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Should the minimum age for consensual sex be the same for all states and each sex?| From the following list of choices, please choose one and then post giving your reasons for choosing that choice. | Yes, it should be 18. |
24.1%, 7 votes | Yes, it should be 16. |
44.8%, 13 votes | Yes, it should be 14. |
13.8%, 4 votes | It's fine as it is currently. |
3.4%, 1 vote | No minimum age for consensual sex. |
13.8%, 4 votes | Multi-voting is disabled.
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Thayer Fuzz Ball Level: 38  Posts: 464/988 EXP: 349428 For next: 21019 Since: 06-28-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| I'm bringing this over from a post I made in the Craziness domain regarding the apparent differences in ages that are permitted for consensual sex in the different states. Personally, I feel the minimum age should be either 18 since: 1) Most people will be out of high school so their sex life shouldn't interrupt their school; 2) They can vote, and if they can help decide the president of the US, they should be able to have sex if they want (I'm not sure of the overall connection here, but it's a thought); 3) You're considered independent by the state at this point (at least in my state), so really you should be able to do as you want largely. | |||
macks Level: 45 Posts: 835/900 EXP: 659955 For next: 209 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 22 hours |
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| Voting 14. Most people I've met are mature enough at 14. And if you're not getting fucked is a good way to mature quick. And also what do you mean by "It's fine as it is currently.". It's different over the whole world, and in many different american states. |
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Thayer Fuzz Ball Level: 38 Posts: 465/988 EXP: 349428 For next: 21019 Since: 06-28-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Gauleiter Max The poll and conversation was meant to be limited to within the US for discussion of the minimum age limit, apologies. That choice was meant to imply that you were satisfied with the current differences that are out there between states and didn't think that they should all be the same. As for what you said above, I don't think getting screwed over is going to make someone mature any faster, I think it just makes it will just make someone who is an immature dickwad into an even bigger immature dickwad since he can tack on "LOL I GOT LAID AND YOU DIDN'T" into his arsenal of lameness.  |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 3647/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I'd say the way some states have it now where the age is 18, or 16 if the other person is within a few years is good. | |||
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Thayer Fuzz Ball Level: 38 Posts: 466/988 EXP: 349428 For next: 21019 Since: 06-28-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| What about states where the minimum age for females is 14 and males at 18? You don't find that slightly inappropriate? I think it's a little odd at best. | |||
Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17  Posts: 113/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| That reminds me of this one time I was asking a Hmong girl out when I was 15, she turned me down because she was engaged to someone she'd never met O_o. First time I got a laugh out of being rejected. I was completely oblivious to the fact that the consensual sex age differred from state to state, I always thought it was 18 for men and women. Now who you could legally marry (like how directly related to you they could be) was something I heard that could be different (like 1st cousin, and maybe siblings, but that might just be a rumor, but I'm pretty sure about the 1st cousin one). But 18 sounds good to me, with a grace period for the relationships involving 17 and 18 year olds, so it's not like if a guy is having sexual relations with his 17 year old girlfriend, he can't get slapped with a statutory rape suit. No one give me that "if it's consensual it's not statutory rape" crap, either, the definition of statutory rape states nothing of consent, just sexual relations. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 5291/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I prefer the consentual age of 16. I mean, there are tonnes of immature kids out there. But I just have some sort of bizzare aversion to the number 14 and thinking that kids, people like my little sister and her friends, are out having sex. It isn't exactly a nice prospect for the protective big brother. | |||
geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 412/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| I think the age should be 18 I mean, of course stuff is going to happen regardless of what the "rules" are. At least this way it might discourage older men from seeking young girls. Plus I don't think teenagers, the 12-18 range, are as mature as they think they are. Sure you feel more and more mature as you progress through those years, but you're not ready at that age to take on the resposibilities that sex brings. Why not enjoy life as a teenager in other ways? At least then you're not the girl that got pregnant (or the guy that got the girl pregnant). |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 1522/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| No minimum age for consensual sex. | |||
Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 469/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| I agree in principle, an arbitrary cut-off is a blunt instrument and not very accurate a determiner of maturity since it varies for everyone. However you need the laws there to protect youngins from older folks, a statutory rape law - this is what the minimum age is for, not for preventing horny 14 year olds from fucking one another. Ideally it'd be 15 or 16ish, with a clause exempting people 3 or 4 years above the minimum from statutory rape prosecutions. |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 1523/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Statutory rape is retarded. It's a flawed concept. | |||
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 471/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Care to elaborate on why? | |||
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 1524/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Sure. Consent is relative. Some people *aren't allowed* to consent. (those below the age of consent) That just kills some of the "freedom" in the land of the free and brave, right? |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 5274/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| When are foreigners going to learn what exactly our freedom is? Freedom does not mean you can do WHATEVER you want. Besides, the young children have the *freedom* to be safe from older sickos who would trick them into sexual acts at such a young age as they don't know any better. | |||
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 1525/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by LegionYou guys should make a new word for *your* freedom then, just like the word jingoist was created. But that's besides the point. Originally posted by LegionThat's not freedom. That's a "right". (more like an obligation) It's a "right" that they *have* to accept. It doesn't matter if they like it or not. Originally posted by LegionHow *exactly* do you know that? |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 5275/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| "You guys should make a new word for *your* freedom then, just like the word jingoist was created. But that's besides the point." Not necessary. Freedom can mean many things to different people. To us, it means freedom to hold religious beliefs without being persecuted for them, the same with voicing opinions against our government and so on and so forth. It doesn't mean chaos and anarchy. "That's not freedom. That's a "right". (more like an obligation) It's a "right" that they *have* to accept. It doesn't matter if they like it or not." Not every child in the world has this FREEDOM to have rights. Let's not play the semantic game here. "How *exactly* do you know that?" Um, because I'm 23 years old and I've seen a bit of how the world works. Believe it or not, it does happen. A lot. How do you think child molestation of family members happens for years without anyone knowing? It's because the child doesn't know any better and trusts their mom/dad/uncle etc. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 116/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| Are you encouraging pedophiles? I used to know one, he convinced pre and barely pubescent girls to mess around with him, he said they liked it. Consenting or not, liked it or not, that can have serious negative repercussions in the future. Persuasion, tricking, guilting, or even scare tactics can be passed off as "consent" if done correctly. I know how at least this one works because I got to know him and got inside his head. I've also known a few girls, as well as heard/read of accounts of girls that were (give or take) consenting, the ones that embraced it had a tendancy to become useless nymphomaniacs, and the ones that bottled and avoided it oftentimes had unhealthy sexual relationships in the future, or were just plain disturbed. I should probably note that I'm referring to roughly 13 and under. 14-17 is really more just a way to cut down on teen parents that haven't finished school and can't provide for the potential offspring yet. Maturity=/=Ability to nurture, at least not in today's society. If this were like 80 years ago I'd say differently. It's not written anywhere that I know of, but you don't get full rights until you're 21, and you get the majority of them when you're 18. Once you can accept that, things tend to make more sense, and go a little more smoothly for everyone. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 5277/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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knuck, seriously, you should drop the whole children fetish and start a necrophilia one like me. It's much more healthy for the mind.  |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 1526/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by Zer0wnedNot encouraging us. I'm saying we aren't evil sick fucks. Some of us aren't anyway. Originally posted by Zer0wnedJust like anything in life. Leg: that's sick D: |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 5278/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Don't judge me you sicko. At least they don't know what I'm doing. >D |
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