviously already too late... |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 143/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Alouette Yes, pump some levels into the skill Functionality. Your Dexterity is your AC minus whatever armor you have on. Duel Suits I think have slightly more defense than Reflective Armor, but the Reflective Armor has nice elemental bonuses. (Handy for those Combo battles in the collisuem.) You can also max out the skill Writing for more Dexterity. All that's left is to finish Fienal. |
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Joachim Mole Level: 30 Posts: 197/358 EXP: 165561 For next: 308 Since: 03-15-04 From: Neo Kobe Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Oh before you fight the final boss, make sure 100% you have that Eternal Sphere sword for Claude, it makes the battle go by a lot quicker. When you fight Indalecio, control Claude and make sure he has headsplitter skill, use it to jump over his Divine Wave spell, and just regular attack him over and over, because what's cool about the Eternal Sphere is that it attacks multiple times in one swing. IMO, the best party for Indalecio is this. Claude + Rena + Ashton/Ernest + Precis/Dias/Leon* I perfer a mob of killer move characters over magic characters, but do whatever you want, just as long as you got a Eternal Sphere wielding Claude and Rena. * Use Leon ONLY after you have gotten Spoiler: the secret Extinction Spell, which is only gotten in the Cave of Trials. (edited by Ralphy Boy on 09-06-04 02:25 AM) (edited by Ralphy Boy on 09-06-04 02:26 AM) |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 147/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Ralphy Boy 1: If you don't get to the finals in the Lacour tourney, you've already lost. 2: If you don't find 'gramps' house (and btw, there's never a hint) he won't give you the Sharp Edge. Process to get the Eternal Sphere. Claude must get to the finals of the Lacour Tournament, anything else means you already lost it. Easier to do IMO if you are in Claude's scenario, because you can control him. If you are playing Rena's scenario, you must rely on luck. After Claude's imminent defeat to Dias, head to the town entrance, and head left. Keep going until you find a house, that's "gramps' house." Talk to him, and he'll give you the Sharp Edge. I believe there is a little bit of leeway to get this, but you can no longer if the city was evacutated. After getting the Sharp Edge, Claude must Customize it with Mithril. Normally you don't find mithril until CD 2, but with the Radar skill, you have a chance to get mithril automatically. (Save before you try this.) Raise somebody's Radar skill 3 or 4 levels. It's better if somebody starts at 0, less skill points to use. Check your inventory for new items, if Mithril is in the new section, yay! Otherwise load and try again. Here's the thing, you need 2 Mithril's, not 1. If you do get a Mithril, save, and repeat the process with someone else. For Customizing to have success, you must have Sense of Design and Dexterity. Both are unlockable with the Metalwork skill, so if Claude has neither, do Metalwork with some crap minerals. (Gold, Iron, etc.) Tip of the day: Orchestra significantly raises success possibility with any Item Creation or Super Skill. |
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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 803/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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Originally posted by Alouette I don't want to be mean, but if you give advice, give something useful, and actually read things through first -.- I'm going to try some battle arena before finishing things off, but I need to get Dias to atleast 70 first, or it'll be hellish. Is there a way for Rena to get through things such as, say, bully battle at the arena? |
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Joachim Mole Level: 30 Posts: 198/358 EXP: 165561 For next: 308 Since: 03-15-04 From: Neo Kobe Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Yeah, get 2 mithril, then save your game. Then apply the first mithril to the sharp edge, if you get the Minus Sword, SAVE. If you fail, reload your game and repeat until you do. When you have the Minus Sword, do the same process, it will take awhile but eventually you will make the Eternal Sphere. | |||
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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 809/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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| Ralph, please read things before you reply, it's getting annoying. | |||
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 148/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by AlouetteIs there a way for Rena to get through things such as, say, bully battle at the arena? |
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Jizuko Jiz Is The Magic! This board has run out of mana and can no longer use The Magic Level: 51  Posts: 581/1191 EXP: 1004683 For next: 9255 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 213 days |
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| This game can make you go crazy, not because of the gameplay or anything else, it's a great game but .. THE BUGS, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THE BUGS!? I like, go into cave of trials after beating the boss on the 12th floor or whatnot with only 2 chars, I kill a boss, pick up the leventine sword (which by the by, sucks ass, never have I seen such slow attacks, almost every attack is like a mirror slice on a guy that's blocking, 5second freeze with the blade in the air), I keep going up and up and up, pick up some battle suits and valkyrie guards, and what happens after a battle? THE GAME CRASHES. like, from no apparant reason at all, it just never switched screen, it just stayed black, this is the epitome of pissing someone off. In other news, I'm buying the 3rd one. |
