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PKMNHackz Micro-Goomba Level: 4 Posts: 1/18 EXP: 249 For next: 30 Since: 10-22-05 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 3 days |
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| To Mods: I am sorry if you classify this as spam. It was posted here not long ago but I have more stuff to add to it. ------- As everybody all knows, there was a post created by Kawa here not that long ago. It was in regards to the finished development of the most popular program (don't u dare come near me advancemap zombies), EliteMap. I am just learning about this in response to the many emails sent to me by EliteMap users. But there's more to add-- the fact that if you take a look at the homepage (which can be found in no more than 2 seconds on google if u know what you're doing), which is http://helmetedrodent.kickassgamers.com/, you will probally notice on the sidebar that there is no Obesidan. Which I automatically thought that they halted development on the hack. ------- And as for the addition part, I was a member here before. I was pkmnemerald, but I went through a series of withdrawals when my motherboard went (BOOM!). It didn't explode, but something went teribally wrong. And so, I am halting development on my Ruby hack, Pokemon Kronos. No furhter work will be done on this hack and no screenshots or previews will be posted anywhere on the internet until I can restore my development enviroment, which may take a really long time being the reason that my (censored) cdrom drive decides to be selective. ------- Oh, and getting back on topic, we all aren't sure we're reading some of these threads right, because it looks as if, EliteMaps gonna go? ------- As for all the AdvanceMap users, you are all lame, EliteMap rocks. Don't say different. I will sick Kawa's old post titled "LOOK MA! HUMPIN PIKACHUS!!!!!!!!!" on ya. (kidding about the pika's). What I really ment to say is, we don't want you to go elitemap. If you do, then make your program opensource so other people can continue working on the best pokemon advance game editor i've ever seen. You guys are 10000000000(to lazy to hold the 0 key) times beter than advancemap, even from the cons between you two. |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70  Posts: 2422/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| There is nothing altogether spammy about this post. In fact, it's one of the better ones I've seen so far. Even for a first post. Yes. Obsidian is halted. You guessed that right. I might release EliteMap as open source some time 'round Christmas, but the sheer idiocy on display makes me think twice about it. That's about the only reason I have not to do it. |
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Totakeke Red Tektite Level: 13  Posts: 71/73 EXP: 10241 For next: 26 Since: 02-05-05 From: California Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It'd be great if EM was continued, but if it is, the source should be given to someone with experience and knowledge. Or do you want to see a million threads by noobs titled "LOOK @ MY PKMN HACKING TOOL DAT I MADE ALL BY MYSELF!"? :/ | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 2424/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by TotakekeMy point eggsackly. |
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Chibi Pan Mini Octorok Level: 5  Posts: 11/11 EXP: 293 For next: 236 Since: 08-29-05 From: Well, I dunno. I guess I WANT to be in Japan. Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 58 days |
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| Hmm. I can see where you're coming from, about the n00bish people compiling your source with a few edits and saying it's theirs. If people spam crap, then let them spam. You have to be pretty damned stupid not to realize it's EliteMap when you look at it. Perhaps you should only give it to selected groups of people, or just release an older, tampered source, with some features removed. | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 2426/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by Chibi PanMy idea eggsackly. Oh yeah, sorry to break out of the topic but would you mind staying the fuck out of my wiki, Pan? |
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Supakitsune Tektite Level: 14  Posts: 57/58 EXP: 10355 For next: 2716 Since: 05-01-04 From: New Bark Town, Johto District Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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Maybe you could release the source, but have certain parts of it (like the About page  ) hardcoded or otherwise uneditable? |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 2428/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by SupakitsuneImpossible. 'Sides, every protection is -meant- to be cracked. |
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Xeon Goomba Level: 7  Posts: 23/25 EXP: 1288 For next: 160 Since: 07-19-05 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Kawa gave me the source to EliteMap, but I was told not to release it, or atleast thats what I automatically assumed. And no offense to EliteMap or anyone who worked on it, but updating or maintaining the code is a NIGHTMARE... I myself tried to fix it up and optimize it, and I found myself running into worse and worse and worse code buried within itself...  . I am not saying it's a bad program, i'm saying the sourcecode gives me goose bumps. I've been coding VB6 for about 5 years now, and that is some HORRIBLE code.(edited by Kyoufu Kawa on 10-28-05 09:54 AM) |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 2437/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Remember: I did NOT write the main EliteMap editing and rendering code. | |||
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Light PKMN Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 5/4 EXP: 52 For next: 76 Since: 09-21-05 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 10 hours |
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| Kawa-Sama If you do relece the Elite Map Source code there will be another thing to worry about.... What if the Advance map Creators Use you sorce code to better Advance Map Only a Thought I had to Share... From Chris-Kohai |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 2441/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by Light PKMNThen I shall kill them. |
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PKMNHackz Micro-Goomba Level: 4 Posts: 5/18 EXP: 249 For next: 30 Since: 10-22-05 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 3 days |
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| Better yet, we just make sure they don't release a update with lots of enhancements. If they do, they will be *ahem* very poor by the time i'm done with em. Oh, I was bored someday, so I created a joke link (doesn't work) http://www.microsoft.com/allofusareassholessowecanthelpyou/bananas! |
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Tauwasser Goomba Level: 10  Posts: 25/27 EXP: 3424 For next: 990 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 18 hours Last activity: 18 hours |
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Kawa gave me the source to EliteMap, but I was told not to release it, or atleast thats what I automatically assumed. And no offense to EliteMap or anyone who worked on it, but updating or maintaining the code is a NIGHTMARE... I myself tried to fix it up and optimize it, and I found myself running into worse and worse and worse code buried within itself... . I am not saying it's a bad program, i'm saying the sourcecode gives me goose bumps. I've been coding VB6 for about 5 years now, and that is some HORRIBLE code. So true  It indeed IS a nightmare--- It's so many people's work in there (including mine) that it's pretty messy because people have different stiles. Most of it all the Problem is, that it was all added upon and not "unified" by one Person, but just fixed where it lacked  It's very hard to trace and some functions use another 5 functions to do something later included in one function or so. Maybe SMB can make comments into the current code and release these, so people will at least know what they're looking at--- of course only if it is released afterall. (yes, i know there ARE comments in there...it just seems, they're not sufficient enough)cYa, Tauwasser |
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PKMNHackz Micro-Goomba Level: 4 Posts: 6/18 EXP: 249 For next: 30 Since: 10-22-05 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 3 days |
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| I will talk to AdvanceMap authors to see about this. Maybe, just maybe, we can get them to cancel AdvanceMap and help us work on EliteMap. It's worth a try, at least.  PKMNHackz http://www.freespaces.com/gk67islands/ |
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Xeon Goomba Level: 7 Posts: 25/25 EXP: 1288 For next: 160 Since: 07-19-05 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| Why would the author of AdvanceMap want to switch from a language such as Delphi, to go with a slower, less capable language as VisualBasic 6? He wouldn't. In addition to that, AdvanceMap is made in Delphi, and EliteMap is made in VB6, so I highly doubt that AdvanceMap authors would want to switch. | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 2459/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by XeonVB is not necesarily "less capable", you'd be surprised. Limits are made to be broken. But aside from that... Quoted for truth. More or less. |
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