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firemaker Level: 26  Posts: 25/247 EXP: 94178 For next: 8097 Since: 03-23-04 From: UK berkshire Since last post: 17 days Last activity: 11 days |
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| who knows where i can get a snes decompiler. i want to decompile supermetroid and recompile it to put it on my flash cart plz help!!!!!!! where do i get the decompiler | |||
LocalH Red Goomba Level: 12  Posts: 5/46 EXP: 7612 For next: 309 Since: 03-17-04 Since last post: 25 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| You mean you want to port the game onto the GBA so you can run it on a flash cart? Sorry. Unless you're willing to reverse engineer every last bit of the game and port the assembly code to the GBA, then it's not going to happen. You don't just 'decompile' and 'recompile' a game for a different platform. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1864/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I assume that you know already, firemaker, that porting a game to the GBA would be quite a long project... I don't know where a decompiler is, but check the usual suspects such as Zophar... | |||
Weasel Missionary in PeruLevel: 34  Posts: 325/454 EXP: 236444 For next: 17207 Since: 03-15-04 From: Washington Since last post: 467 days Last activity: 339 days |
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I've never even heard of a decompiler  From what I understood, once it's compiled, the program stays compiled, unless you hand code it back to source code. Which would suck. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 594/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| decompilers are the holy grail of the computing programming...the closest "decompiler" that exist is a program that will change the game's data into assembly... | |||
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Grinto Red Goomba Level: 12 Posts: 11/43 EXP: 6890 For next: 1031 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Where did the initial poster even mention GBA?  |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 598/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Grinto two words: flash cart many people associate that word, in the context of ROMs, with the GBA (edited by neotransotaku on 05-17-04 12:29 PM) |
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Grinto Red Goomba Level: 12 Posts: 12/43 EXP: 6890 For next: 1031 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Most people? Heh, that's news to me. | |||
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Ultima4701 Newcomer Level: 5  Posts: 2/7 EXP: 452 For next: 77 Since: 03-15-04 From: Florida Since last post: 492 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Yes, there is no such thing as "flashing" a snes cart. You could potentially reverse engineer all of super metroid's source code into something usable, but as mentioned, that would do nothing in the way of getting the game onto GBA. Getting the raw source itself is not difficult. Super Metroid is primarily* programmed in 65816 assembly; and all assembly languages I'm familiar with have a 1:1 ratio of source instructions to actual binary output. You don't compile assembly source code; you assemble it. The difference is subtle but meangingful, especially in this case. You cannot decompile any program and receive substantial, useful source code in a high level language such as C (regardless of the original language used to create the binary). You can, however, disassemble binaries and get precise matches of source instructions in whatever language the binary was built for. Of course, your disassembly will not be very pretty if the original programming language used to compile the binary was high-level; during the compilation process of high-level languages, much is changed and lost especially during the advanced optimizations. When assembling a low-level language, you lose comments, white space, line labels, and source file organization; but at least you can re-source the actual instructions properly. To the original poster: in the future, check first to see if the source code you're trying to get was portable in the first place. Super Metroid's is not. *It has been suggested, and seems clear by certain pieces of code studied by those wiser than I, that parts of the game [and indeed, other snes games] were programmed in C. Some of the best clues to this involved rather inefficient or just plain stupid-looking code, which is very unlikely to have been written by hand considering the quality of the rest of the work. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 682/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well first of all, you don't decompile a game (unless you have a LOT of spare time to do it by hand), you disassemble it. Second, you don't need to do any such thing for a flash cart, unless you meant on something other than SNES, which won't work anyway. | |||
theclaw Red Cheep-cheep Level: 24  Posts: 66/202 EXP: 69367 For next: 8758 Since: 03-28-04 From: USA Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 7 min. |
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| They don't make flash carts for using on a real SNES? If that's what he wants, there's no need to compile or assemble anything. Just connect the flash cart to a PC, upload a ROM, then put that into the SNES and play. Putting SNES games on GBA isn't so easy. Leave that for the big development teams (you could kindly ask Nintendo to port it, but I doubt it'll work). | |||
Omega45889 Panser Level: 30  Posts: 96/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| There is a SNES emulator for GBA that can be used with flash carts. Im not sure how good it is, but u could try it. If you are trying to flash a homemade Snes cart, u dont need to decompile anything. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1879/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Omega45889 Which, by the way, can be found here. (edited by Kefka on 05-18-04 02:41 PM) (edited by Kefka on 05-18-04 02:41 PM) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1756/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| No here http://www.snesadvance.org/ That's not the offical site, it's just some site who is trying to sell Flash carts. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1891/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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I seem to have trouble finding the real sites nowadays  Remember when this sorta thing happened when I found (note, I did not DISCOVER) PocketNES? |
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BGenesis Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 26/38 EXP: 5415 For next: 570 Since: 05-17-04 From: In the tyranny that is Brittania. Since last post: 516 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Check out the Utils section of http://www.gbxemu.com/ It should have what you need, although many games are buggy/don't work. Why not just play SNES games on your Dreamcast like everyone else?  |
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firemaker Level: 26 Posts: 26/247 EXP: 94178 For next: 8097 Since: 03-23-04 From: UK berkshire Since last post: 17 days Last activity: 11 days |
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Originally posted by BGenesis because i dont have a dreamcast. not many people do. anyway is snes 16 bit or 32. myn friend i refused 2 speak to each other after we had this argument |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN  Posts: -4403/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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Originally posted by firemaker16.Originally posted by BGenesis Pretty damn sure, anyway. After all, the PSX was 32  |
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Geiger Buster Beetle Level: 34  Posts: 57/460 EXP: 241080 For next: 12571 Since: 03-15-04 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Relevant SNES bittage: CPU: 16 bit Graphics: 15 bit Sound: 8 bit (sorta) ---Evil Peer |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 715/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| SNES has 15-bit colour, 16-bit registers (switchable to 8-bit), and 24-bit addressing. The instructions are variable sizes. |
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