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Zerodius

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Posted on 08-09-05 10:08 AM Link | Quote
Actually, I did not find the boss fights easy.

Without the "cheesy bounce" trick and the level loop trick, the bosses are hard enough.

The real final boss and the regular final boss have OK difficulty; they're hard enough to challenge but not enough to annoy (the real final boss, hardest boss in all of Mario history? For a fangame, yes... for official games, I still think that Giga Bowser and Electric Manta Ray get the cake... altought I must say that this boss impress me, a lot!)

My complaint is about the first extra boss; the one that you must hit from under unstead of jumping on him. This boss COULD be challenging... but there are a few flaws in his fight pattern. Basically, he's harmless as long as you stay on the ground and that's my complaint.

My complaints about the other bosses were mainly nitpicking. After all, as scaringly effective as they are, it takes a while to master the level loop and cheesy bounce techniques since both the regular final boss and real final boss counter them effectively (the first by his great speed and weird movement pattern, the second by throwing stuff at you from the top of the screen).

For the real final boss, my suggestion would be to add real walls (not harmful ones) and that, like normal, fire walls would appear when the boss's HP is low thus restraining the fight size... that or make the fire wall in the very beginning but make the boss use an extra attack on top of the stuff he does normally when his HP is low... altought it wouldn't be really necessary. The real final boss is hard enough already.

Noticed a slight bug during the regular final boss fight: if you strike the boss when he's on the very bottom of the screen when he's about to use his last flying pattern attack plan, the two enemies on the ground will bump into each others and end up walking in the same direction, making this part of the fight a LOT easier. Minor bug... but this is a hint for you to fix the game... and for those to exploit until it is fixed!

Now, concerning the actual levels... no complaint, really, it's perfect. Adjustable enemy AI would be good (since the boss AI for level 40 seems to be better than the enemy AI in multiplayer)... but if it's only the odds that are stacked more against the player and that there's no AI levels in fact, then special AI behavious (such as auto respawn or something like that) would be fun.

A multiplayer game with endlessly respawning computer opponents could be fun in my opinion...

Anyway, I'm really happy to see that you're taking into account my suggestions and comments and that you take the time to comment those that you refuse as well.

Really, I can't wait for the next release!

NOTE: I will maybe sound a bit dumb... but while I can defeat the real final boss quite easily now, I still cannot defeat the real, real, REAL final boss, the one that isn't really a boss but still is considered as one (in short, the Final Challenge).

I wonder if beating that real, real, REAL final boss award you an extra-special ending (the cutscene that you should have been rewarded it at the end when you beat the real final boss but don't get... altought the final dialogue is funny and that the feeling of beating a hard boss is satisfying enough already)... or maybe extra multiplayer and single player options (like extra cheats or more customisation, maybe?).

Anyway...

Have a nice day!

PS. As already stated, your game R0X0R.
Peardian

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Posted on 08-09-05 08:42 PM Link | Quote
All right! It's up! Downloading... downloaded! Unzipping... unzipped! Opening... it works! Too bad it's too early to play against anyone. This is a good game.
Riku

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Posted on 08-10-05 07:27 AM Link | Quote
In case anyone interested I am holding a tournament of eight.

http://raccoonman.ra.funpic.org/thread.php?id=20
Peardian

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Posted on 08-10-05 06:34 PM Link | Quote
Cool! Can I sign up? What time is it?

The custom skin thing sounds cool. I know what I'll make... sorta.
fabio

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Posted on 08-10-05 07:06 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
Cool! Can I sign up? What time is it?

The custom skin thing sounds cool. I know what I'll make... sorta.


