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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 6605/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Since you've probably seen most of everything else already, all that's featured here is four screenshots. Four NEW screenshots. Overworld as it is now  Since you're probably wondering, that giant ladder leading up leads to... This road area in Star World. Completion of Star World 1 opens up the ladder, and 2-4 destroy stuff in your way (so that once all are completed, you can access Star Castle). Naturally, star world warps, and thus access to the areas where you do stuff to unlock the castle, are spread throughout the game.  While I don't have screenshots of the star world levels (since as of posting this the only levels that are actually done since the last demo are Luccara Cemetary and Secret 3 - Early), here's Star Road itself which is pretty much just what's shown here and side exits.  Here's the cemetary area, which as you may have guessed from the new ghost house overworld tile typically accompanies ghost house areas. (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-14-05 11:32 PM) |
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Graviteh Level: 31 Posts: 429/500 EXP: 165989 For next: 19374 Since: 03-27-05 From: The Internet Since last post: 42 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| In the last screenshot - Those tombstones look... well, unnatural. Might want to lighten the black bits. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 6607/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Wow! Something man-made, such as a tombstone, that looks unnatural? THIS IS SUCH A HORRIBLE TURN OF EVENTS, ALERT THE MEDIA. Or maybe, just maybe, it doesn't look natural because it isn't. (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-14-05 10:49 PM) |
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Glyph Phoenix Level: 39  Posts: 275/745 EXP: 385876 For next: 18895 Since: 11-07-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The gravestones would look nice if they didn't have text on them. As are most of the things that remain from the old version. As for the rest, you lose. Star world is just a slight edit. Nobody likes a road with nothing on it. The graveyard background is unnatural and the sky is ugly. |
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Rainbow Yoshi Level: 30  Posts: 277/496 EXP: 159486 For next: 6383 Since: 04-08-05 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| The first screenshot looks very nice. 2 and 3 ones no comment. As for the last one the FG doesnt fit with the BG. But the tombstones do look nice with the YI ghosts. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 6609/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Glyph PhoenixThis is confusingly worded. Do you mean that most of the things from the old version would look nice if they didn't have text on them, or that they look nice? And for the record, I have versions that both have text and don't have text, and honestly, the ones that have text look at lot better. Originally posted by Glyph PhoenixGranted, but. Originally posted by Glyph PhoenixYou don't have to enter it to progress, though. It's not a level. It's just... There. Originally posted by Glyph PhoenixYeah, I'm not gonna deny this. They do look pretty crappy. Backgrounds were never my forte. Still, have you seen the only other graveyard tileset out there? That makes this look like the best thing ever. Originally posted by RRNot the YI ghosts; hand-drawn stuff in the style of the YI ghosts. (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-14-05 10:57 PM) (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-14-05 10:58 PM) |
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Glyph Phoenix Level: 39 Posts: 276/745 EXP: 385876 For next: 18895 Since: 11-07-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I meant to say that the gravestones were the only new things that looked nice. And they don't even look that nice because of the awkward fine text printed across them. What passes for an epitaph these days? | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 6610/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, I could take out every other line and shorten the ones that stay. | |||
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Glyph Phoenix Level: 39 Posts: 278/745 EXP: 385876 For next: 18895 Since: 11-07-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Ugh. Still way too much text. Have you ever seen a gravestone with an entire essay on it? | |||
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Shyguy The Original Femme Fatale! Level: 57  Posts: 1144/1998 EXP: 1443008 For next: 42920 Since: 02-14-05 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Just three lines of text can do. One for the name, one for the year died, and thaen one for the rest in peace thing. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 6611/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Alright, alright, I've taken glyph phoenix' advice and replaced the text-style lines with more of an old, eroded texture. Recheck the screenshot. (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-14-05 11:34 PM) |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 1344/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| This hack again (edited by Keikonium on 06-14-05 11:47 PM) (edited by Keikonium on 06-14-05 11:48 PM) |
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Aioria Boss Bass  Yes I will!! ;D  Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 1552/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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| your status bar has to be one of the ugliest ones i have ever seen in a hack... screen 1: i have seen dozens of better overworlds, i am not saying yours is crap, but it is quite far from being good. Well, that was expectable from the blandness of your levels seen on your last demos, you have never made anything outstanding in your levels, and your level design was always pretty poor. Therefore, it is easy to see why your overworld design is so poor too. screen 2: wow how did you make THIS? i mean, you should at least have changed the Star World's palletes, but as i said in my last comment it is expectable a bland and non-original overworld by you judging by your level design 'skills'. I hope you think twice next time before posting such a quasi-SMW overworld picture, coz this only makes my interest on your hack reduces even more. screen 3: don't you have something more than the ground to show us? All i can say is that this looks...good. I think it strongly fits with the 'star world level' theme, so good job here. Still nothing appealing, though. screen 4: that has to be one of the ugliest backgrounds i've ever seen. It is so non-inspired, and if you can't make a good hand-drawn work, just don't do it, and avoid making such horrid gfx (or try to make your drawing skills better). It is also awfully hard to distinguish the FG from the BG here, and the FG is also pretty ugly with those castle gfx. well, as always i am not expecting too much from you, but i think with more experience and time with SMW hacking you'll perhaps be able to make something more decent, so good luck and keep us updated on your work. