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Posted on 01-29-05 03:00 AM Link | Quote
Well...Jerry Rice still performs consistently in his 40's. He never really had breakaway speed, or great agility, he just is physically fit, and is consistent day in day out.
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Posted on 01-29-05 03:30 AM Link | Quote
you have to admit, dependance on Rice as greatly been reduced the last few years--i would think on the Seattle's final play they would have gone to Rice? I dunno.

anyways, I think T.O. won't let this opportunity to play go away--you will see him play in the Super Bowl
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Posted on 01-29-05 03:35 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, playing in the Super Bowl is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Well, okay, maybe not, but there's no guarantee he'll ever get to this point again.

Is it the SMART thing to do, particularly given the NFL's policy of NO guaranteed contracts? Probably not, but if I were him, I probably wouldn't pass the chance up either.
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Posted on 01-29-05 03:39 AM Link | Quote
no guaranteed contracts? then why do some teams have salary cap problems? that doesn't make sense or I'm missing something...
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Posted on 01-29-05 03:59 AM Link | Quote
It's all based on performance. That's why people thought Ricky Williams was a moron, when there was a clause in his contract that would give him X dollars if he rushed for 3k yards (I think that was it) in a season, because obviously that's never been done, and probably won't.
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Posted on 01-30-05 11:00 PM Link | Quote
Not only is it performance based, but I believe the team can simply opt-out of the contract if a player suffers, say, a career-ending injury.
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Posted on 01-31-05 02:42 AM Link | Quote
COUGH
ROBERT EDWARDS
COUGH
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Posted on 01-31-05 05:44 AM Link | Quote
i remember that--he was supposed to give the patriots a running offense back in the late 90s. He was lost playing flag football and so did the the running game. It didn't resurface until Dillion showed up.

Anyways, 1 more week until the Super Bowl
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Posted on 01-31-05 06:02 AM Link | Quote
Yep, he ended up making a comeback with the Dolphins, then disappearing.
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Posted on 02-05-05 04:58 AM Link | Quote
Is it just me or...

Am I the only one here who seems to think that the Eagles stand a chance against the Patriots? I mean, come on. Just think about it for one second. Their defense has been nothing short of excellent throughout the previous two rounds. They've neutralized two great offenses (in both running and passing) in Minny and Atlanta, averaging just 12 ppg against these two offensive giants. They've beat the second best seed in the NFC, and the respective wild card holder, without their star player in TO. The team hasn't held back even when they needed him most. They've proven that, with or without him, they can win, and this very well could be their year, like them or hate them (which, to be honest, I'm *kinda* starting to like the Eagles; don't get me wrong: I'm not crazy about Philly fans, either, but the team is another story). And besides, no one thought the Pats had a chance against the Rams three Super Bowls ago. EVERYONE labeled them as the "underdog" in that one, yet look what became of them afterwards: Super Bowl champs, baby. Yeah!

Philly's defense needs to remain solid in this game as it has throughout the playoffs thus far, though, if they hope to win. They need to keep Tom Brady, Corey Dillon, and Deon Branch all at bay, and their offense, whether or not TO is apart of that unit during the Super Bowl, must utilize the Patriot's biggest gaps on the defensive front in both running and passing. Right now, with all the injuries on the defensive front, the Eagles have the overall better defense, and New England's D, while still solid even without the likes of Law and possibly Harrison and Seymour, I don't think can hold off a well-written Philly playbook.

My prediction: Westbrook and TO (mark my words: he WILL play) will be "rippin' it up" down the field, and New England's little crusade ends here. Philly wins the big one.
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Posted on 02-05-05 10:29 AM Link | Quote
there isn't any doubt of whether T.O. is going to play. Belichick (sp?) showed some sign he was tired of answering that question. I think this game is going to break the cycle of blowouts, close one, blowouts, close one. I think too this game is going to be close but the Patriots will come out on top by a leg
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Posted on 02-05-05 08:48 PM Link | Quote
OK, Steph:

The Patriots have been playing without either of their normal starting CB's for quite some time, and shut down the #1 passing offense, and (I think Pitt was the #1 rushing offense). They went up with the best defense in the league, in Pitt, and promptly dropped 40 on them.

Seymour is playing, as is Harrison; but I refuse to make any prediction, as I don't want to jinx a certain team.

And who isn't tired of TO, jesus. You'd think sports writers would get the fucking hint already that it's boring.
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Posted on 02-05-05 10:06 PM Link | Quote
Well, Payton obviously can't play in the cold. That's the ONLY reason the Pats were able to shut him down so easily. Sorry, it is. Some guys on this one NFL talk show (forget the name of it) even said so themselves. He'll NEVER be taken seriously as a QB until he learns to overcome climate conditions, no matter how stunning of a regular season he puts up. 48 TD passes means nothing if you can't shape up in the playoffs, well known fact.

As for rousting the #1 defense, you've got to take into account that that was THE game before the Super Bowl, and that gives the Eagles time to look over those mistakes, which were clearly shown in the AFC Championship game. The Pats NEED guys like Dillon and Branch to be factors, and if the Eagles D can somehow shut these guys down all game long, I think they have a chance of winning, and I hope they do. I HATE the Patriots!


