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Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 1912/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Well it's like that with lots of things now, isn't it? You hear of doctors prescribing antibiotics for a common cold just to make the patient happy that they have medicine.. people are overdiagnosed because it's easier to tell them they have a problem. It's like an excuse. Rather sad, really... dramatizing things that way. I understand not everyone is like that though. Don't consider this a flame to those of you here with Autism. |
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Bio Buster Beetle Level: 27  Posts: 241/458 EXP: 107144 For next: 9015 Since: 07-06-05 From: a laboratory somewhere... Waiting to be completed Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| there seem to be more autist than me on the board, there also Amiuss that I know who got the Asperger Syndrom, but he didn't post many time,he only do 12 post and most of them is in a battle with me in sim-battle (edited by Bio on 08-25-05 09:47 PM) |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 3160/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Danielle What's worse is ADD (Attention Definite Disorder). When I grew up during Elementary School, basically all of my friends supposedly had ADD and had to take medication for it. It hardly seemed to effect them, at all. But I guess that's for another topic ... I will be honest, I didn't really know about Autism until maybe a year and a half ago. My friend told me about it, and we watched that one movie with Tom Cruise and the actor who played Ben Stiller's dad in Meet the Fockers (sorry, can't remember the name). So I got to see how extreme autism could get (on a side note that movie is incredible). I'm surprised to see so many people here who have this, but it really does seem to effect others in different ways. I wouldn't look at autism as a bad thing, it would kind of seem like a gift to -some- extent, but really I could see why those who have it, don't want it. So I guess judging by those who have it here and have shared their opinions, autism just effects people in many different ways. |
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 1944/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by XeolordOriginally posted by Danielle You mean Attention Deficit Disorder?  And yes, another example of what I mean. People believe that by putting an active, hyper child on ritalin, it will help them because they must have ADD. Not true. Which leads to the many cases of overdiagnosing today. |
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Wlokos Red Paratroopa Level: 22 Posts: 171/176 EXP: 54880 For next: 3470 Since: 04-29-04 Since last post: 11 days Last activity: 10 days |
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| My friend's brother is severly autistic. And I mean really severe. Like, to the point of severe mental handicapping, he can't talk. It's sad  . |
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Schwa Green Birdo The Embodyment of Good, infused with the Living Assets "Alpha Psibeam!" (echo effects) Level: 66  Posts: 1887/2214 EXP: 2457091 For next: 4760 Since: 04-25-04 From: Spanaway, WA Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 13 hours |
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Thanks, Grey.  Okay, Seph, I'm terribly sorry but I'm gonna have to stun you with this one... Having high-functioning Autism or Aspurger's, like you say you have, is LOADS better than not having it. Full blown Autism isn't really better, because you're locked in your own mind for all eternity and that's not really a benefit...   But if you've got high-functioning Autism, or if you are an Aspie (like ME ^,^), it is loads better, for this one reason: You're a master of two worlds. Listen, Seph... You are living in two planes of existance! You and I have the mind of a normal person, yet we can see the word through the eyes of an Autistic. THAT, my friend, is in reality, mastering 2 worlds.Catch: We've got life a bit harder, especially when compared to "normal" people, because we are "partially locked", let's say... but Autism, whether full-blown or high-functioning, makes a person brilliant in some way, because with Autism comes some kind of talent, most of the time. For me, it's writing and computer skills. I'm willing to bet it all that you've got some kind of awesome talent... I know for a fact you do, judging by your post style. Number two: It is a SOCIAL impairment, nothing more. This is ALSO a good thing in some ways. Take me for example. I've spent my entire life up until 10th Grade in self-contained SpEd classrooms. What kinds of things did they teach me, ya think? They touched up on academic issues only very minimally. Academically I was already smarter than any of my teachers. What the teachers focused on 95% those years were social skills, even basic ones such as "how to make friends" or "what is respect", or crud like that... And did I understand any of it? You can bet not! Not a single bit! And I was an 8th Grader, for Christ sake! But how is that a good thing? I'll tell you... They spent extra time on that with me, so when I finally got it, I got it GOOD. Now I'm the other extreme; so social they can't get me to stop. You always have to find the silver lining, Seph. No matter what you're doing, the silver lining is there. You're right when you say Autistics didn't ask for what they have, but in reality I would choose this path over any other. From birth, let's say I have traded parts of myself for different parts. I've determined that the benefits outweigh the negatives, though some quirks like hypersensitive skin and inability to handle noise and schedule changes, DO get annoying... but trials teach us, and thanks to these trials, I have a generally higher level of insight then without them. To Wlokos: Your friend's brother CAN talk, he just chooses not to. Some Autistics have a mental retardation as well, but only in rare cases (Fragile X Syndrome). Find something he can relate to you with and you may be able to achieve some level of communication with him. I worked 1 on 1 with a Fully Autistic high-schooler who didn't talk... I knew him for an entire semester, and one day he finally said "Sure". But nothing else, ever. They can talk, but they just live inside their own heads and I believe the world may be too fast-paced for them to choose not to withdraw. Back to Seph: I had no idea you were an Aspie, but it makes sense now... Since I am as well, that makes you and I brothers. I respect you for that, pal. |