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 4994/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Not bad, the Star Road idea kicks ass. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 6613/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by KeikoniumThat's kinda the point, though. It's SUPPOSED to be directly related to SMW. I mean, the game takes place in Dinosaur Land so why would it look really different? I don't believe everything needs to be new in order to make a good hack, and even when I do change things around, which is fairly common, I always try to keep it in the same basic style as that of SMW. Originally posted by KeikoniumYou're right about most everything. I'll see if I can rework them to follow what you said. A few things, though - there are some dirt clumps elsewhere. Actually, that area has a lot of them before the star world warp area appears over them. Also, I don't quite follow you when you say there's a clash between tiles that are right next to each other... I haven't heard this complaint before, ever, and when I play the hack with others with ZSNES' netplay feature a few people have even complemented me for not screwing it up by making something ugly despite them being next to each other  Originally posted by KeikoniumAgain, it looks the same because I don't want it to be different. It's fine how it is, and it's not like we've seen it all too much - heck, I can't think of a single other hack that had the overworld changed that had a Star World. Edit: Except Demo World. And it doesn't really compare, seeing as all semblance of a ground was removed in it. Originally posted by Keikonium Yeah, okay. Actually, I was never really satisfied with the look and practically my entire intention in posting this thread was to get feedback on the graveyard design. The koopa and goomba fixtures thing is actually a really nice idea. Thank you, kei. And I probably will use different ground graphics. I think the grassland graphics I'm using now would look good in it if I gave it the right palette, actually. Originally posted by KeikoniumWhere was it too hard? Seriously, this one really gets me  The only even remotely hard part of the hack, as far as I know, was the boss battle in Mysterious Castle 2, which is being redone in the new version. Everything else simply took a little practice for new players to beat. Reason parts of it were rather easy is because, well, again, the original SMW was like that and I want to retain primarily the same feel. It's still fun, which is the entire point. It's never really pitifully easy, so... If you could present a more detailed case, I would gladly listen. Now, as for it being fairly unchanged... Wtf I don't know how to respond to that. It just... Gets me. I don't know what you mean at all.Everything Aioria says: Yeah, well. Frankly, I just don't give a damn what you have to say. (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-15-05 01:12 AM) |
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ExKeeper Bullet Bill Level: 31  Posts: 331/512 EXP: 180084 For next: 5279 Since: 03-05-05 From: Riiight ^ Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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| I like the star world and I like the way the last screen looks, oh, and I like the text for the level names, is that text original? | |||
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ExKay Somebody set up us the bomb! Level: 50 Posts: 759/1114 EXP: 908268 For next: 39049 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hannover, Germany Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Kyouji Craw Overall: It isn't really that bad, but it needs a lot of work. (edited by Ice Man on 06-15-05 09:37 AM) |
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Golden Yoshi Pokey Level: 41  Posts: 466/693 EXP: 445575 For next: 34570 Since: 03-15-04 From: Edison, NJ Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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| Here are my two cents: Screen 1: I don't think the overworld looks too bad. From what I se here it appears to be shaped abstractly as opposed to a simple shape like a square. Good. The palette doesn't look bad either, especially if you're going for a gloomy appearance. I just don't think it will go good with the rest of your levels if they're not so gloomy. Screen 2: Nothing too impressive over here since the Star Road is very similar to that of SMW, other than that, I like that idea you had for opening up the paths on the road. Screen 3: Not really impressed here. The status bar isn't the best though. The item box looks decent, but the 0 for the bonus star counter is really thin, the "TIME" looks really squashed together, moreso the "T", and the "1" in the time counter seems far away from the other two numbers, probably because your "1" graphics are too small. Screen 4: I'm in agreement with everyone else that the BG is horrendous, so they've pretty much said everything that had to be said. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 6614/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| There seem to be a lot of... Conflicting opinions regarding the overworld, so... GoYo: Yeah, it's supposed to be gloomy. Regarding the second one... Yeah. I don't have anything. Regarding the third one... I'm going to make an all-purpose statement here saying that the font I used looks quite a bit better when larger and, um, pixellated. And seeing as GoYo was the only one who gave comments about it that were in any way specific... That's the only thing I can really say, since I already said it's both not long and not a level. EDIT: You know what, screw it. I'm redoing the font... There have been too many complaints. Regarding the fourth one: XD I get the point already, change the ground on the foreground and completely redo the background (edited by Kyouji Craw on 06-15-05 01:22 PM) |
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Shyguy The Original Femme Fatale! Level: 57 Posts: 1149/1998 EXP: 1443008 For next: 42920 Since: 02-14-05 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Also, make Mario.... less happy. The theme of the levels don't equal smiles. |
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. I believe you have the ability to make a great hack, you just need to chnage it enough so it doesn't look like the original as much.
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