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Posted on 02-06-05 01:05 AM Link | Quote
Uh ok, I don't really mind if you say that he can't overcome cold weather. Whatever...then with Roeths-burger or however you spell it got shut down also.

"As for rousting the #1 defense, you've got to take into account that that was THE game before the Super Bowl, and that gives the Eagles time to look over those mistakes, which were clearly shown in the AFC Championship game."
Um, Pats can do that too


"The Pats NEED guys like Dillon and Branch to be factors,"

Not exactly; seeing as the Patriots have four skilled recievers in Brown, Branch, Patten, and Givens that can all make big plays, and Fauria and Graham who can catch it from the TE position. As illustrated in the Pitt game, Dillion doesn't have to be a monster for the Pats to win.
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Posted on 02-06-05 01:42 AM Link | Quote
Yup, one of the patriot's strengths is they don't need a superstar--they just need people to do their jobs. In my option, no one on the Patriots is intimidating. There isn't really anyone on the Patriots' to focus on because you practically have to focus on everyone. Everyone contributes in every game. The same can be said about the Eagles for the most part but attention is on certain players, not the entire team and I think that is the shortfall for the Eagles.
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Posted on 02-07-05 02:20 AM Link | Quote
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Uh ok, I don't really mind if you say that he can't overcome cold weather. Whatever...then with Roeths-burger or however you spell it got shut down also.

"As for rousting the #1 defense, you've got to take into account that that was THE game before the Super Bowl, and that gives the Eagles time to look over those mistakes, which were clearly shown in the AFC Championship game."
Um, Pats can do that too


"The Pats NEED guys like Dillon and Branch to be factors,"

Not exactly; seeing as the Patriots have four skilled recievers in Brown, Branch, Patten, and Givens that can all make big plays, and Fauria and Graham who can catch it from the TE position. As illustrated in the Pitt game, Dillion doesn't have to be a monster for the Pats to win.


1) Thing is, unlike Peyton (PRIOR to the AFC Wild Card game, that is), he was never really being taken seriously as a playoff QB. See the Pitt-NYJ game.

2) Not really considering they don't have anything to show for it. It's moreso the opposite: there are teams who should be learning off of them. Not only that, not that it'll be much of a factor in their play, but also you should take into account that they're the defending Super Bowl champs. The pressure is ALL on them. Most defending world champs from the year before don't even make it THIS far.

3) I already mentioned Branch, so make that three others. And it's questionable whether or not the others will be factors against this Eagles D. Of those 4, Branch is the only one in which they have to be on the lookout for, considering how good of a defensive team the Eagles are (not to put them in the same league as the Pats in that respect, but still). Dillon also, but this isn't about RBs, this is about WRs.

I know the odds seem to be stacked heavily against Philly in the Super Bowl. Infact, 9 critics out of 10 say they'll problably get killed, but I still have faith in them anyway. After all, SOMEONE's gotta beat the Pats, sooner or later.


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Posted on 02-07-05 04:51 AM Link | Quote
hmm..it is late in the 2nd quarter and the eagles are up 7. However, the Patriots are threatening but I don't think they are going to get far..or will they...
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Posted on 02-07-05 07:15 AM Link | Quote
Goddamn I hate the Patriots...

Way to make the NFL look more and more like the NBA, when the so-called "Lakers" would always make and/or win the finals, year after year. Or even worse, the MLB and the Yankees, who don't deserve to win another World Series. EVER. Boy, the rest of the year's gonna be great for sports with the lack of NHL. It's gonna be NBA the rest of the way through, which is fun ONLY when I'm bored out of my skull and there's nothing else on TV.

Well, congratulations Pats on capturing their 3rd Super Bowl in 4 years, even though I hate the Patriots (I used to like them, but I've grown so sick of them lately).


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Posted on 02-07-05 07:36 AM Link | Quote
OK, I love the anit-bandwagon people.

Just because a team wins all the time is not a valid reason to hate them.

I hate the Yankees, because they're the Sox's arch-rivals, not becuase OMG,OL THEY WON 2345234 CHAMPIONSHIPS.
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Originally posted by Seph2k4

Way to make the NFL look more and more like the NBA, when the so-called "Lakers" would always make and/or win the finals, year after year.


Lakers last championship was in 2002. A similar counter argument can be said about the Eagles. They've made it to the NFC Championship game four years running. Why don't they let someone else make it Another can be said of the Cowboys back in the 90s, 49ers back in the 80s, Steelers in the 70s, and the Packers in the 60s. The Patriots have won 3 super bowls. that is only 7% of the super bowls and that is all within the past 4 years. You have a point if the patriots have won the super bowl at least twice in the each of the last 4 decades.

Anyways, yeah--this was a close game. I mean, the Eagles were in most of it until the Patriots scored the last 10 points. Once the Eagles were down by three, some of the stuff they did was questionable. They seemed to lack any ability to do no-huddle offense when they needed to. I only saw much of the end of the game but going into halftime, the Eagles still had a shot at that point. Once the second half game around, they well...started losing it. McNabb started to lose his composure towards the end and started to play sloppy (his last pass as an INT didn't help). So yeah, I believe this was a good game for about three quarters...
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