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theclaw Red Cheep-cheep Level: 24  Posts: 188/202 EXP: 69367 For next: 8758 Since: 03-28-04 From: USA Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 7 min. |
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| I'll put it very flatly. I'm fed up with this place, no less for Mr. Bush. Mandatory education for children when they're better working on farms. It'd save tons of oil powering those huge machines. No ban on public smoking. Most businesses don't allow it inside, but they simply hang out in front of the nearest gas station. Churches, religious television, etc. I'm a solid atheist, so it disgusts me. What am I to do? I've got no car, no income aside from government disability, no certificate of any kind from secondary or post-secondary education, etc. Any serious suggestions on leaving? |
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Snika Boo Level: 44  Posts: 647/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| It depends on how strongly you feel and how much you are willing to give up. It sounds like you need to get out of here fast. I suggest using the internet to find a country that best suits you, save up for a one way plane ticket, then just see what happens once you get there. Britian, perhaps? It'd escape America without steering to far of the culture (e.g. English language is used). Quite frankly, I'm not sure how you are going to escape religion though. America seems to be much more relaxed about religion than other countries. France, for example, has huge-ass churches almost everywhere. In the Middle East, they take time out of their everyday to stop and pray. I guess if you don't want anything to do with religion, you could just take great strives to ignore it. You can try to stick it out until you are in a better position to move, though. Smoking can be done in America outside of buildings most of the time. What goes up must come down. The same applies for gas prices. Bush is out of here in 2008, thankfully. |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76  Posts: 2307/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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| I guess you better earn some money and then leave. If you do leave then I dont know how better you'd do with not much to start off with in another country. Right now it's all good if you at least have the basics to live here plus money to start over somewhere else. Yeah, some places are even more religous than here. I haven't been to any other country so I couldn't suggest anything. |
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Havoks Red Koopa Level: 19  Posts: 113/121 EXP: 32533 For next: 3244 Since: 03-15-04 From: Toronto Canada Since last post: 27 days Last activity: 26 days |
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| you want to leave a country thats paying you for being disabled and being a dropout? | |||
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Snika Boo Level: 44 Posts: 652/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by Havoks Actually, Havoks has a good point. I don't think you'd be able to get that in other countries. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 463/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Depends how open their welfare systems are to non-residents and non-citizens. Most first world nations have far better developed welfare systems than the US though. And Snika, the US is not more relaxed about religion than most other countries. even france, with its big old churches, tends to ignore religion far more than America. The US is a remarkably religious country among western nations. Um, you'd better look into visas, residency laws, immigration laws, and so forth - you can't just *go* to another country and stay there. That's called being an illegal immigrant and just because you're American doesn't mean you can't be one. (edited by Arwon on 09-12-05 09:40 PM) |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17  Posts: 95/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Originally posted by Havoks No secondary education. Bit of a difference. It may sound like I'm kidding, but I'm not; go to Canada. It's like America, just with different bullshit (and less? I dunno, but no country is without bullshit), and it's cold. But you'll probably have to get a job or something, or see if Canada has some government disability plan. But even more seriously, you piss me off. I'm no patriot myself, but man: #1- Turn off the fucking news, politics are depressing #2- Why do you want indoor smoking? So you can piss off the squares? You know that has serious effects on the health of the employees, don't you? #3- People are stupid enough, you have any idea how much worse it'll be when they never go to school? The crime that'll come of it? #4- Why are you bitching about churches and religious television? I've been an atheist since I was 9, doesn't bother me any, I just learn how to avoid them. And I agree with Snika, good luck on dodging it with a change of location. Originally posted by Snika At first I thought you were full of crap, but then I looked at some inflation-adjusted charts, and it's basically the 1980 energy crisis (Am I the only one who really hates the word "crisis" now? I blame California) all over again. http://www.chartoftheday.com/20030827.gif , That's one hell of a jump since the chart left off, though. |
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SamuraiX Paratroopa Level: 19 Posts: 23/140 EXP: 32602 For next: 3175 Since: 10-11-04 From: ^___^ Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Are you good at anything? Unless you have savings, I would suggest forgetting this whimsical dream of yours. I am not kidding, you have to live off something, and have a positive income. Unless...you move to Antarctica. | |||
Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 2366/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Any idea on where you want to go?  Canada is real friendly.. they pity us I think.  I'd say, look up some options you're leaning towards, and figure out which one's policies best help you. Do some research. Get some sort of income so you can save, this will certainly cost money. That's a good start, I think. |
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Havoks Red Koopa Level: 19 Posts: 115/121 EXP: 32533 For next: 3244 Since: 03-15-04 From: Toronto Canada Since last post: 27 days Last activity: 26 days |
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Originally posted by Zer0wnedOriginally posted by Havoks Secondary education is synonymous to highschool education. Post-secondary education would then mean after-highschool education, i.e. college or university or something similar. No difference. |
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Cruel Justice XD Level: 55  Posts: 1233/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| It would be kinda nice to move to Mexico. You'll be rich as hell over there but you'd need to watch your back for kidnappers, thieves, and crazy people. | |||
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76 Posts: 2311/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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Move to a nice place of Mexico  but then again you might want to learn spanish . Canada could be your best bet if you're really serious about it. You need to do your own research to see if you want to do this. All that work of finding somewhere to go would be too much for me..but that's me. You'll learn a lot just finding out about different countries, upside.(edited by Bella on 09-12-05 11:10 PM) |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 3624/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by theclaw So you're leaving the country in part because some areas have banned smoking in businesses. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 98/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Originally posted by HavoksOriginally posted by Zer0wnedOriginally posted by Havoks Yup, I'm gonna kill all my old teachers. They told me secondary was college, and post secondary was graduate/postgraduate schooling. Goddamned Stockton public education... |
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 2370/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Where in America do they call high school secondary school? That's a new term for me. |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76 Posts: 2320/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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I thought secondary was college too they told us that stuff over and over  . Plus, if you wanted post-secondary education..must be liars  Not every one wants to die from second hand smoke and smelling it all the time.. |
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Snika Boo Level: 44 Posts: 661/916 EXP: 600678 For next: 10607 Since: 07-21-04 From: Freezing Cold Alaska! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| Yeah, it really bothers me when I am enjoying the fresh air and accidentally huff in someone's cigarette smoke. Luckily, its not that big of a problem over here. | |||
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Havoks Red Koopa Level: 19 Posts: 116/121 EXP: 32533 For next: 3244 Since: 03-15-04 From: Toronto Canada Since last post: 27 days Last activity: 26 days |
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| your schools are stuuuuupid oh wow wikipedia has an entry on secondary education http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_education i searched because i thought maybe i was wrong since im canadian and albeit they say College can also refer to secondary schools, or to the first stage of secondary schooling, much like middle school but thats stupid so your schools are still stuuuuupid "Secondary education in various countries" United States: high school (usually grades 9-12 or 10-12 also termed senior high school); junior high school (6-8 or 6-9, or other variations) and middle school (6-8, 7-8, or 5-8) are sometimes considered secondary education. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 5264/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Move to Sudan. Let me know how it goes. | |||
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 465/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| University is tertiary education. |
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