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Posted on 08-16-05 08:24 AM Link | Quote
What do you THINK happen after life, when we die. Me, I don't believe in the soul concept. I think that when we die, we die. Kinda like a nap, but forever.
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Posted on 08-16-05 12:08 PM Link | Quote
Hmm, im still not 100 percent sure on where I stand on that.

Logic tells me that i'll just die and that'll be the end of that, but sometimes it seems like there has to be something else?

I think it be nice for reincarnation to be real.

I dont believe in a "paradise" after death, even if there is a heaven. I mean would it really be paradise if you spent an eternity living in pleasure? Seems kinda shallow to me.
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Posted on 08-16-05 03:35 PM Link | Quote
It's nice to think there's an afterlife, but something inside tells me it's just Santa Claus all over again. Something way too good to be true, that is a human hope, but probably is a total lie meant to keep people happy for a short while. It's a well known human folly to search for immortality, and yet people still clutch to the idea of an afterlife as though it was any better an idea or expectation. Even if you're religious I would hope you would be at least a little bit skeptical of the idea.
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Posted on 08-16-05 08:07 PM Link | Quote
I definetaly believe that something happens after we die. I just can't picture that our soul goes away, and becomes nothing. Most likely, what happens is reincarnation. Though, I do not know into what, or to where, I'll be reincarnated, and what decides where I'll go, or what I'll become. Or if it's just randomly decided.

I'm still open to the possibillity that there might be nothing after death. I just have a hard time picturing me doing nothing, feeling nothing, and remembering nothing, and just.. being nothing.

I think it all sounds pretty farfetched anyway. I mean.. what is it that makes this "lump" of flesh and bones live anyway?
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Posted on 08-17-05 12:22 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by LizardKing

I think it all sounds pretty farfetched anyway. I mean.. what is it that makes this "lump" of flesh and bones live anyway?


Well scientifically your brain does give you hopes, desires, everything and its right there and we know alot about it. It is what essentially gives us not only life but a personality. A physical soul perhaps, developed over our time on earth.

We are all unique as individuals but does that really mean we have a soul? Some everlasting being that exists in the universe with no real physical matter..That seems more far fetched. The idea pretty much denys all we know scientifically. Still it would be nice if it was true.

Of course if you just die and nothing happens your not going to be worried about much.

Then theres ghosts which some people believe has to do with space/time.




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Posted on 08-17-05 02:50 AM Link | Quote
I just have a hard time picturing me doing nothing, feeling nothing, and remembering nothing, and just.. being nothing.

So um.... think back to before you were born. It was like that.
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Posted on 08-17-05 07:03 AM Link | Quote
Well, I probably shouldn't write this while under the influence of fantasy novels... But whatever.

I believe that when you die, what happens to you is decided based upon what you believe will happen. Really, truly believe. Example: Very religious person believes s/he will never be pious enough and will be punished for eternity in (insert where you get damned to here). Maybe that's not what they really believe. Perhaps deep down inside they're skeptical of their whole religion, and believe that there isn't anything at all after death, just nothingness. However, whenever this thought emerges in their conscious minds, they think that this kind of thing is exactly the reason they're going to hell. I believe that such a person would have nothing after they die, because that is their true belief, and the last thought is merely a rationalization for what they think they believe.

The problem here for me is, that I'm so analytical about other people that I try to use the same reasoning towards myself. This doesn't work, because I end up believing that I end up believing that I end up believing... Ad infinitum. The truth is that I don't know what I believe deep down inside, and I'm too busy trying to find out what it is to see it in the first place.

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Posted on 08-17-05 07:50 AM Link | Quote
I know something happens after we die.

Either A: T here's an afterlife... B: we're reincarnated as something else... or C: We decompose and that's the end of that. We won't know until we die, and by then it's too late to do anything with that knowledge.

Honestly, I've seen quite a bit that makes my typically-analytical mind doubt there being nothing after death. And I feel that if there is anything after death, it's another life - no heaven, no hell, just more time on Earth. But it seems more likely to me that there's nothing. And that is the future I have accepted; an end to all pain and pleasure, to all worldly needs and desires, to all rational and irrational thought.
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Posted on 08-17-05 08:43 AM Link | Quote
Does it matter?

Just be a good person, regardless of their being an after-life.
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Posted on 08-17-05 08:51 AM Link | Quote
I believe there *IS* something after life. I can't just see us closing our eyes and then vanishing from existence... it just sounds creepy. Either:

- The whole reincarnation aspect comes into play;
- We're locked into an eternal dream state;
- We're stuck in a nap-like state;
- We repeat our life over and over again ala Groundhog Day but never realize it.

