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kuja killer Rat Level: 11 Posts: 33/80 EXP: 4582 For next: 1403 Since: 09-22-05 From: Lake Havasu City, Arizona Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| (I felt like wanting to post this because I'm feeling better right now than I did when I knew absolutely none of this stuff) So I've been getting more and more into really wanting to learn 6502 ASM in the past couple weeks. And I'm getting a little bit better a small bit at a time per day.  i'm feeling dedicated to keep going and understand more. I've been reading the 6502.txt document from Zophars Domain, but I've found another guide of this IRC chat log of one person wanting to learn how to do asm, and people being very generous in teaching the guy. It's been helping me A TON ..and i'm not even half way done yet reading it as i'm just taking things slow, not rush, learn, etc. http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:6fkZsq8k6FkJ:dahrkdaiz.panicus.org/asmlog.txt+megaman+fceud+cheat+search&hl=en Since this portion of the site doesn't exist anymore..thankfully i got it off of googles Cache. ..I never tried out any of the games they were using for examples, so i reverted to doing my own examples (following along) with megaman obviously and I've been succeeding. I am of course jotting down important notes that are discussed so that I can keep a copy of for myself in case I forget something. And I'm still reading over the 6502.txt much to get the grasp of things.Anyway, sorry for babbling on ...but I'm going to try doing what infedilty(is that how its spelt??) when he found as much offset info as he could for megaman 4 ..but i'm doing it for megaman 3. ..here's what I've found on my own currently: It's not a whole lot yet..but it's for stuff i've found...not based on other documents out there. So ..i'm going to keep learning.  __________________________________________________________________ Damage tables, HP, enemy IDs in RAM HP Tables start at $A400 (RAM) $0410 - $050F in ROM Robot Eye HP: $0446 $A107 (RAM) damage wise [p cannon] $14117 - damage dealt by P cannon $14517 - damage dealt by Hard Knuckle $14917 - damage dealt by Shadow Blade Spark Trap HP: $0474 $3C90C: Lives Counter _________________________________________________________________ CHR (graphics?) Offsets: ???? (might be sprites and other objects): $40010 - $5000F Snakeman $50010 - $51000F Magnetman $51010 - $5200F Needleman/Dark Needleman: $52010 - $5300F Geminiman/Dark Geminiman: $53010 - $5400F Hardman: $54010 - $5500F Sparkman/Dark Sparkman: $55010 - $5600F Topman: $56010 - $5700F Shadowman/Dark Shadowman: $57010 - $5800F Note: dr wily stages may be incorrect Dr Wily #1 and 4: $58010 - $5900F Dr Wily #2 and 6: $59010 - $5A00F (????) Dr Wily #3, 5: ???? ???? (it looks like some are for the stage select screen, dr wily's fortress, title screen, etc: $5A010 - $5F010 (????) |
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bbitmaster Koopa Level: 18  Posts: 102/103 EXP: 25264 For next: 4633 Since: 03-28-04 From: Knoxville, tTN Since last post: 12 days Last activity: 7 days |
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| I actually did something like that over 3 years ago (except for megaman 2), untill I got bored and stopped. I think it somewhat inspired infidelity to try it for megaman 4. (I showed it to him) http://bitmaster.panicus.org/misc/sprite%20hacking.txt fx3 probably added a lot of these to visine... this was made years ago. Before fceuxd even existed! I also remember starting on one for megaman 3... but I can't seem to find it. But if there's any specific set of offsets you want me to find for megaman 3, feel free to post. (edited by bbitmaster on 10-11-05 07:36 PM) |
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infidelity Red Paratroopa Level: 21  Posts: 152/164 EXP: 42804 For next: 7139 Since: 09-13-04 From: U.S.A. Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Yup, bbitmaster showed me a ton of offsets for Megaman 2, and he helped he get started. And after I *somewhat completed* my Megaman Ultra hack, I wanted to prove to bbitmaster, and everyone here, that I want to learn, and attempt to figure out sutff on my own. So far so good. There are a few other things I can't figure out though. I recently found 2 nifty things for Megaman 4. Instead of screenes fading in, I found the offset that makes it appear just like the classic Megaman 1-2 games, *having difficulty finding the fade out, keep getting color glitches* and, I found the timer, that counts down the Main Title song. I increased it to FF, so you can hear the entire Main Title song! :-) Your findings look impressive, I hope to see more from you, cause I'd like to hack Megaman 3, once I'm done finding as many offsets for Megaman 4, and then eventually, hacking Megaman4. Good Luck! (edited by infidelity on 10-11-05 07:46 PM) (edited by infidelity on 10-11-05 07:58 PM) (edited by infidelity on 10-11-05 08:02 PM) (edited by infidelity on 10-11-05 08:02 PM) |