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Bio Buster Beetle Level: 27 Posts: 255/458 EXP: 107144 For next: 9015 Since: 07-06-05 From: a laboratory somewhere... Waiting to be completed Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| There also the fact that Asperger choose a 'skill' and heavy devlop him, making them don't know about car and know 100% of thing about CPU(This is a example) there also the social instinct that force normal people to think like the other,Asperger don't have It, but, I think Its more an advantage since our mind are free from the other. Example: I'm a canadian but I don't like hockey (edited by Bio on 08-27-05 07:39 AM) |
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firemaker Level: 26  Posts: 228/247 EXP: 94178 For next: 8097 Since: 03-23-04 From: UK berkshire Since last post: 17 days Last activity: 11 days |
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| Wow! I never knew thhat many poeple had apserger's syndrome. I find thatt what Bio said seems to ring true with me. I could tell you exactly how a car works (honestly i could, from the ECU to thhe pistons.) But i still have no clue about how baseball works. Most times of don't care what other poeple think which is another good thing about aspergers syndrome. Schwa you say that it is social impairment right? Well I don't competely agree because after a while I kinda taught myself about all the 'social' pieces of life. Generally we people with asperger's syndrome tend to like complex logical things eg. programming, rom hacking etc. anyway I see my asperger's syndrome as a gift. | |||
Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 3468/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| You know, I didn't hear of what Autism/Aspergers was till Schwa's original thread. I'm still adamant about the whole, if its in your mind, you control it thing. Still, I'm ignorant for once! |
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 1982/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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More and more people posting here saying they're autistic.. I didn't know it was so common.  A positive outlook is good. So many of you consider this a gift, and that's an amazing outlook to have with something that I assumed was frowned on by those who have it. Just goes to sort of support what Dracoon said.. you can control it to a great extent.  Seph, where did you go? |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 2149/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| eh... I sort of feel like I might have asperger's syndrome in a mild form, but self diagnosis is sketchy. I tend to be antisocial and avoid people I feel unconfortable around (eg. people I barely knew in high school and didn't like in the first place), unless I absolutely have to talk to them. Most of the aspie symptoms affect me in some way, but I just deal with it and overcome them. But then again I used to have this one kid as a student, and his father said he had Asperger's syndrome one day to me. That kid was annoying as hell... asking inane questions about everything. everything. But he doesn't do it like an ADD type, he doesn't seem like he's trying to annoy you. He also never payed attention to what he was supposed to. Nice kid but sure has a hard time relating to people. I don't know if he was correctly diagnosed or not. Maybe further down the autism rainbow (spectrum) than they thought. |
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Bit-Blade Pixel Artist Level: 34  Posts: 338/445 EXP: 229264 For next: 24387 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Sometimes I'm not sure at all how you would describe these things. The spectrum nature of it kind of throws things into a chaos... who's to say who has it or if it is just a personality mindset? I was diagnosed with ADD at a young age. As a child I was pretty antisocial. I was always more interested in videogames or my own imaginatoin than the world around me... in a way I guess you could say I just lived out my world as if no one else truly existed other than me. One bad problem I have is a terrible memory. It almost feels like my childhood happened to someone else because I can barely remember, and almost never clearly. Like MathOnNapkins, I think it's possible I might have a mild case of it. Growing up I was never really considered normal. However, I choose not to let this affect me. I will continue to think of myself as ordinary untill the day I die. In my eyes, I am the only sane and normal person out there. Everyone is different from me, but that's just a fact of life... I beleive that to each individual, they are (or should be) normal to themselves because that is how they perceive their world. Being unable to perceive the world in any other way, all other perceptions must be considered 'strange' if they are not your own. Not that strange is 'bad' thing in this sense. Anyway, the main point I wanted to make here is that you shouldn't single yourself out with autism. A large part of this is in how YOU choose to live your life, or see yourself. The victim does not need to victimize theirself. I have a very bad habit of being overly verbose... or of going off on tangents/unnecesarilly belaboring points. The gift of gab, in written form. This was/is a tough subject to talk about coherantly as I would have liked... |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 441/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Schwa I wonder, Must you always have Aspie brothers? Have you ever had an Aspie sister? |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 3061/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Apparently Aspurger's Syndrome is more common in males than females. That said, it's not IMPOSSIBLE for a girl to get it. | |||
Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 432/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| Asperger's is often described as an extreme of the "male" form of intellegence - systems, logic, but by contrast, very little intuition, understanding of context, and so forth. I understand that it's mostly a male syndrome and that in females it is far less pronounced, perhaps because of different socialisation. So yes, brothers mostly. Also, I wonder why this board has so many "Aspies". Statistical fluke or is it something about the ostensible topic matter of the board (videogame modding, ROM hacking or whatever? I've never really figured out precisely what this boad was formed for...). |
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 2006/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| It's a community for people with the same interests as Acmlm, no? ROM hacking the biggest, I'm sure. And it may tie in with why there are a large number of "Aspies" here.. like many have said, they have one unique talent, something they immediately grasp and can be very good at it. Hacking and other computer skills is probably a "popular" choice. Just my guess. |
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Bio Buster Beetle Level: 27 Posts: 274/458 EXP: 107144 For next: 9015 Since: 07-06-05 From: a laboratory somewhere... Waiting to be completed Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Its maybe related to their creativity and logic, cause my skill is biochimy and I do roms hacking, but I not able to create program and all these thing | |||
Ares Blue Octorok Level: 12 Posts: 33/47 EXP: 7857 For next: 64 Since: 03-17-04 From: Uh...Olympus....yes, that will do..... Since last post: 12 days Last activity: 7 days |
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| Auspie check, right over here. One thing about me is that I have an extrodinarily developed sense of self-control. I still bump around the land of the social, but I can stop myself from raging. repression to the um-teenth milion degree. Basically when I was a kid if I got irate when someone was messing with me, people would become incensed over it, which would make anything that was going on worse. At school with the other kids and at home with older brothers with indifferent parents equals 24/7. And this was way before Auspie hit the med books by the way, so I was just a piece of genetic refuse compared to the two older strapping boys that were in the fam. That kind of environment, in combination with some of the other aspects of autism (you guys now what I'm talking about) especially when your younger, and the hits kept on coming. And apparently it was all my fault, 'least that's what they told me. Eventually this will either cause someone to grow up into an angst-ridden person with explosive rage (the thread starter, I believe) or they (very rarely) grow into me: a person with a looooooonnnnnnnggggg fuse. |
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Seph2k4 Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 597/619 EXP: 376086 For next: 28685 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| Well, I suppose that's true... having autism has it's strengths and it's weaknesses, though I must say I was (at least partially) mis-informed about autistic psychiatrical effects. My older brother informed me of having it long before I knew it... and he also said that people who are affected by autism tend to have emotional/anger/control issues, which, from my standpoint, is true, and I don't know whether he was actually right about what he said, or if it's just because I take Acutaine (?) which my doctor said CAN cause such behavior, or even both, but I bet he was right. I was never able to take abuse, in any way, shape, or form, too well. I remember acting up in front of the whole class several years back (quite a few years, actually) whenever some one would do something to piss me off, like getting me in trouble, harrassing me and getting away with it, etc, and I must say it must've been embarrasing for the whole rest of the class to bear witness to, but I just couldn't help myself. It's more or less the same way now; I don't act up, anymore, at least not in that way, but not only do I tend to take these kinds of things more seriously than I should have, but that thought sticks in my head seemingly for eternity and I many times think back to what happened and feel the immense anger in ensued flowing within me, even if it WAS soooooooooo long ago when it happened. When damage is done, it's done permanently. That's how it is with me. That is problably the biggest issue I have with having autism, but you're definitely right. It's not like it doesn't come without a saving grace, or whatnot. As a matter of fact, I would much rather be the emotional-autistic than the impaired type of autistic where they can't talk and may even be mentally retarded (though I AM partially "impared" at that front; I CAN talk, but I habitually stutter while doing so at times). There are MUCH worse things I could've been born with than autism. | |||
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 2015/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Seph2k4 Accutane... I wouldn't count on what your doctor said there. That research isn't very well backed, because one major thing was overlooked: People on accutane, for the most part, have severe acne that could already affect them mentally. I'm sure for most cases, it does. Then these people go on this medicine, and their mental behavior is taken note of, and the medicine gets the bad name. I'm almost positive this is the case, but.. of course I can't be certain. |
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