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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
man... the `page rendered` thing is how long the server took to parse the php. use a stopwatch and measure your time.

edit: i swear i didn't see that other post before. freedos beat me to it.


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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Many people make that mistake... at many sites/forums. It's a reasonable mistake, too.

The actual text should be "script processed in x seconds" and not "rendered in x seconds". Technicality error by Acmlm.
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Originally posted by Legion
Oh, and I just noticed something. I'll get the "page rendered" thing at the bottom WHILE the page is still loading. I thought that was pretty weird. Also, I thought it was kind of ironic but when I loaded this page in Firefox, it delayed at my layout. Yes, a CSS layout. Doesn't do that in IE.
Well, but that's becuse it wasn't in the cache, when it's well is in the cache it loads it's very fast.

I did test IE on this page and I got no CSS loading troubles thought, the same with Firefox.

IE isn't as sucky browser as some people tries to make it. But it does annoy me that PNG isn't fully supported in IE. I really hope they add that in Longhorn at least.


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Okay, I just ran a test. I started a stopwatch after hitting CTRL+F5 [no-cache reload] for the first test, and then clicked "MAIN" for the second test.

As soon as the status bar disappeared/read DONE I'd hit STOP. Here's how it came out. Allow 0"20 for reflexes.

Total load time for INDEX.PHP from FIREFOX  : 17"25 [cache 04"57]
Total load time for INDEX.PHP from OPERA : 08"23 [cache 04"16]
Total load time for INDEX.PHP from IEXPLORE : 18"73 [cache 04"66]


Internet Explorer in last [as usual], Firefox with a very slight gain, and Opera blasting away.

Heh...
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
"Allow 0"20 for reflexes."

My ass.

A human stopwatch test is soooo inaccurate it's not even funny.
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Originally posted by Legion
"Allow 0"20 for reflexes."

My ass.

A human stopwatch test is soooo inaccurate it's not even funny.
*0"50

Stupid numpad.

Anyway, even if it was me fucking up, there's no damn way in hell I'd screw up a time by over 10 seconds

But still... it'd be nice if there was something that would automatically check it. Heh.

Then again, with Opera's build-your-own-statusbar thing, I can just look at the time. It downloaded and rendered this page in three seconds.

Great feature, I think. I juts like all the little tidbits Opera gives you. More status message details [request queued, looking up host name, etc] and actual information [Document: 100% / Total: 40KB /Images: 40/48 / Speed: 3.5kb/s] and more.

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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
This thread is actually starting to get quite amusing.
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Originally posted by Legion


I wasn't logged in at the time, hence no layouts or schemes. Sounds to me like you have to perform a list of objectives to get the image to display properly. And Jesper, you're bragging about it?
A list of objectives? It's a transparent image. It will show what's behind it, even with limited opacity (semi-transparent). Sure, if you have to prove to yourself that it really IS transparent; here:


Originally posted by Legion
All the small things that are wrong with Firefox add up too. Scrolling gets messed up sometimes, it's display of tables is downright horrid most of the time, it's user interface is cluttered and highly unorganized... things such as that really make it piss-poor.

The only reason why it's so popular is because of the pop-up blocker (which is easily beaten by Googles) and the tabbed messaging.
First of all, I haven't seen scrolling mess up in actual use on any page after having used it for six months on several computers, for hours daily on literally thousands of sites. I did however see it mess up when I had multiple Firebird installs (back when it was Firebird), and that was indeed horrible. Nuke your profile folder - go to run, enter %AppData%\Phoenix\Profiles\default\ and hit enter. Delete the xxxxxxxx.slt folder.

I've seen the odd table misrendered because the page was coded with so called "tag soup" - leaving off end tags and assuming that the web browser will figure out it itself, not quoting tag attributes, etc. This is laziness on the site's part, not necessarily a flaw in the browser (although rendering tag soup is a sign of a good browser).

I agree to some of these other things as well. It took me about one month to settle in mentally with it not being like IE. But there's more. Firefox itself is pretty basic. The neat thing about it is that I get to choose myself what features I want. I have an extension that improves tabbed browsing, one for copying image contents on right click in addition to copying image location, a few small ones to allow me to search dictionary.com or several programming reference sites, etc. Let's hear that again - I get to choose what I want. I don't need all features by every extensions, true, but I don't have to install all of them. I can pick what I want and not be locked in with a set of features and a few neat search toolbars which lets you pick Yahoo or Google basically. Ad blocking, CSS editing on the fly, fine-tuning where new tabs open.

I'd like to hear what things in the interface you don't like. Like I said, I was outright bothered by some things in the first month, and most things I could change or improve myself. I can help you out if you want to.