I like the last one, personally.
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Posted on 08-17-05 09:12 AM Link | Quote
I have a very hard time believing there is something after we die. I also believe that it's something people say just to make themselves feel more comfortable about dying. Most can't handle the fact that once we're gone, we're gone and that's the end. People need to have an assurance that they will carry on forever. Think of it as a security blanket.

I, for one, actually like it this way. Thoughts of an afterlife don't really sound too appealing anyway. When life is over, it's over and that's the way it should be.
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Posted on 08-17-05 10:11 AM Link | Quote
I think our imaginations go wild with the subject of afterlife. If you look at how harsh reality usually is, then legion is probably right.


One arguement I will make though, alot of people report when they had near death experiences they saw "white light" and "voices". Even people who were not previously religious.




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Posted on 08-17-05 10:19 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Shadow Red

One arguement I will make though, alot of people report when they had near death experiences they saw "white light" and "voices". Even people who were not previously religious.



I think this can be associated with what the brain goes through when one goes through something like that.
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Posted on 08-17-05 10:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
I just have a hard time picturing me doing nothing, feeling nothing, and remembering nothing, and just.. being nothing.

So um.... think back to before you were born. It was like that.

That's pretty much how I see it. Thinking about death, it's just emptyness. Not to say I don't believe in life after death, coming back to earth as another person or pet or something, all those well-known theories.. but I don't really have trust in them. Death is dark and empty and nothing, the way I see it.
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Posted on 08-17-05 12:16 PM Link | Quote
My theory Is (If you don't bury yourself) that when we die we become...air and i'm not talking about spirit thing,Its beacuse cell composition Is CHON one carbon,one hydrogen, one oxygen and one nitrium,Air Is composed by the same thing but not fused together
Note:The spirit myth come from that thing beacuse Hydrogen Is Flammable when traveler go near of a tomb with a torch creating a flame wave to the tomb,The catholic religion was knowing that so they make the 'cerceuil' hermetiquely close
but becease of that we take the eternity as a dead CHON this why anyone should ask for a hole in their 'cerceuil'
Note2:sorry for my bad english
Note3:When I will be a scientifist I am gonna test this by recreating a cell with the CHON(not DNA)of a dead, If this is the same person ,the mistery of death will be discovered


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Posted on 08-18-05 05:21 AM Link | Quote
As much as I like to think that I'll be having sex with super models, playing videogames, watching Scarface/Star Wars and eating Pop-Tarts for all eternity, with Moby playing concerts for me whenever I wanted, I know that will never happen. A man can dream, though. A man can dream.
Also, Bio, I don't know what the hell you just said.
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Posted on 08-19-05 11:54 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cornellius
What do you THINK happen after life, when we die.


I THINK I´ll come to heaven but I can ALSO come to hell. I´m not sure. It depends on how nice I´ve been.

It´s what I believe in so no big deal about that.
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Posted on 08-19-05 03:00 PM Link | Quote
When I was eight years old my second grade teacher had the students write poems about something that made them happy. I wrote the following poem, and when I tried to turn it in, my parents were called, and I was subsequently sent to a psychiatrist.

It was really dark, but with one light.
It was a creepy and cheap flourescent light.
It was broken and kept flickering.

"Well?" a voice that made me smile.
"What did you learn?" it asked.
I couldn't come up with an answer at first.

He was beyond the light, I couldn't see his face.
But I knew who he was, and why I was here.
He was behind a desk with a chair, with a television off to the side.

The channel was turned to snow.

I sat down and told him my story of my life.
He smiled like parent to child.
That's what it's like to die.
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Posted on 08-20-05 02:35 PM Link | Quote
I think there is something like a rebirth and you will see your whole life again after dying.
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Posted on 08-21-05 06:41 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ice Man
I think there is something like a rebirth and you will see your whole life again after dying.


I think it would be intesting to see your life when you were like really young. Besides that, who would want to see their teen years and after? You remember most of that stuff, plus some of it really sucks.


Anyone ever walked into a house you never been in but you knew all the rooms, compartments, closets, etc? It happend to me one time. When I was visiting my relatives in Pennsylvannia and I was in a friend of my cousins house. I knew the house like the back of my hand and even the cubbyhole in the old basement.

Really freaky, It was a like memory I didnt have.

Some people say this type of thing is a "memory" of a former life. Still it seems kinda hard to believe even after it happend to me.



(edited by Shadow Red on 08-20-05 09:42 PM)
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