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Alastor the Stylish
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Posted on 07-02-04 09:07 AM Link | Quote
Why do no 3D mario games have Fire Mario and no Super Mario? Seriously, why ;-; It'd be so much better if they did. And I think we'd all like Super Mario Sunshine more if FLUDD the reasonably stupid squirt gun was FRY the reasonably evil flamethrower.
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Posted on 07-02-04 01:46 PM Link | Quote
mario is suposed to be childrens frindly maybe nintendo thought 3d fire was to much?
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Posted on 07-02-04 01:55 PM Link | Quote
dragon master, PLEASE tell me you're joking. Please, please, dear GOD tell me you're joking. Otherwise you should be slaughtered on the spot.

Well, Smash Brothers has both Super Mario and Fire Mario (sort of).

The reason they weren't in the games is because they don't really work well in 3D. Fireballs would be too annoying to use in 3D and not very useful. Super Mario would be similarly pointless as they have a new health system in Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine.

And a flamethrower would mean you'd have to change the entire game around. Wouldn't work. Plus I don't really see Mario with a flamethrower, doesn't work well.

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Posted on 07-02-04 02:35 PM Link | Quote
i meant what would happen when you hit something! but im just stupid right now
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Posted on 07-02-04 03:03 PM Link | Quote
Mario with flamethrower, bet that there is skin for FPS games of Mario.

Super Mario world work in the 3D games, running around as a giant would be intresting sometimes in the 3D games. (but only if they make it temponary or something)

Besides it seems like they are trying something new for each game.

I can see the fire mario working in 3D games.

BTW, Smash bros could be called "A game that looks 3D, but have 2D gameplay" (nothing wrong with that, SSB rocks! )
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Posted on 07-02-04 07:03 PM Link | Quote
I think the health system should be removed. I mean, in Super Mario 64, you were able to refill it wherever there was water. Too easy. Just put back the dificulty by removing the health system, and you have Super, Fire and maybe Cape Mario. And maybe even Racoon Mario and so on.

It IS called Super Mario for a reason

Oh yeah, SMB DS is coming soon on, shockingly enough, the DS. They'll have Big and Small Mario in that, I'd imagine.
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Posted on 07-02-04 07:15 PM Link | Quote
I think the next one should have some older power-ups. They made the game more interesting. At least in Super Mario 64, there were "caps" that gave Mario at least similar powers. In Super Mario Sunshine, there was... FLUDD. No invulnerability or anything.
Alastor the Stylish
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Posted on 07-02-04 07:25 PM Link | Quote
Those caps should've been in more places in SM64. Not even close to as plentiful as they are in other games. Not to say they weren't fun, though. But come on... Starman >>> Metal Cap ;-;
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Posted on 07-02-04 07:27 PM Link | Quote
Starman >>> Metal Cap, but Metal Cap Music >>> Starman Music.

Of course, the item itself is more important than the music, but the Metal Cap music was funky I know they're basically the same song, but the Metal remix was great.


(edited by Ed on 07-02-04 10:28 AM)
Alastor the Stylish
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Posted on 07-02-04 07:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ed
Starman >>> Metal Cap, but Metal Cap Music >>> Starman Music.

Of course, the item itself is more important than the music, but the Metal Cap music was funky I know they're basically the same song, but the Metal remix was great.


True... I did like that music... But the metal cap didn't last long enough for it to be good. Of course, that probably made composing it easier.
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Posted on 07-03-04 10:52 AM Link | Quote
I, too, would like to see the classic powerups in a 3D game. There are ways to make fireballs decent to use outside of two dimensions.

My solution (yours, and most importantly, Miyamoto's, may vary) :
Face an enemy for half a second and a little fire flower icon will show up on it, hit your fire flower button and you'll send a fireball zipping off in its direction. If there are multiple enemies, hold down the fire flower button for a bit, and release fireballs at each of them all at once. I'd make the fireballs move a lot faster and redirect themselves every bounce for five bounces or so (three to get there, two to re-aim), to make up for their innacuracy in 3D space.
Alastor the Stylish
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Posted on 07-04-04 06:26 AM Link | Quote
I wouldn't want an extra system, though. Just a fireball button. Screw accuracy; Make the player AIM, dammit.
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Posted on 07-04-04 07:40 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Mario with flamethrower, bet that there is skin for FPS games of Mario. ...


I had Mario and Luigi skins (diminuitive ones) of them toting guns in DooM. Used for DooM Legacy.

I dunno...maybe Fire Flower died? It wouldn't make sense to me either...but then I haven't played past the SNES with Nintendo for a reason...
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Posted on 07-04-04 08:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Mario with flamethrower, bet that there is skin for FPS games of Mario.


It's been a question on the Atari Boards, but no one has come up with one for Unreal 2k4 yet =( I would probably use it if it were made, but right now Osama Bin Laden is going to be doing my gibbing for a while ;D
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