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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 826/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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| ...uck. I got to floor 10 and they handed my ass to me, despite everyone being closing in on lvl 150-ish. 20+ levels, some equipment and stuffs lost, because they have so little  Oh well, I suppose I'll breeze through stuff now I know where to get my treasures and all. (and let me guess, you're suposed to be around lvl 200 in the upper levels?-.-) |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 154/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Actually, floor's 10-13 are death traps even if you are level 255. The big purple-ish robots are fast AND hit hard...  Oh, and let's not forget the little robots that can one hit kill even with the VALIANT pieces of armor... Better to just run through as quickly as you can. Although I usually level build on Phoenix, (fight him on 12, backtrack to 11, go back down, repeat.) That's after I fufill the two party requirement, btw.If you want some really good but somewhat unreliable level building, stick to floor 7, and give your fighters the Funny Slayers. Use an experience card when you fight the thieves (they are blue, the rare encounter is 6 of them.) For more reliable but less experience, stay on floor 6, and equip the Funny Slayers. (BTW, I highly recommend you go back and forth from 5 to 6 until Santa shows up in the "main" room on the 6th floor.) Lower shop prices, and BUY 20 Go Home Frogs, Meteorites, Mithril, Damascus, Sages Stone, Orichalcum, and whatever else there is. If you want some money back, raise the price, then sell all 20 Sages Stones... Otherwise, hang on to them, they Blacksmith and Metalwork into good items. Don't buy the Santa's Boots yet, if you want to try your luck, head to Arlia, and steal from the little kid in the newlyweds house (house on the left, upper side of town, by the exit.) If you can't or don't want to steal, go ahead and fork 3 mil or whatever FOL for them. Tip of the day: The Valiant and Valkyrie Boots give the speed bonus that the Bunny Shoes have, and have 200 more defense... (edited by Lenophis on 09-09-04 11:06 PM) |
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Jizuko Jiz Is The Magic! This board has run out of mana and can no longer use The Magic Level: 51 Posts: 584/1191 EXP: 1004683 For next: 9255 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 213 days |
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| So I like try and go down again in CoT and it goes really good, everyone levels up like 10 levels to 150 or so and I get the leventine sword again and take all tresures and then I get to the 13 floor, I was a nerv wreck there since I thought that enemies could kill me easily but in reality they were quite easy and then after I flipped the switches I went to the main room, where the angel queen thingie was and I got my ass handed to me, holy shit she was annoying, she is quick as heck, I can't trap her, she has like obnoxius defence/avd since I do 0 alot but sometimes 8k and she has this really annoying attack that throws a really big boomerang that hits a char for about 6k... and ofcourse, If I happen to hit her I get a shower of red stars over me, so every hit I gave to her I got like 2k damage back it went all good and fine in the start, I just kept healing but, she got a lucky break and when 1 char falls, it's easier to loose another one, and when 2 char dies I'm busy reviving and she gets to cast spells and I die. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 155/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Fortunately, I found a pretty reliable way to kill her, and her alter ego. Preparation: You want 20 Cure Stone, 20 Blackberries, 20 Blueberries, and 20 Ressurection Bottles just in case. Remove every Killer Move from every fighter. If you have a spell caster, set AI to do nothing. To check on the HP, have some Spectacles. Since the battle does give great EXP, have a spare Experience Card handy. FOL is laughable, so don't bother. Basic strategy: 1. Equip Bloody Armor. The armor will protect you from the deflects. For an added bonus, use Star Guards. 2. Above all else, everyone must be wearing Valkyrie Boots, Bunny Shoes, or Valiant Boots. The speed will keep you alive. 3. Disable all healing spells for Rena/Noel except Fairy Light. Leave either/both on AI. Control a fighter. 4. Use a Revival Card on Rena when the battle starts. In the event she does die, this'll cover that. Once she is revived, you can use one on her again. 5. Keep an eye on your HP. They will drop quick, if Rena doesn't cast by the time you are down to 5000, check to make sure she isn't turned to stone. 6. So far with all of my fighters doing regular attacks, I can walk into the battle, and no spells will be sucessfully cast on me. (Except for healing of course.) There are rare freakish disasterous circumstances when it does happen. But then it's usually game over anyway. This will be a 20 minute battle no matter what you do, so be patient, and keep a cool head. You'll win, just try not to panic. Now, when you do beat her, you are rewarded the opportunity to lay waste to her alter ego, sealed inside the Silver Trumpet. Compse both songs from the trumpet, and play the "Evil Melody." Do NOT save after you play the song, save before. Otherwise, you'll regret it for the rest of your life. Anywhere you can fight random battles you can also fight the alter ego. The same basic strategy works for both. There is a VERY cheesy way to kill her and anyone, but you need Precis or Chisato to pull it off. You should never read this. But try and beat them normally first at least.  Spoiler: If you managed to get an Algol, equip, and have them run up and keep hitting any enemy. Instant death will happen eventually, but the shield must block an attack for it to work. 100% success if that character blocks with the shield. This will work on Gabriel, Queen, and Indelacio, and his much harder version. You will get normally rewarded for it too. Rewards: Gabriel Celeste: Angel Armband, Silver Trumpet Queen Isiela (spelling is off, her alter ego): 2,000,000 exp or something like that, Levantine Sword, Angel Armband (both drops are rare) Angel Armband: Equipped, you absorb all elements. When you fight with it, it has the effect that the Eternal Sphere has. The two stack with each other, so double effect if you have both. Recommend you fight the Queen until you have 4 Angel Armbands. (edited by Lenophis on 09-11-04 01:49 AM) |
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