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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 594/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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I bought my second Saturn today, because my old one has long been defunct Anyone else have a Saturn, and which games have you got? I have: Sega Rally Championship Sonic R Sonic Jam Daytona Championship Circuit Edition Virtua Fighters 1 and 2 Virtua Cop 2 WipeOut Sega Tourning Car Championship NiGHTS and Christmas NiGHTS And, I wondered if anyone had seen the footage of the Saturn version of Shenmue? This game would've silenced all the Saturn's hardware critics. This game looks awesome. Saturn Shenmue Footage |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84 Posts: 982/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Not bad, but the only reason I would have gotten or will get a saturn is for SF3 and maybe I need to learn japanese. I don't think I could find the money for it unless I knew I would get something I really wanted though. | |||
Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 2962/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Basically you have most of the Saturn's A library. It wasn't a TERRIBLE system but the price thing killed it right off the bat. It was extremely expensive when it first came out (despite a surprise launch announced at E3) and KB Toys cut off all ties with Sega when they weren't given a piece of that launch. Then Sony did the price cut thing after a year and... |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 595/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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The biggest problem was that the Saturn was tough to program for. It has three CPUs, whereas the Playstation only had one. You only needed to learn C++ to make a basic game for the PSX... You needed to learn the whole machine for the Saturn because it required the developers to be skilled at using the parallel processing. That's not to say that it can't do awesome graphics... The Saturn shone far greater than the Playstation in numerous games, but only a few. Shenmue is a great example of this Anyways, having got my Saturn, I'm in trouble... E-bay is burning a whole in my pocket... I've already got my eyes set on Panzer Dragoon Saga and Burning Rangers... No Radiant Silverguns yet, though |
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Uncle Elmo Hammer Brother Partly Sweet, Helpful, good at advice and a half decent writer. Also modest. Level: 49 Posts: 501/1062 EXP: 845899 For next: 37984 Since: 03-15-04 From: Prestatyn, Uk Since last post: 23 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Yep still have my Saturn but I hardly play it nowadays. I've seen the Saturn footage of Shenmue you get it as a bonus extra for finishing Shenmue 1 (or is that 2) on the DC. I've got... Sonic R (Some of Richard Jaques' besat work) Sonic Jam (Not superceeded by the GC's Sonic Mega Collection) Daytona: Championship edition Sega Ages Panzer Dragoon Discworld Nights |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 460/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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I would love to get a Saturn, if only just for the Virtua Fighter games... but there's always the lack of spare cash problem. That, and my wife would probably kill me for wasting the money for a Saturn just for 2 games. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 605/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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The lyrics in Sonic R are kinda cringeworthy... And the announcer at the beginning of each race / replay also sounds awful The movies no longer work on my copy of Sonic Jam... Damn, that Japanese Sonic 3 advert was great |
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Uncle Elmo Hammer Brother Partly Sweet, Helpful, good at advice and a half decent writer. Also modest. Level: 49 Posts: 502/1062 EXP: 845899 For next: 37984 Since: 03-15-04 From: Prestatyn, Uk Since last post: 23 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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You forget Kas that "Cingeworthy" is right up my street, although I was being sarcastic, as the songs are terrible (Richard Jaques best work can be found on Metropolis Street Racer, that stuff was genius. ) | |||
Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 614/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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I find sarchasm hard to pick up only in the written word Anyway, I had no idea that Richard Jaques did anything past the Saturn generation... Is he still out and about doing stuff? | |||
Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 3005/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Yeah, the programming thing was covered in my big video game history book. Basically one of the magazines took apart a PSX (everything nicely ordered) and a Saturn (looked like Sega just tossed in a bunch of parts and hoped for the best). That wasn't good PR right off the bat. |
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Uncle Elmo Hammer Brother Partly Sweet, Helpful, good at advice and a half decent writer. Also modest. Level: 49 Posts: 510/1062 EXP: 845899 For next: 37984 Since: 03-15-04 From: Prestatyn, Uk Since last post: 23 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Kas - Yep, the latest work he did was on "Headhunter" , but nothing can surpass the Metropolis Street Racer OST. Utter class. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 655/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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Elmo: Good to hear Colleen: The Saturn's pre-release history is fascinating. Apparently, the Saturn only had only one Hitachi SH2 chip in it before the PSX become the Playstation after it's official announcement. The Playstation's specifications were stunning on announcement, and Sega needed to up the ante immediately if it stood any chance. Sega of America were given a chance to find a hardware solution in the US, where the PS got it's hardware from, and Sega of Japan was given a chance as well. Sega of America actually secured a deal with the same manufacturer of Sony's CPU, albeit a faster breed. Sega of Japan's solution was to throw in another SH2 CPU... However, the US solution required a total re-working of the hardware, whereas the Japanese solution required comparitively little redesign. This is how the Saturn got it's three CPUs, two parallel SH2s and one SH1. It was difficult to program for, but the parallel processing really let the Saturn do some staggering graphics. Shenmue, Panzer Saga and Radiant Silvergun are great examples... The SH2 chip is primarily a 2d chip, as well. This is why the Saturn is such a spectacular console for the classic shoot'em ups and beat'em ups (edited by Kasumi-Astra on 07-24-04 07:29 PM) |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 3021/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Oh, some of the graphics for the system were great, no question. But despite the programming issue, the Saturn got burned at two separate E3's. At the first, one of Sony's representatives got up to the microphone at the PSX news conference, shuffled his papers and said "$299" then left to thunderous applause. In other words, Sega got slapped in the face at that price point since there was no way they could sell the Saturn for that. Then the next year, there was an agreement NOT to announce any price drops at E3. Of course, Sony immediately announces the PSX is going down to $199, and Sega had to react quickly by slashing the Saturn's price by $100. It didn't go well. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 1383/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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I still have my Saturn. This thing ruled. My games: --------------- Magic Carpet Ghen War Panzer Dragoon Saga Quarterback Attack Galactic Attack Battle Arena Toshinden: Remix NBA Jam: TE Baku Baku Animal Virtua On: Cyber Troopers NiGHTS Wing Arms Warcraft II Up next on my list, is Castlevania: SotN with bonus areas not in the PSX version. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 3033/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Yeah, why did Konami decide to give the Saturn users extra goodies (like some extra kickass remixes)? Didn't make sense... I want to play that version one day when Saturn emulation becomes more advanced. |
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