You got to be a member though.
me99909

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Posted on 08-10-05 07:50 PM Link | Quote
sounds good, but I can't play it. It freezes at the Loading.... screen and never seems to go on.
Peardian

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Posted on 08-10-05 10:35 PM Link | Quote
That's what I thought, too. Don't worry, it slows down just before loading completely.
Synneth Relmn

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Posted on 08-11-05 01:00 AM Link | Quote
Only on XP systems, it seems. Windows 98 has no trouble loading it. I tested the problem, and it's the music. For some reason, Windows XP stalls when loading the music. There was gonna an option for disabling music and sound so that XP users wouldn't have to load the music, but with that came a weird speed decrease that would screw up netplay. I don't know the cause of it, it seems to just be a problem with the multimedia engine I'm using. I'll try to find a way to make netplay work with that, though.

The menus are getting kind of outdated, and I'd have no place to put where to select a custom skin, so I think I'm gonna redo the menus for the next version as well. And maybe those boss tweaks I talked about.

A tournament of eight? Might be tricky to set up, but alright. Some notes: If the server's full and somebody else tries to connect, the game won't even show up for them. Also, if you're in-game and somebody else joins or disconnects, the game will stop. In the future I may make it so that if somebody just leaves, their character dies and that's it. You'll also have to decide on one of two modes: Pure(original Nintendo rules) and Enhanced(with all the new stuff).

Anyway, I ain't signing up for a whole new forum just to join a tournament for my own damn game, so just put me the list, k? I'll only be able to do it if it's before Sunday, or after next Thursday, though.


(edited by Synneth Relmn on 08-10-05 04:05 PM)
(edited by Synneth Relmn on 08-10-05 04:07 PM)
Magikoopa Myster

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Posted on 08-11-05 01:08 AM Link | Quote
Well, the game seems to only work on a different computer. I will sign up, but it'll have to be around 3 central time.
Peardian

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Posted on 08-11-05 01:29 AM Link | Quote
That's odd... is there a way to fix the music problem? I hope so...
Zerodius

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Posted on 08-11-05 04:07 AM Link | Quote
Well... I don't think so.

I'm thankful that the problem with Mario Bros. Online is that minor; with some fan games, one of the sound would crash thus making one sound effect keep on repeating endlessly while the game slow down to like, one frame per five seconds.

On my computer (which use Windows XP), the loading screen at the beginning is really slow and when the music loop, the game automatically pause for a second or two while the music is reloaded... but that's pretty minor considering the problems I had with other fan games...
Peardian

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Posted on 08-11-05 04:21 AM Link | Quote
So it only does that in XP? Then this game is better than I thought.

By the way, I'm at the construction site level.
fabio

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Posted on 08-11-05 04:22 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
So it only does that in XP? Then this game is better than I thought.

By the way, I'm at the construction site level.


Good thing I don't have XP. That's one of the reasons that I don't want a XP, not being able to play this game.

BTW, I'm in the wax cave.
Riku

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Posted on 08-11-05 06:37 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by fabio
Originally posted by Peardian
So it only does that in XP? Then this game is better than I thought.

By the way, I'm at the construction site level.


Good thing I don't have XP. That's one of the reasons that I don't want a XP, not being able to play this game.

BTW, I'm in the wax cave.

I am in the Library.
me99909

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Posted on 08-13-05 07:10 PM Link | Quote
Other then that small problem, the game is great .
Riku

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Posted on 08-13-05 09:38 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MarioMaster
In case anyone interested I am holding a tournament of eight.

http://raccoonman.ra.funpic.org/thread.php?id=20

Yeah, I forgot you had to register to join the online.....
fabio

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Posted on 08-14-05 02:15 AM Link | Quote
They don't really have to register there to enter the tournament MarioMaster. If anyone wants to enter, they have to PM you to put there name on the list on that board.
Riku

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Posted on 08-14-05 02:41 AM Link | Quote
The brackets are in! Please follow the link for the announcement.

http://raccoonman.ra.funpic.org/thread.php?id=20




(edited by MarioMaster on 08-13-05 05:41 PM)
fabio

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Posted on 08-14-05 02:50 AM Link | Quote
What the hell, where's your IP address? I don't see it there and you forgot to mention what time zone 4:00 is.
Riku

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Posted on 08-14-05 05:27 AM Link | Quote
My IP was in the third to the bottem post. I did forget the time-zone though.
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