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Posted on 08-06-04 03:17 AM Link | Quote
As we all know, Koei's engine for Dynasty Warriors 1-4 and Samuri Warriors all follows the same engine, plot, and action. It's a ridiculously fun series, but, I'd like to see some improvements. What wouls YOU like to see in the next Dynasty/Samuri Warriors game?

-The ability to command you individual troops while in the subscreen to attack, defend, rush, etc. a certain area or army.
-Bows on horses and elephants
-The ability to buy items and forge/reforge weapons by money you find or that the enemy drops instead of randomly picking up an item or weapon.
-The ability to hire mercenaries, like Lu Bu.
-Buying supplies like bows, crossbows, horses, saddles, etc
-Better AI
-A Compass
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Posted on 08-06-04 04:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Clockworkz
As we all know, Koei's engine for Dynasty Warriors 1-4 and Samuri Warriors all follows the same engine, plot, and action. It's a ridiculously fun series, but, I'd like to see some improvements. What wouls YOU like to see in the next Dynasty/Samuri Warriors game?

-The ability to command you individual troops while in the subscreen to attack, defend, rush, etc. a certain area or army.
-Bows on horses and elephants
-The ability to buy items and forge/reforge weapons by money you find or that the enemy drops instead of randomly picking up an item or weapon.
-The ability to hire mercenaries, like Lu Bu.
-Buying supplies like bows, crossbows, horses, saddles, etc
-Better AI
-A Compass

The ability to build forts, set up camps...
The ability to assign 'formations'
The ability to reinforce castles you capture.
To be able for YOU to challenge enemy generals to duels.
thats it for now...
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Posted on 08-06-04 05:18 AM Link | Quote
I dunno about building... That's more for the Romancing series...

I'd like to see free mode in which you can play on one side of a stage and player two plays with the opposing side, mainly to see who'd be the better General. It would go well with the whole "command your troops" ideas...
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Posted on 08-06-04 05:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Clockworkz
I dunno about building... That's more for the Romancing series...

I'd like to see free mode in which you can play on one side of a stage and player two plays with the opposing side, mainly to see who'd be the better General. It would go well with the whole "command your troops" ideas...


man..i tottaly forgot about free mode! (long time i dont play DW series...)
That idea is good but it would be good too to be able to do 4 player FFA matchs in free mode , connecting two PS2.(because a screen split in 4 in DW....not a nice idea....)
Oh and the always present idea of 'be able to connect to internet' heh, to download new models, which would be very good for new sections, like 'custom model edit', WORLD editor would be really nice, campaing editors.....
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Posted on 08-06-04 05:32 AM Link | Quote
OMG DYNASTY WARRIORS YAAAAAY!!!!111!! I'm actually making DW4 Zhang He and Xiahou Dun costumes. They need to be done by mid-May. I've already started them. It's going to be a busy year...

On the topic of this thread: the duel system is an interesting idea, but they should provide some warning that a nearby enemy officer will challenge you to a duel when you approach them. (For instance, their dot could be a different color on the map.) As it stands, if you're unfamiliar with a battle, you won't know where upcoming duels are, so you won't get a fair chance to save. Because avoiding a duel hurts your morale, you'll probably do what you're "supposed" to - accept it and try your best to win. But if you lose, you die and therefore have to restart. If you happened to have saved not long before the duel, this isn't a problem, but having to redo a whole assload of battle (especially if it's a difficult one) is really damned annoying.

While I'm on the subject, why the flipping hell does DW4 offer a nearly impossible Lu Bu duel in an early stage in musou mode?! Chewbacca does not make sense! At least declining it doesn't wreck your chances of beating the battle, but I still thought it wasn't a very nice trick to pull on people who don't know that Lu Bu is basically a god of war, especially when most of the other duels I remember doing at that point in the game weren't nearly that tough.
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Posted on 08-06-04 06:42 PM Link | Quote
Oh something that would be good is the ability to build siege engines in some places, so we can need to think and get the siege weaponry when we want to assault a castle.The Siege engines could be.... ballista, catapult, ram, siege tower.
Anything else to add?
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Posted on 08-06-04 10:04 PM Link | Quote
No building... maybe.... commandeering?
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Posted on 08-07-04 12:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Clockworkz
-The ability to command you individual troops while in the subscreen to attack, defend, rush, etc. a certain area or army.

Yeah, that would be a great improvement, although, maybe too good. I dunno.

-Bows on horses and elephants

Ahh, to have any game BESIDES OoT or MM that uses this would be golden.

-The ability to buy items...

Like what?

...and forge/reforge weapons by money you find or that the enemy drops instead of randomly picking up an item or weapon.

I'm not really sure what you are talking about right here...

-The ability to hire mercenaries, like Lu Bu.

Play Xtreme Mode.

