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Setzer Popo Level: 36  Posts: 14/532 EXP: 290182 For next: 17928 Since: 04-22-04 From: Not Florida. because I'm going to sink it. Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 48 min. |
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Originally posted by NEONswift I hate to break this to you, but hacking isn't supposed to be easy. hacking is supposed to be challenging, when it's not, people make a bunch of shit hacks that suck. hacks shoudl also not be rushed out, but have time taken on them until they're perfected, not bug-ridden and incomplete. |
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30  Posts: 64/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Lol, Isnt corona watered down crap??? lmao, sry, maybe you like it... Anyways, thx for the compliments, Its not 100% done yet, Im still debugging, but me and SSJ4Link (my beta tester) cant find em all. NEONswift. I didnt mean ur demo wasnt good, cause it was. It is what got me interested in actually doing something, and I thank you for it. Im sure ur hack is gonna be great. Also, how is that hack comming along? |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 14/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Cheers Omega. Its coming along quite well. Havent done much progress lately cause im stuck on a right bastard of a bug but hopefully ill get through it soon.Originally posted by SkifflesThats what i was saying. If you are opting for a boring and not quick hack then creating the maps is a piece of piss. If you put a lot of work into a zelda hack then your dungeons shouldnt really be able to fit in with the old map templates cause the rooms will be completely different. Both myself and Omega have put a lot of time into our hacks. Getting good at using Hyrule Magic is a challenge in itself so to actually have any hacks released at all is a miracle. If youve noticed theres only a select few of us still working on Zelda3 hacks. (edited by NEONswift on 04-22-04 09:57 PM) |
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Setzer Popo Level: 36 Posts: 16/532 EXP: 290182 For next: 17928 Since: 04-22-04 From: Not Florida. because I'm going to sink it. Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 48 min. |
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| there's only a select few of people working on any hack other than super mario world or final fantasy. If your dungeon doesn't fit the old templates, you should make new templates, simple as that. | |||
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 15/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I thought that was what i said...unless you read me wrong. | |||
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Setzer Popo Level: 36 Posts: 17/532 EXP: 290182 For next: 17928 Since: 04-22-04 From: Not Florida. because I'm going to sink it. Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 48 min. |
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| It was, I'm pressuring the bloke to do it. | |||
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30 Posts: 65/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Good point NEONswift. BTW, this is just a thought, but I trust that your hack is quality work, and my skills have gotten a lot better, and thats why my game gets a lot better as it goes on, so, If me, you, and perhaps Elucid(if hes willing) pool our resources, I think we could release a large scale hack inside this year or so without excess work. I wont take offence if you dont want to, but it would make sense, especially since the task of creating a game by yourself is huge. Well, consider it. If not, i think I may make a continuation for mine that is soely in dark world... who knows. Edit:"It was, I'm pressuring the bloke to do it." Man, where do u get off sayin shit like that. If u want maps, make em yourself. Ill do it in my own time. Edit 2:"cause im stuck on a right bastard of a bug" Whats the bug. I had to solve soooooo many to get my hack done. Maybe I can help. (edited by Omega45889 on 04-22-04 10:08 PM) (edited by Omega45889 on 04-22-04 10:09 PM) |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 16/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Omega45889I have considered it in the past. I did team up with Dark_X (DxEdge) to work on my own but neither one of us really got much done together. Apart from a good source of inspiration for each others work we sorta clashed. Also got stuck on annoying bugs. Damn those bugs. I did create the Hyrule Magic FAQ at TEKhacks so Euclid and the like could ask for help and in turn help me with my own queries. For these reasons im a bit reluctant. Tell you what, if say in a year neither one of us has progressed much then we can "pool". As for that bug of mine. Its a direct problem resulted from completely changing the way the Overworld is laid out. I have 3 2x2 areas located in the centre of the map. and when moving from some to the others the scroll screws up. (edited by NEONswift on 04-22-04 10:12 PM) |
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lukeprog Red Paragoomba Level: 14 Posts: 34/62 EXP: 11598 For next: 1473 Since: 04-17-04 Since last post: 539 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Omega: you "can't find them all" (all the bugs). Does that mean you're sure you haven't found all the bugs out there, or does that mean you can't find ones that have been mentioned in this thread? BTW, in the silly little room on Death Mountain with nothing but pots and bats, there is that scrolling problem again where the screen does scroll until you run back and forth, left and right, and slowly align it. You mentioned you haven't played through your hack. If you play through it you will see many of the bugs I and others have pointed out. Also, I remember some text big in one of the dialogues, but I can't remember where. It was quite near the end. Again, if you actually play once through your own hack, you'll come across it. |