And again, you got timing all wrong. Like about fifty, sixty people have pointed out () the thing at the bottom on the board is generation time on the server end. The correct way to measure is from you hit enter in the address field until the status bar reads "Done".

Firefox most of the time renders faster than IE, but may be bogged down a bit if you have like ten or twenty extensions going (you can disable them temporarily to help that). And Opera ofcourse is very, very, very fast. Speaking of that, maybe you should try Opera, if you don't mind the ads (you can turn them into text ads) or can get it cracked or something. I'm not personally comfortable with it because it's just a bit too different but maybe you'll like it.
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Socialdemokraterna had 24% of the votes if I
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
I guess I can't complain anymore. Here it went down 18 cents a gallon in less than a week, now being $1.99 for regular, and the trend is continuing.
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Haha, that drawing looks crappy but...yet amazing... Great!

You should get some Coke, Kirbnite... *Gives YD a Uma plushie*
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So, the sign-up phase is done, we got 16 people from the sign-up thread (any signup later will be ignored now), assumed Xkeeper will be able to join for sure, so we can get a classic system consisting of four rounds. Participants are as followed:

- Kirby all the way (Katw, since it's a longer nick)
- Chaosflare
- Cardcaptor Yoshi (CC Yoshi)
- Gandalf The Grey (Gandalf or GtG )
- Hiryuu
- Colleen
- Kitten Yiffer
- Felix
- Kefka
- Angel
- KawaiiImoto (Imoto)
- Waddler-D
- Clockworkz
- Maticolotto
- Kyouji
- Xkeeper (he may be dropped, he said that, but wanted to be signed up too)

The rules and way of the games:

1.) Download ZSNES 1.36, no WIP version, but the normal Window version of that emulator. www.zsnes.com is your address.
2.) Download the most recent version of ZBattle from www.zbattle.net and set up path to emulator and ROM directory. It is strongly recommended to back up your Tetris Attack ROM, since ZBattle eats ROMs of broken downloads from the host (!), or simply create an own folder for ZBattle ROMs and move copies from the regular ROMs in here.
If you don't have a TA ROM, let it download from someone else or your opponent via ZBattle.net directly
3.) Make sure, ZSNES and zbattle may pass your firewall: maybe you need to deactive or shut down it during Netplay (like me with Zone Alarm, which sometimes fails with some opponents, when the firewall is active) and the ZSNES Netplay port
- If that fails, change the host/client role; if even that fails, try a direct connection via Netplay and your IPs or download the mIRC plugin Z-Net from www.z-net.tk
If you cannot get a connection at all, post it here; then we'll see what to do.

4.) Get a date via PM, IM or Email when you want to make the game. I stronlgy recommend a trial match; just to see how laggy/fluently your connection runs
4b.) If you want, record some ZSNES movies of your matches; not required, but would be funny and nice for alle people to watch the games too
5.) Post the results in here, like "Hiryuu vs. Maticolotto 1-2" for example

The games have to be
- 2P VS mode, speed level 5 is to be set
- Best of three: Who wins THREE games of 2 wins (counter/match points below the speed level display), WINS the duel.

The first round has a gaming window of one week, until next monday, 9:00 AM; players not be able to finish the game until then will be dropped out of the tourney.

Here the matchups I got by drawing lots, don't complain, all turned out by randomization
The beaten person is shown in stroken text, the winner in bold type letters

- Gandalf vs Felix
- Angel vs Xkeeper
- Katw vs Kyouji; 2:0 for Katw
- Kitten Yiffer vs Kefka
- Hiryuu vs Clockworkz
- Chaosflare vs Maticolotto
- Waddler vs CC Yoshi; 2:0 for Waddler
- Imoto vs Colleen




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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Wow, I'm in 4th overall! Even though the lull is dying down... I've gotten 30 points in the last 4 days from it!
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
I celebration of your anniversary Im gonna draw you a pic of Uma!
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Which frickin' second screen? Do you mean game screensho?

Anyway, I came to think about Pok
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
- Kitten Yiffer vs Kefka

Eh, we have a small problem here. Kefka is no longer at this board, thought I maybe could try to contact him just for this tournament...
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
Well, try to get a hold of him Kitten Yiffer...at least via AIM or something, see if he's gonna play...and if nothing else you'll probably either get a free ride to next round or you'll play someone that has a person that also left or is cannot play.
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
And i'm gonna draw Feline uma from mars. :O
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Posted on 01-01-70 11:02 PM Link
And i'm gonna draw Feline uma from mars.

That doesn't sound like such a good idea...
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I already bid on it
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