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Posted on 10-28-05 07:30 AM Link | Quote
I've observed two very strange and very annoying problems on my computer within the past few days:

1) I can no longer select text with the mouse in Firefox most of the time. If I attempt to do so in a text box, nothing happens. It works with text not in a box, but either way, after a few seconds of dragging, the entire area that the text is in (be it a text box, table cell, etc) gets messed. Either it will have a blue border and I can't select any text at all, or it will disappear entirely. Only refreshing fixes this.

2) At random intervals, Textpad's keyboard input becomes garbled. It seems to be suddenly switching to a French layout - most things work, but if I type []{}\| I get ^�§�¨��� ��. Of course, the only time I use Textpad is during coding, where I have to use all of those quite often. ~ and ` type \ and /, just like in DOS when it's set to that weird "Canadian" (my ass) layout.

Now my first instinct would be to reinstall Firefox and Textpad, and if that doesn't work, Windows. But what gets me is that I've seen bug #1 on a school computer too. This computer has practically nothing on it - it's running XP SP2 just like mine (though probably less updated ), and has Firefox V1.07 installed with no extensions. Additionally, it has Deep Freeze - a program which makes any modification to any file on the hard drive temporary. This means that every time the computer is rebooted, it goes exactly back to how it was just after I installed FF, before the admins got around to turning Deep Freeze on... so it can't be *kicks Tab key a few times* a virus or a configuration problem, unless said virus is capable of disabling Deep Freeze (unlikely; it's loaded as a device driver and very secure; only known way to beat it is a boot disk), infecting the system, and then turning Deep Freeze back on. So I dunno what to think about that one. (It doesn't have Textpad installed, and I'd have no use for it there anyway.) Also, I haven't installed anything else on it, fucked with the settings, etc. (It's actually 2 different computers, but they're identical, FF installed and everything.)

Also, both of these bugs are brand spanking new; never seen any hint of them before, and I haven't updated either (or Windows) since long before they came around, aside from Firefox auto-updating the extensions.

What's really weird is that these two bugs almost seem to be related. Textpad just changed keyboard layouts a few minutes ago, and suddenly, I'm able to select text properly in Firefox again. Both of them seem to come and go at random.

[edit] Figured out what was up with Textpad. Big surprise! It was the language bar! Dumb thing randomly decided to install a bunch of extra languages (German, Greek, even Tatar, whatever the hell that is) and set the shortcut keys that change to them to stupid ones like Shift+Space (which you normally can't even use). God I hate that thing... isn't there any better program I can use to type Japanese?

Argh. Now I can't set a shortcut to switch to English.


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Posted on 10-28-05 07:33 PM Link | Quote
It could be a new virus since some effects take place outside of your browser. I cannot stress virus scanning enough, just make sure you don't accidently delete any important files. Btw, Firefox sucks...
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Posted on 10-28-05 08:35 PM Link | Quote
You always have troubles for some reason

Yeah, do your normal scans if you haven't already... then go download SystemRescueCd, boot it, update the ClamAV database, and scan the hard disk offline.

Oh, and I wouldn't overestimate Deep Freeze's security. It's a proprietary program, and just like 99% of them, the developer won't tell you about bugs or exploits.

God I hate that thing... isn't there any better program I can use to type Japanese?

I don't know, unless you'd like to switch to an OS with that feature built-in and non-buggy
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Posted on 10-28-05 10:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
[edit] Figured out what was up with Textpad. Big surprise! It was the language bar! Dumb thing randomly decided to install a bunch of extra languages (German, Greek, even Tatar, whatever the hell that is) and set the shortcut keys that change to them to stupid ones like Shift+Space (which you normally can't even use). God I hate that thing... isn't there any better program I can use to type Japanese?

Argh. Now I can't set a shortcut to switch to English.
You know you can change the keys for the language bar in windows right?
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Posted on 10-29-05 01:17 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cruel Justice
It could be a new virus since some effects take place outside of your browser. I cannot stress virus scanning enough, just make sure you don't accidently delete any important files. Btw, Firefox sucks...

AVG is running 24/7 to prevent any viruses from executing, and I do virus and adware scans twice a month. And Firefox sucks the way an alarm clock does - not at all, unless there's something very wrong with it.

