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Snika Boo Level: 44  Posts: 830/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| Ooookay... I think this best belongs in Hardware/Software, as it doesn't have much to do with emulation. I recently have been getting into some 'hardcore' emulation, and have aquired a .ISO image of a certain GameCube game that appears to meet the requirements as a legitement bootleg (i.e. it runs very slowly in the GameCube emulator, but works). Sense GameCube emulation is still awful, I read up on how to burn the .ISO image to a disk that the actual GameCube could run. It said to get some Mini DVD-Rs, so I did. I have succesfully burned the ISO to a disk, but now my GameCube cannot run it (big surprise!). So, I have waisted one disk out of the five disks, not rewritable. I'm a dumbass. Why didn't I get RWs? My question is, can I format the next disk I try to put the .ISO on so it can be read on a GameCube? I really would not like to mod my GameCube so it could read any type of DVD as some tutorials suggest, because I have no knowledge of hardware. Please help! |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 7756/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The only way your Gamecube will ever play a burned disc is with a modchip, unless Nintendo missed a spot in their security system, and they've gone to extreme lengths to ensure they didn't. Of course, you could get PSO and a BBA and use the streaming method without modding, but it's pretty crappy (no disc; you need to load PSO and send the game from the PC every time you want to play, it lags, and of course you can't go online). | |||
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 2392/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Format a DVD? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off. Hard. If you've ever looked at a burner like Nero, it has options for what filesystem to use on the disc (although not for ISO, ISO automatically copies the format directly from the source). A CD or DVD doesn't have formatting. All the track info is stored in the beginning of the disc. |
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Snika Boo Level: 44 Posts: 833/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by Tombguy Excuse me for not being a nerd and knowing all of this. Thanks HyperHacker. I found a tutorial here... http://www.consoleworkshop.co.uk/Tutorials/GC%20laser%20tweak.php This shows how to modifiy your system so it will read most any DVD. Is this legitement? Edit: It may have something to do with the brand of DVD-Rs I'm using... Memorex DuraLayers. I guess I could try a different brand... (edited by Snika on 10-16-05 02:18 PM) |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1633/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Tombguy That's pretty ignorant. Just because ISO-9660 and UDF are the two most common filesystems on CDs and DVDs, doesn't mean they can't have formatting. Hell, you can use any filesystem you'd like on a CD/DVD. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 7766/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Snika That's to tweak it in case it won't read discs right (and I'm guessing it's for the Japanese Q or a modded 'cube). Gamecube discs contain a very small 'bar code' which is physically pressed onto the disc. Normal discs do not (and no DVD burner you can afford can create one), and the Gamecube will not boot a disc that doesn't have this barcode. The only way is to trick it using a modchip, which enables you to do a swap trick like with the PSX. (Normally, you can't because the drive can detect when the disc is removed even if you hack the lid sensor. Yeah, pretty intricate.  )Oh and before you ask, the barcode isn't the little black one you see on every disc. Look closer and you'll see a 'ring' in the data area that goes almost all the way around near the middle - that's the one. (Can't find any pics.  ) |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 2393/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by SnikaFixed. Originally posted by FreeDOSI'd like to see you send me a CD with an NTFS filesystem. Or at least link me to a site that shows how to make one. (edited by Tombguy on 10-16-05 02:59 PM) |
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Snika Boo Level: 44 Posts: 838/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by TombguyOriginally posted by SnikaIts my turn tonight! OK, you can stop posting in this thread now. You aren't of any help. Anyways, I looked at that barcode thing. Looks pretty complicated. If only Nintendo took normal disks like the PS2 and XBox... (edited by Snika on 10-16-05 03:14 PM) (edited by Snika on 10-16-05 03:15 PM) (edited by Snika on 10-16-05 03:16 PM) |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 7767/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Snika Boo Level: 44 Posts: 840/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker He started it. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1634/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Tombguy Okay: http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XFWR86TH6SWH0D6ZPRDLPTA5Z gunzip it and burn it to a CD. I'm not sure if Windows will be able to read it, but it is a raw NTFS file system I made quickly. Made it with mkntfs, attatched the file to /dev/loop0, mounted it read/write (Linux-NTFS does that now  ), and made a single file. I know that Linux will be able to read a CD with NTFS if you mount it as type ntfs (most system have /mnt/cdrom mounted to iso9660 by default, for an obvious reason). Weather Windows reads an NTFS CD, I don't know. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 7779/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It might not, actually. It needs special drivers to read an NTFS floppy... | |||
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1635/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Yeah, I just tested it on Windows XP without any special drivers that might be able to have it work (I don't know of any). Windows can't read it. Anyway, he never asked for it to be pratical or useful, just for an NTFS volume to be on CD. You can still read it on Linux.... but the ISO 9660 filesystem is meant for CDs and I'm not surprised that Windows can't read the CD I made, I wouldn't be surprised if there's other operating systems that can't read it either (if they support NTFS in the first place... Mac OS X does, I'm not sure if other ports have been made). And here's why it's not pratical to use filesystems other than ISO 9660 or UDF (meant for DVDs, basically increases certain limits, such as ISO's restriction to a 4.0GB volume size) on a CD/DVD: 1. Ease of creation. Before burning a CD, you need data to send to it. This is why commands such as mkisofs exist to make it simple to create the filesystem. Now, in the case of just about every other file system, there's usually no tailored command to make them from a set of files, and you'll need to make a loopback device to do it (as I did with mkntfs). 2. Compatibility. Not many operating systems outside of *nix support CDs with filesystems that aren't ISO 9660. The reason *nixes will is because the CD-ROM is accessed just like any other device, as a block of data. 3. Fragmentation. The ISO 9660 is designed to not allow fragmentation of any kind, and this is to ease seeking of the CD drive's laser. I can't name any other filesystem that completely disallows fragmentation.... okay, in this small example of a single file, there wasn't any fragmentation. But suppose you're moving around files and changing their sizes before you burn it to a CD. Messy things will happen. |
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