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30 Posts: 66/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| huh, wierd, well, sry, cant really help you there. I got pissed off cause I turned the castle into single squares, and when I try and turn em back, HM crashes everytime. Stupid bugs. LOL. Anyways, too bad you dont want to work together, but that is your choice. The offer is still out to Elucid, but i doubt he will accept. Doesnt matter. The only thing is, I fear that those games will never be completely finished because of just how large the task is. My game is only like 1/8 the size of the origional, and it was a mammoth task. There is no way I would have gotten it out so fast if I had to do all the testing as well. Edit: Lukeprog: I mean that its to be expected that the game wont be 100% bugless, cause u dont really have the urge to explore your own areas. U have no idea how many bugs there were before I tested it. I think that the bug level in it is quite impressive as it stands(excluding of course the areas where u can leave the overworld). (edited by Omega45889 on 04-22-04 10:27 PM) |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 17/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Ill keep you in mind for beta testing when i do the next dungeon in its completed form. As for that problem reforming the castle. Its good to have an idea of the layout of the overworld first. I changed practicly every square but it only let me do it cause i wiped the rom of all the sprite crap first. Id never even attempt to change it again cause i know itll just crash. I should also thank you for this rather lengthy hack cause its given me inspiration. Ive started working on the my next dungeon's layout its a shrine full of evil fairies. Testing your own hack is one of the big problems for myself due to the time it takes up. And if you are forced to alter a tiny bit to remove a bug then it seems even more of a pain. Yet we continue. |
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30 Posts: 67/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Lol, I know exactly how you feel. Also, no offence, but if u do intendo on finishing this hack, I would rather not beta test. I have been waiting so long for a hack, and to be honest, playing my own isnt that awesome cause I know it inside out. I would really like to go into your hack not knowing anything about it. All I can hope is that my hack will inspire others to finish/start their own hacks. I would however be happy to create some areas for you, or you could take some areas from my hack. You probably wont, but if you decide taht you would like to, just ask and its urs. |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 18/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Fair point. Ive got a crosh road section thats needs doing. if you want to make it for me using HM's GFX set "32". Then ill add it in. Just plain land no water but with access from north, south, east & west. Ill of course have you as a character living in my hacks village. ALways need new residents. LOL. |
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30 Posts: 68/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Wow, thats an awesome way to give credit! I wish I had though of that. Yah, ill see what I can do, but chances are taht it wont turn out well cause it would have to fit in with your other surrounding areas. I have just committed to doing a full scale hack with someone else... mainly cause u werent interested. Anyways, can u give me a more specific idea? how do u want the divisions to be? do u want me to use trees? |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 21/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| trees are good. Im pretty good at fitting in areas into surrounding locations. Alot of what makes up areas of my hack has come from old versions of it. Somehow i made them fit. Also this area hasnt currently got any other around it so i could fit in yours and work from there. Whose the lucky team mate youve chosen then. Ah too late for me. Im off to bed. Stupid having to sleep. |
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30 Posts: 69/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| lol, he goes by the name of DUDEMAN. He contributed most of the third dungeon to my hack. I think that this next hack could be out in maybe a couple of months or so. anyways, ill get to work on ur thing first thing tomorrow. night. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 108/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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You know, on the brightside Omega, the overworld glitches in your first release of the hack will allow me to isolate the code for handling the Chris Houlihan room if I'm lucky. I got off the beaten path and entered a hole I shouldn't have gone into  . The game sends you there when there's any sort of problem with loading rooms. Time to bust out the tracing build for snes9x. |
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Euclid Cheep-cheep Level: 23 Posts: 33/193 EXP: 65528 For next: 2195 Since: 03-15-04 From: Australia Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 7 days |
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wow this thread grew.Originally posted by MathOnNapkins I believe the Chris Houlihan room has something to do with the placing of the item 80-Hole, but then, even i have problems with that damned room. somebody was asking for my "site of screens"? I haven't made one yet, i just stacked those pics in my geocities account  , try different numbers, you might find other pics i've uploaded.you want me to work with you ppl in a group hack? sure but... you need to know that i want to finish my own hack first (probably like ~60% finished already) you people are making me wanting to release a hack of the light overworld which i've done already! but to keep the surprise of the dark world i might not (and plus... only like 3% of the monologue has been edited)... you ppl need to know, a full scaled hack (that is, everything rearranged) can't be done without using a hex editor... believe me... (take credits text as example) |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 22/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Even though its impossible to alter everything without using a hex editor its possible to alter things beyond recognition. I know why youve only done 3% monologue Euclid...its because theres a crazy shit amount of it. Plus as ive done before you can completely screw up a story if you make a character say too much too early. You need to show more screenshots Euclid. WHat ive seen so far looks excellent. My own website was really less to do with releasing Zelda stuff (which is what the forums are for) but more of just a testing ground for my html, CSS and flash skills. You should try it. You pick up loads if you focus a web on something that your in the process of working on. |
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Omega45889 Panser Level: 30 Posts: 70/335 EXP: 148978 For next: 16891 Since: 03-22-04 From: Vancouver Canada Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Ok, Elucid, well, im working on a new hack now, so, when were both done, maybe we could do something, but lets leave that till then. Ill bet well both be so sick of Zelda and HM that we wont want to touch it for a long time... lol. Anyways, about releasing just ur light world, I wouldnt want you to release anything unfinished, especially if your game allows going back and forth between light and dark world. Im still debating wether or not I will allow it in my new hack, just cause its so much extra work. I think I may just allow it in certain circumstances through portals. Anyways, GL. BTW, MathOnNapkins, if u figure it out, please let us know. Glad to be of help .(edited by Omega45889 on 04-23-04 02:16 PM) |
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