Originally posted by FreeDOS
You always have troubles for some reason

Computers hate me.


Oh, and I wouldn't overestimate Deep Freeze's security. It's a proprietary program, and just like 99% of them, the developer won't tell you about bugs or exploits.

True, but what virus is capable of bypassing it and not being picked up by AVG or Norton? (Yes, the school computers run Norton and Deep Freeze. )


I don't know, unless you'd like to switch to an OS with that feature built-in and non-buggy

I would, but I also like having an OS where I can do simple things without typing a lot of obscurely-named commands that don't even ask before doing something dangerous.
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Posted on 10-29-05 01:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
I would, but I also like having an OS where I can do simple things without typing a lot of obscurely-named commands that don't even ask before doing something dangerous.


k. http://centos.org/ You can even install Japanese as another language, along with (Canadian) English. If you care to log in to an environment where everything is in Japanese (or one of the other 30+ languages you can chose to install)


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Posted on 10-29-05 02:49 PM Link | Quote
That does sound interesting. Though the biggest problem with me switching to any free OS (save for maybe ReactOS, but it's not done yet) is that I write Win32 programs regularly, in C, using raw Win32 code, GDI, etc... stuff that, to my knowledge, isn't easy to port. Seeing how this represents at least half the time I spend on the computer, it's rather important. As far as the OS itself, basically I'm looking for Windows with much more power and far less bugs. I've tried Mandrake and Gentoo and neither really gave me that feel; Mandrake was buggy (probably my CPU, but yeah) and just felt... weird, and Gentoo is user-frendly the way chess is a sport.

Though right now I'm just wondering if anyone knows WTF is up with Firefox. This bug just keeps appearing and disappearing, never shown up before, and is very annoying.
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Posted on 10-29-05 02:59 PM Link | Quote
Eh, text selection in Firefox has always been a little bugged for me. A lot of times, the highlighting will go totally out of whack, highlighting things it's not supposed to, or not erasing the highlight when I click elsewhere. I can't say it's ever gotten any more serious than that, though...
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Posted on 10-29-05 10:23 PM Link | Quote
Okay, I'm carrying away the topic into another one... but I don't know about your Firefox problem or the typing one. I never have problems with Firefox, and I don't use Windows either so k

About the porting thing: if you're already coding in MinGW, it'd be a snap to port. Just compile with wine-gcc (if you've got WINE installed), and you'll have a native binary that links to the WINE library (winelib), a Win32 API emulation layer. Or you could install MinGW on GNU/Linux, compile your applications into native Win32 PE binaries, and just use WINE to run them. Whatever you want
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Posted on 10-30-05 12:23 AM Link | Quote
Well that's an idea, but doesn't WINE cost money? Or am I thinking of something else? And I'd need to still be able to make Win32 versions.
Originally posted by BMF98567
Eh, text selection in Firefox has always been a little bugged for me. A lot of times, the highlighting will go totally out of whack, highlighting things it's not supposed to, or not erasing the highlight when I click elsewhere. I can't say it's ever gotten any more serious than that, though...

Yeah, that happens to me a lot. That just seems to be a small problem with the textboxes, where it'll show some random text highlighted when it's not. It's not really a big issue. This is a lot more annoying.
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Posted on 10-30-05 01:41 AM Link | Quote
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Well that's an idea, but doesn't WINE cost money? Or am I thinking of something else?

Hell no, you're probably thinking of something... weird.

WineHQ.com - get the RHEL 4 RPM... it's even labelled as CentOS-4 (since it's binary compatible with RHEL), so you can't be too mistaken.
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Posted on 10-30-05 07:56 AM Link | Quote
Well, cool. I'll keep that in mind if I ever do switch, but I think I'd like to wait until I get a DVD writer (or holographic memory card device ) to make backups. Backing up 70GB of stuff to a really slow 18GB disk is quite the pain.

Speaking of weird bugs, though... this isn't really a problem, but I noticed that various System Information readouts, like msinfo32.exe, are claiming I have 512MB of RAM, when I really only have 256 (and the System control panel shows this).
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Posted on 10-31-05 05:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
God I hate that thing... isn't there any better program I can use to type Japanese?


Try http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~grosenth/jwpce.html I don't use it much, but a friend does.
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