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PSlugworth Red Paragoomba Level: 12  Posts: 52/52 EXP: 7588 For next: 333 Since: 09-18-04 From: Watertown, NY Since last post: 21 days Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Hmm... all this Mega Man data flooding in makes me want to steal -- I mean -- borrow it and make some kind of simplistic enemy stats editor or something... | |||
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infidelity Red Paratroopa Level: 21 Posts: 153/164 EXP: 42804 For next: 7139 Since: 09-13-04 From: U.S.A. Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 6 hours |
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| lol, that's what it's there for! I could care less about stealing. All this information is available to everybody anyways. I'm unselfish, and hope to see an awesome asm hack. That's why I posted all my findings, cause I want to share the excitement. Hack away buddy! |
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kuja killer Rat Level: 11 Posts: 36/80 EXP: 4582 For next: 1403 Since: 09-22-05 From: Lake Havasu City, Arizona Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by PSlugworth Ahh, I apoligize if megaman seems to be like the only thing I ever talk about.  ..I don't mean to ..as long as I'm learning ASM in the process I guess that's the most important thing. I'm just a real big fan of that type of game..but honestly, I have a bigger passion for the whole Final Fantasy Series which I love much more. Heck ..I own all the PS1 FF's, FF X and X-2 for PS2 .....i wish i had 11 but i don't have a credit card yet and my computer can't handle it.  ..i don't got a gamecube though so that's out of the question. ...I've played enough MM hacks that people have made..and I think Rockman Exile from Kuwatas website (japanese) is the most awsome one I've played. While most others just had lots of small glitches or problems, etc. So that's what gave me the desire to try one day making my own type of megaman game ....wether it's nes that is "so 15 years ago" ...or even if it were for PS3 and Xbox 360 ...so ...i thought that starting on the NES would be the best choice for me for now until I can move up to something harder to try. I don't really have the greatest mind of ideas...so that's why I'm just going to just go with re-creating the gameboy version for nes, ...since they are different from each other. And one question for you guys...6502 ASM is considered "low level" programming right ? ..and one of my friends told me that low level is more difficult then something that would be considered "high level" programming ...is that true ? ....so like.....the NES's type of ASM is much harder to learn then say..... the Super Nintendo or even Gameboy Advance ??? And just for the hell of it ..wanted to take 1 more screenshot of my workspace from earlier. ..can't fit everything on the screen though because I have my monitors screen resolution set to 800 x 600 because of my somewhat bad eyesight. http://www.alienaa.com/members/108/myworkspace.PNG (edited by kuja killer on 10-11-05 10:20 PM) |
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interdpth Rex Level: 36 Posts: 524/527 EXP: 294398 For next: 13712 Since: 03-20-04 Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 31 days |
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Actually, Low Level refers to working with the processor directly. Where as High level refers as to stuff needing library files to make the application rely on them. High level doesn't really need runtimes. 6502 is actually easy to learn compared to ARM, Disch taught me 6502 in 4 hours on IRC.  |
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kuja killer Rat Level: 11 Posts: 37/80 EXP: 4582 For next: 1403 Since: 09-22-05 From: Lake Havasu City, Arizona Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by interdpth Okay so in other words I got mixed up?? ..all i just wanted to know was if the NES's type of ASM is harder or easier learning, then the Super Nintendo or other consoles .. I searched for ARM programming on google..and it came up with stuff about Palms.  (edited by kuja killer on 10-12-05 07:28 PM) |
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labmaster Blue Octorok Level: 12 Posts: 41/43 EXP: 6135 For next: 1786 Since: 07-17-04 From: New Zealand! Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 2 min. |
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| ARM's both the name of the company and the generic given to the processors they make - some of which are used in Palms. The actual ARM instruction set is quite complex, but THUMB is quite straightforward. |
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