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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 74/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Been spending a lot of time lately on my Zelda hack and have just finished a large part of my overworld. I've decided to take a few days off from editing and show you the picture (in the link) below so I can get some feedback from you all before i get back to it. http://www.angelfire.com/retro/hyrule/pics/forest.txt It started off as just a copy of the forest from my Dodongo's Gold demo but then i started moving things around and going nuts with the tile editing. Thought it came out great. As for the rest of my hack ive been thinking about trying something new and having a sort of Metroid Prime 2 design where you're able to get a lot of the items from just exploring and you then go on to taking on the dungeons. Also i this time intend on creating a Dark world but one that is on a less of a mirror world but more of its own world different to Hyrule. Also seeing as ive put Dodongo's Gold to rest I'm gonna need some ideas for a new title. Something actually relevant to the two worlds idea (reason for my temporary Zelda: Echoes title). |
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richyawyingtmv Koopa Level: 15 Posts: 23/116 EXP: 14829 For next: 1555 Since: 06-14-05 Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| http://www.angelfire.com/retro/hyrule/pics/forest.txt ? Its just a load of symbols  EDIT Ok ive got it now, i saved that link as a jpg file. And i must say, it looks pretty decent. My only complaint is that the house furthest to the north looks a bit awkward where it is - like its just been placed there randomly. But that shouldnt take much to fix. (edited by richyawyingtmv on 07-04-05 06:42 PM) |
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SePH Geldman Level: 33  Posts: 344/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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 Impressive use of custom tiles in there. Love the new custom houses designs! Hmmm.. nice stairs aswell lol... I really know why I liked your demo hack. This time around It looks even better. God damn fine looking. Fix the "small" bugs which aren't much for now and it'll be perfect. Keep up the good work  ----- Errr. edit: Actually what I described as bugs aren't really bugs. you'll just want to have some custom gfx changes to fix them... like the houses corners and so on.. here's an exemple:  You see I added some of these tiles just so that it collides in a better way with the rest. Similar to your wood styled houses. The red circles beeing the new corner tiles, more realistic... The green one is to have the door fixed. And the yellow one, the blue tiles are a walkable object. That's about it. I'm sure you'll figure it out easily or already have.. just my two cents (I know I'm damn too much perfectionnist...) (edited by SePH on 07-04-05 07:02 PM) |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 76/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| dude that looks quality. thanks for the advice. I was confused for a minute about your bugs statement but yeah new gfx is needed. At the moment im just sorta laying down the foundations for the whole map. I intend to get into the gfx editing just not right now. I'd already done a lot before i lost my hack so i was quite pissed off at the time. Im looking forward to playing your hack even more now. It looks spiffy. | |||
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SePH Geldman Level: 33 Posts: 347/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| Yeah no worries man, I'm sure what I'm seeing will get better each time you edit it again... you sure don't want to see my first attempts at editing this game lol... I can say what I'm seeing up there is hundreds of times better then what I had when I started.. Oh well found an old crappy backup on a cd... here's in exclusivity seph's fist attempt at hacking this game (You know you don't want to see these!): http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5527/ugly18on.png http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4291/tehugly24oj.png Hehe... you don't get good in two days... just in 2 years lol... Anyway, all I can hope is that you get it done someday |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 77/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I'm trying...hopefully someday i will. Damn that castle is massive....just one problem with that theres no ground entrance?!!! LOL Your stuff nowadays is definately better. (edited by NEONswift on 07-05-05 02:27 PM) (edited by NEONswift on 07-05-05 02:53 PM) (edited by NEONswift on 07-05-05 02:59 PM) (edited by NEONswift on 07-05-05 03:25 PM) |
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Dude Man Koopa Level: 18 Posts: 50/116 EXP: 29288 For next: 609 Since: 05-02-04 From: Wareham Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 7 hours |
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a pic from my first attempt at hackin Zelda 3 I now use this area for testing the dungeons I make. |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 78/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Thats a quality idea...everyone showing off their very first Zelda overworld edit. Seph how did you go about getting more space for those extra graphics you use. Or am i being stupid and not realising that the space is already there?? |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 2549/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Zelda: Reflections ... meh? It's looking good, and I can faintly remember the beginning of your demo (that did start in the forest I believe?) so it's good to hear you're kind of editing from there. I like the idea also, being able to explore a lot and having the world open to you at the start, doesn't seem like anyone else has really went into making a Z3 hack with such an idea yet. All looks good.  |
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SePH Geldman Level: 33 Posts: 348/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by NEONswiftYou ain't stupid.. there's simply no space for new graphics. If you want to say have new gfx in game, you have to overwrite the existing tilesets (Get rid of some stuff in order to have newer stuff.) Simple as that. I know it's stupid and it's one of the reasons why I hated gfx editing in this game. |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 79/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by SePHYeah i worked that out myself just today. I noticed that you had freed up a single block for a new graphic by simply removing the bottom stump of the doors. My wooden houses are looking better already now. I always assumed gfx editing was gonna piss me off but after tinkering with PSP a little Ive configured it to work well with the Z3 graphics. Hopefully a picture of the slightly revamped forest houses soon...Originally posted by NEONswiftYou ain't stupid.. there's simply no space for new graphics. If you want to say have new gfx in game, you have to overwrite the existing tilesets (Get rid of some stuff in order to have newer stuff.) Simple as that. I know it's stupid and it's one of the reasons why I hated gfx editing in this game. |