-Buying supplies like bows, crossbows, horses, saddles, etc

Every character gets the same bow, I doubt that will ever change. But as for saddles, again, play Xtreme Mode (just a basic crap saddle, if you have better, use that instead.)

-Better AI

I couldn't agree more...

-A Compass

You clearly haven't played that much, have you? Play enough, and the map is your friend, and your lifesaver, pay more attention to it.

As for more ideas...I think some kind of anti-juggling code where you can't be in the air for 5 minutes because of two officers taking turns.

An evil idea for duels, the officer you fight is based on how built up he or she is. *twiddle* Be careful with Lu Bu, Ma Chao, etc... >

Here's an idea for an Xtreme Mode tweak, how about the difficulty doesn't go from "pathetically easy" to "whoa! how did I lose all that life?!" between levels 10-12... Stretch it out a bit more... It's no wonder I've never managed to get past mission 29...

Another for duels, fix the arrow bug. I've survived many duels when I shouldn't have been able to because of this. (Run into a corner, face it, pull out the bow, hold it until time runs out.)

Here's an idea, I don't like the 2 player musou crap that Samurai started. Though the musou's are cheesy, that's a stupid way to prevent abuse. Don't make musou's so damn good if you don't want abuse issues.

When Empires comes out at the end of the month (to be shipped in US stores August 31st, $19.99 estimated price) I hope for new stuff to be done with weapons. You know, like more levels, different bonuses (really, why does Jiang Wei need level 20 jump shoes?), and well I dunno.
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Posted on 08-18-04 09:53 PM Link | Quote
I man a compas for North, South, East and West. "The West Gate has Fallen!" *map blip... in the south? wtf?*

By Buying and forging, I mean that depending on the amount of money you receive, you can, at the end of each stage, be taken to like... for instance, Acmlm's shop.php sort of thing insted of randomly picking up weapons or items.

Also, you seem to like using Xtreme Legends as an excuse; I don't wanna shel out extra money for a mediocre half-sequal. Give me the whole damn game, or nothing.

I HAVE played the game a lot. Dynasty Warriors 3 for XBOX. Gotten everybody except Taishi Ci and Lu Meng (can't find em'). I have practically perfected the game, and I'm a-gonna get Samurai Warriors for the Big X tomorrow.
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Posted on 08-20-04 10:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Clockworkz
I man a compas for North, South, East and West. "The West Gate has Fallen!" *map blip... in the south? wtf?*

By Buying and forging, I mean that depending on the amount of money you receive, you can, at the end of each stage, be taken to like... for instance, Acmlm's shop.php sort of thing insted of randomly picking up weapons or items.

Also, you seem to like using Xtreme Legends as an excuse; I don't wanna shel out extra money for a mediocre half-sequal. Give me the whole damn game, or nothing.

I HAVE played the game a lot. Dynasty Warriors 3 for XBOX. Gotten everybody except Taishi Ci and Lu Meng (can't find em'). I have practically perfected the game, and I'm a-gonna get Samurai Warriors for the Big X tomorrow.

Well, it's not my fault Koei made Xtreme Legends as an expansion, yell at them. Starcraft is its own game, yet Blizzard made Broodwar to add on to it, to improve it. Same situation here. Same with Warcraft II, Diablo, and Diablo II. Are all of those expansions crap as well? (Beyond the Dark Portal, Hellfire, and Lord of Destruction respectively)

As for the items, I don't see that happening. You aren't meant to instantly get level 20 items, or level 11 weapons. (If you play the original game, then level 10.) Hell, I've been playing DW4 for a year now, still don't have all level 20 items. (But I do have all level 11 weapons.)

Compass, big if. I don't need it, because I'm too paranoid with the map.

As for Samurai, enjoy. Perhaps you can get talked into getting the expansion for that when it comes out next year. Or was it later this year? *shrug* Also called Xtreme Legends I believe. =p
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Posted on 08-23-04 09:56 AM Link | Quote
Oh, I can't believe I forgot this one...

...bring back the awesome rock music! I enjoyed DW3's soundtrack much, much more than 4's. The music in 4 was good, but it just didn't have that same pump-up effect as driving electric guitars.

I'd also like to see more options for viewing character outfits and weapons in detail. In DW4, you can rotate the character, but I haven't found any zoom button. When you're trying to replicate intricate applique or embroidery shapes, it's annoying to not be able to see exactly what they're supposed to be. Also, I can't seem to find any way to closely examine all of an officer's weapons, not just the highest level one that you've found. Luckily, I have some artbook scans that clearly show most of the details of what I'm making, but still, would it have been that tough to let you scroll through all the levels of weapon that you've come across?
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Posted on 08-23-04 08:23 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, that rock music is awesome... its one of the reasons I love DW# so much. I'm now playing Samurai Warriors (but not liking it too much cause I CAN'T UNLOCK ANYONE! I only ot 4 people and completed the game with 6!) and the music is kinda somber, but fitting. I think it was okay for the game, IMO.
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