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Red_Oxygen Red Paragoomba Level: 10 Posts: 44/53 EXP: 3830 For next: 584 Since: 07-27-05 Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 93 days |
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| Is there a way to make SNES assembly support C\C++ compilers by modifying its OS? Is it true that SNES doesn't have an operating system? (edited by Red_Oxygen on 07-28-05 09:22 PM) |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 2057/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| OS? Why would a programming language have an OS? ASM is 65c816, not an OS. OS's, as far as I know, have a GUI which ASM does not. I am starting to think you are either: a) Drunk and have no clue what you're talking about. b) Trying to use big words to make it sound like you know what your talking about. I have read that you said you know ASM, and now recently you are saying you hate it, and now you don't even know what it is pretty much  ...Sorry to sound flamey, but try using google or zophars for once  . |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 371/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Red_Oxygen No, it has no operating system. No, it has no API. No, C code would be too bulky for a system like the SNES. etc etc Do your homework for once instead of coming up with inane things on this forum. |
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Xkeeper 2.0 Hammer Brother Again... :P Level: 49  Posts: 644/1091 EXP: 880818 For next: 3065 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| No. SNES does NOT have an OS.  Where did you get that? |
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Red_Oxygen Red Paragoomba Level: 10 Posts: 45/53 EXP: 3830 For next: 584 Since: 07-27-05 Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 93 days |
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| yeah I think N64 or genesis was one of the first game systems to have an OS |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 2059/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| No they didn't. Operating Systems have a GUI (graphic user interface) which neither of these systems had. The closest I would think to a gaming system with a GUI is the PS1, PS2, and XBOX (maby GC, I'm not sure). You can start all of those consoles WITHOUT a game in them and you still see things on screen. So the answer to your original question is no, and no. |
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Ikuzou Cheep-cheep Level: 19  Posts: 153/181 EXP: 30977 For next: 4800 Since: 05-24-05 From: Japan Since last post: 64 days Last activity: 3 days |
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| Let's use the "Q&A For noobs" thread next time if you have a question. SNES is the best the way it is. If you don't like how it works, try hacking another type of game machine. It is a pretty old game machine anyway. Well we like the fact that it's retro. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 2083/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| Operating System is sort of loosely defined, however, an SNES will not run anything without a cartridge. That said, I'm sure it has some small ROM chip with boostrap instructions on how to start the machine up and get all the processors going. Almost any device will have that, however. PSX and PS2 have what I would refer to as a BIOS, since you don't really install or add software to expand it. NOt really an OS, per se. | |||
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53  Posts: 1019/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Please, PLEASE stop posting these things in SMW hacking, as they have nothing to do with SMW. You're going to HAVE to learn 65c816 ASM if you want to do any sort of SNES coding. Knowledge of C/C++ isn't really going to get you anywhere, unless you plan on making a utility of some sort.  |
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blackhole89 LOLSEALS Moderator of ROM hacking EmuNET IRC network admin Head GM of TwilightRO Level: 47  Posts: 827/971 EXP: 739208 For next: 26995 Since: 03-15-04 From: Dresden/Germany Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Keikonium No, operating systems don't neccessarily have a GUI (does DOS have one? ), or even any UI whatsoever (MS-DOS without the command shell still is an operating system, you know). In fact, operating systems are defined by making available some base API functions like console text output or (which, in fact, are most important) memory/paging management, binary image loading and probably multitasking aka TSS control. |
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Red_Oxygen Red Paragoomba Level: 10 Posts: 46/53 EXP: 3830 For next: 584 Since: 07-27-05 Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 93 days |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 Window is coded in C....smartguy |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68  Posts: 1908/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by Red_OxygenOriginally posted by BMF54123 Are you talking about Windows, the OS? If so, what the heck have it got to do with anything? Answer to the original question: No. You can't use C programs compiled to x86 ASM on the SNES, unless you make some sort of emulator, which would be too slow to be useful. There we go. End of thread. "I can only lock the thread. You're the one who has to avoid that it happens again." (edited by Smallhacker on 07-29-05 08:16 AM) |
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