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SePH Geldman Level: 33 Posts: 350/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| Well thinking of it now.. there's actually a problem that might occur with the bottom of the houses door gfx.. when entering those, the gfx of the door will suddently change to the original gfx. Because the game loads the door opening other gfx.. so if you are going to change that say gfx for the doors, all the doors must have that same gfx. Eh... anyway that's a thing you shouldn't even care for now.. Like if I were you I would probably concentrate on finishing the overworlds as gfx comes in generally when everything is finished. |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 80/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by SePHMy whole intended break for a few days never actually happened. you replied and i got straight back into improving that area. GFX is something thar comes later but its a great way to seperate doing the same thing like the overworld and getting bored. I fixed those houses they look better now. I'll show the improvements later. At work at the moment so my hack isnt at hand. The one thing about zelda hacking thar amuses me is that according to you Seph i got you into hacking Z3 due to my demo...then i stopped hacking and now i find myself back into it again due to your hack which has forced me to push my quality up. Circle of life i guess. (edited by NEONswift on 07-06-05 07:52 AM) |
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SePH Geldman Level: 33 Posts: 352/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| You really got back into hacking due to my hack? I'm honored of that. I always considered your demo a brillant piece of work when it got released. And then we never heard of you again, In fact I even though you were gone for good. Demos are evil you know. They tend to take too much time for nothing and are likely to make you abandon your work. In your case an hd fKitten Yiffer is another thing but who knows what could hapenned. Can't wait to see those improvements aswell. | |||
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 81/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I'd have to agree...i noticed the amount of work i did on ZDG went down right after my demo. I intend to do more gfx editing though im confused about a lot of the graphics.. some seem to be repeated despite them being in the same gfx set and also using the same colours and block types. You think Euclid has any ASM / HEX details for the layer 3 HUD lieing around...im gona want to start one a new one soon. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2569/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Yeah, seriously I agree with SePH. Insteand of demo's, just throw a handful of pictures at us, or give us updates. That way you might not lose motivation after releasing a demo or whatnot. I've never really enjoyed demo's anyways. And most of the time they end up being disappointing. Why? People usually don't finish their hacks afterwards (no offense NEON, trust me I've seen a lot of others do it too). Gah, DxEdge should have finished Megaman Vortex.  |
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SePH Geldman Level: 33 Posts: 353/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by XeomegaExactly what I'm doing.. If I wouldn't show anything, for my part I think I would have cancelled the hack by then.. that's the way I work, posting updates help me focus even more to finish it once and for all.. I've been having too much downtimes lately and I couldn't agree more with you. Meanwhile as for your request NEONswift Originally posted by Euclid He might have more but then he might just reply in there |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 82/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by XeomegaI thought DX only released it as a demo cause he didnt manage to finish the entire game... Might be wrong though. having your own thread for your hack is a good thing. i agree updates and pictures are better. So NO DEMO! Plus the advantage of one big thread is you can dip in and out with updates and information when you feel like. And i doubt youd get cained for double posting...cause its your thread. |
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SePH Geldman Level: 33 Posts: 356/459 EXP: 219339 For next: 9840 Since: 06-23-04 From: Québec Caliss de libéraux Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| About that double posting thing, I think there's a rule about it. But anyways I never really understood why it was forbidden by most boards... especially whne you want to update your own thread but cannot since you're the last guy that posted in it. As you can see, I'm mostly in this board for zelda threads.. Just see my posts... I'm not really interested in message boards at all. This board was the second and last board I'm ever going to register to (TEK beeing the first). Anyway, can't wait for those updates, my life rely on them LOL j/k But actually I'd like to see them before I get to sleep tonight... |
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NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 84/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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See surely double posting should just fall under the Spam category where if its annoying its not aloud...Double posting for a update thats actually worth wild wouldnt be against the rules then.As you can see, I'm mostly in this board for zelda threads.. Just see my posts... I'm not really interested in message boards at all.Gotta agree with you there. I only ever post in a non-zelda forum if its someway related to something in my life at the moment or I've got something to show off or got to complement someone on their work. But id pretty much stop at the complement and never post again cause i know itd just be spam id come out with.  As for that update...Ive added a few more things and rounded off the edges a little. I recon this has got to be the first zelda area i ever did where im completed satisfied with it...unless some git comes along and points out a flaw oh yeah ignore the flaw in the bottom right of the screen. Ive yet to decide where the actual entrance will be right there when i connect it to the nearby areas. http://www.angelfire.com/retro/hyrule/pics/forest2.txt |
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