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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 1364/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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ok, this is creepy.... http://science.slashdot.org/science/05/06/27/1923259.shtml?tid=191&tid=14 or heres a quote from there: "U.S. scientists have managed to revive dead dogs to life, by using a technique similar to cryogenation, in which the dogs' blood was drained and replaced by a cold, saline liquid. A couple of hours, their blood was replaced, and an electric shock brought them back to life with no brain damage. The technology will be tested on humans within the next year." ..the article at: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html has the whole way they did it...it is pretty freaky, but apparently the dogs are alive now, with their blood back, and no brain damage, and they are acting normal.. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4483/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 1365/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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heres one other quote from the full news article " Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved. Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts. Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage. " |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 832/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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I just wonder what the longterm issues will be. | |||
Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL Level: 67 Posts: 1801/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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They'll be normal, happy doggies. No bad could come of this, except for maybe a bit of memory loss. While there is no brain damage, yes, the brain will had ceased function for a short time, and short-term memory is just like RAM: Reboot the system, and poof; it's gone. Hehe. I wonder if one of the dogs is named Abby. (edited by Cymoro on 06-29-05 10:44 AM) |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 836/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Another sidenote: Why did I think of the T-Virus when I first read that? I mean, happy undead zombie doggies? |
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Apophis Red Super Koopa Level: 45 Posts: 595/882 EXP: 640255 For next: 19909 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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the dogs were alive before their blood was drained. that means, live humans would have to be killed in the tests | |||
KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 837/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Certanly, there are volunteers for that, just think of the suicid-numbers in Japan and Switzerland. | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4324/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I don't quite know what to make of this. It certainly is neat science, but I'm questioning on how applicable it is on humans. I'm assuming that with humans it will cause some damage. You know, our brain needs a lot more resources than a dogs. And there are various other more glaring physiological difference. Kawaii, I'm 99% sure that suicide victims are a waste of resources for this procedure I think that the proper patients are people who have been in major car crashes and are losing blood like mofos. |
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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 1367/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Apophis no, if you read the news article it says: "The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity. But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock. " |
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blackhole89 LOLSEALS Moderator of ROM hacking EmuNET IRC network admin Head GM of TwilightRO Level: 47 Posts: 765/971 EXP: 739208 For next: 26995 Since: 03-15-04 From: Dresden/Germany Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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I predict a fake. This just can't work out. Three hours without oxygen = brain becomes a mass of worthless bioplasm. Cold liquid as "blood" = 90% of the life-upkeeping processes, including enzymatic activity, don't work. A creepy idea, though. |
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Jarukoth IRRATIONAL EXUBERENCE!!1! Level: 79 Posts: 2867/3194 EXP: 4402011 For next: 177456 Since: 03-17-04 From: New Jersey, U.S.A. Shoes: Yes. Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Sounds pretty cool, except for this one quote: "US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years." Sounds like a trick. Get an axe. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4328/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Think of this as a sort of "short-term" cryogenic process. | |||
Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 1368/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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even though it says years, it also says within a year...so I wonder what it will be, 1 year, or more. I wish they described the process a little better, or showed some good pictures of the dead dog, then of the alive one, or a video even | |||
Tehmonkeyman Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 2/4 EXP: 90 For next: 38 Since: 06-26-05 Since last post: 125 days Last activity: 111 days |
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Wow, I've seen this on like 3 different forums. Sure has made its rounds, eh? | |||
Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 1370/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by blackhole89 one reason why I think its real, is because its from an actual research center, the safar center for resuscitation research, and they are trying to find ways of using suspended animation and what not. http://www.safar.pitt.edu/index.htm |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3399/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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this is just...freaky i do see this being used to give people a 2nd chance in life when it truly wasn't their time to go. however, i'm sure the technology will be abused at some point (like with every new tech) but those will be kept at a minimum. i wonder if it is a good thing that pitt is a private university, i can picture the outcry if this was at a publically funded school... |
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Apophis Red Super Koopa Level: 45 Posts: 596/882 EXP: 640255 For next: 19909 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by DcahrakosOriginally posted by Apophis well, they way I understand the article, the blood was replaced with the cold liquid, making them clinically dead, then placed back into the body three hours later. |
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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61 Posts: 1371/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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well..its really hard to understand when its written like that, but then wouldnt that count as animal cruelty? seeing as how they would have killed them, not knowing for sure if it would work. | |||
paraplayer Snifit Level: 22 Posts: 161/280 EXP: 57271 For next: 1079 Since: 06-06-05 Since last post: 44 days Last activity: 44 days |
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Question: Isn't the blood substitute that they put in the dogs good enough for humans? That would make blood donations obsolete! |
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